I'm probably the only one, but I think SW16 is horribly misguided. It won't rock the gravy boat for Disney--but it doesn't add much for fans
chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 16:27
sure its for profit, but its a good story done well, I'll go see it.
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Moviesnob
Apr 07, 16:34
The Invitation isn't on iTunes or Xfinity. On VOD tomorrow?
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lobogotti
Apr 07, 17:32
yes tomorrow (or midnight tonight EST for iTunes)
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Moviesnob
Apr 07, 17:36
okay, thanks
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lobogotti
Apr 07, 17:57
Yes, releases April 8th through Drafthouse Films.
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:37
Disney is giving the public EXACTLY what they want: more Star Wars movies.
DTshakes
Apr 07, 16:38
More Merchandise Opportunties for Darth Vader!
notfabio
Apr 07, 17:10
this is like saying because we know who won WWII, no WWII movie can ever be dramatically compelling
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slipping jimmy
Apr 07, 16:42
I've seen "Schindler's List." But the genocide of the Jewish people doesn't compare to some Bothans dying to get Death Star plans.
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 16:46
ok, that went over even my head
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Moviesnob
Apr 07, 16:47
Scratch it, reverse it. Bothans dying doesn't compare to millions of Jews getting murdered. "Rogue One" is no "Schindler's List." Bad comp.
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 16:49
How is it that when the Holocaust is mentioned it's only the jews getting murdered that gets a mention. How about the millions of Russians..
hyperzeitgeist
Apr 08, 02:06
well, the Bothans actually stole the plans for the 2nd Death Star, and his point was that its about the journey, not the destination
Moviesnob
Apr 07, 16:52
Swords (at least, the laser-y kind), martial arts, Eastern folklore, etc. have always been a part of SW's DNA. Swordsmen didn't surprise me.
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 16:54
youre still missing the point. Most people like a bigger universe. Its fine if you don't, but most people do.
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Moviesnob
Apr 07, 16:57
I do--in ways true to the series. Marvel can spin-off w/ an endless host of potential protagonists. SW can't, because of ONE reason:
chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:01
thats just your opinion though. Its fine, but I dont share it. I've been a a fan of the games and Clone Wars and now Rebels. I enjoy it.
Moviesnob
Apr 07, 17:04
I've played the games, and watched ALL of "The Clone Wars" (including season 6), and "Rebels." But if the Episodes go, they ALL go.
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:09
Rebels isn't really about the Skywalkers. Both are set around the same time. How can you say Rebels is okay, but Rogue One isn't?
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Antibody
Apr 07, 17:17
That's fair. I was invested before "Episode VII." After, I realized Episodes were all we needed. And technically, Anakin/Vader are in both.
chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:29
you lose all credibility with the "true fan" crap. it's still your opinion what's important and what isn't. You don't define "fan" for anyon
JDolphin
Apr 07, 19:48
The masses do it for us, don't they? I'm just following suit. Don't we all follow mass distributed "dictionaries" for our definitions?
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 08, 10:21
"But that's just, like, your opinion, man." And besides, after watching and playing all those--how much did they really add to the story?
chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:13
"Watch it dude, there's a beverage here!" Here's my advice, don't be worried until theres actually a reason to be worried.
Moviesnob
Apr 07, 17:19
Thinking the glass is half empty makes sure you don't get caught with an empty glass. Disney should've known better before they cause damage
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:46
Maybe you don't underatand
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Moviesnob
Apr 07, 23:37
Both glass half full and glass half empty know it can be empty. The point is seeing the positive upside or not
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Moviesnob
Apr 07, 23:38
We knew the Avengers would prevail over Loki, Indiana Jones would win and Kirk would defeat Khan too. Still were great films to watch.
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mrbeankc
Apr 07, 18:11
We didn't know the repercussions of defeating Loki (& STILL don't in full). How'd you know Indy would win...?? And yeah, maybe the 2nd time!
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 18:15
You honestly thought Indiana Jones might not win?
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mrbeankc
Apr 07, 18:50
Nothing says Hollywood ending like victory for the Nazis
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RogerMore
Apr 07, 19:02
He could've died in the big finale--and then later discovered by American military, and the Ark could've still ended up in American hands.
chosenone2oo5
Apr 08, 10:23
so since we know Brando is the Godfather in The Godfather, we dont need to see Deniro become him in The Godfather 2
islander
Apr 07, 16:42
That story was compelling. But I really don't need to know how Rebels got Death Star plans, or how Han Solo became a smuggler.
chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 16:47
but how do you know this story wont be compelling? im willing to give it a try and if it winds up disappointing me, oh well my love of the
islander
Apr 07, 16:49
It will diminish mine. Instead of wondering "Wow, I wonder what terrible fate befell those poor Bothans..." it'll be "Oh right, I know that"
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 16:52
+1 I don't see how the nostalgic older crowd are going to find their enthusiasm for the spin-offs in the long run.
RickandMorty
Apr 07, 17:05
EXACTLY thank you! One or two Star Wars Story's are not all I'm concerned about: what will this excess look like 10 years from now?
chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:08
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RickandMorty
Apr 07, 17:18
Story quality's what I'm concerned with. Marvel's been incredibly lucky. Realistically Star Wars could look like the DCEU if they keep it up
chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:32
the easiest way to stop studios from making these movies is to not pay to see them
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slipping jimmy
Apr 07, 17:10
Then don't pay to see "A Star Wars Story," but save it to see "Episode VIII." Win-win for everyone, in my honest opinion.
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:14
So very true - I haven't paid to see a single Marvel movie ever, can't remember the last reboot, and I snuck into STAR7
RickandMorty
Apr 07, 17:16
Though I don't agree with ignoring Marvel, & the last reboot was Batman's in "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice," I admire you greatly sir!
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:34
LucasFilms has always Expanded the Universe. Countless books, videogames and animated series Clone Wars, The Clone Wars, Rebels
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Antibody
Apr 07, 16:44
But only the NEW stuff applies. They wiped the slate clean, only to messy it up again with "Rogue One," "Rebels," and the other excess.
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 16:51
I'm saying the idea of an Expanded Universe didn't originate with Disney.
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Antibody
Apr 07, 16:53
And I'm saying running a merchandise mill is one thing--but this is so pervasive and permeating, it'll eventually harm the Episodes.
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 16:55
spoilers: most of what Lucas did with the original trilogy and the prequels was driven by merchandising, not storytelling
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slipping jimmy
Apr 07, 17:00
And the original trilogy stood the test of time regardless: because there's a right way, and a wrong way to go about it. This is excessive.
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:02
And the original trilogy stood the test of time regardless: because there's a right way, and a wrong way to go about it. This is excessive.
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:02
if the Star Wars Holiday Special didn't harm the Episodes, then nothing will. ;)
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Antibody
Apr 07, 17:12
It never was canon, anyways.
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:14
I tthink Star Wars fans love the in-between stories...Clone Wars took place b/w Eps 2 and 3...Star Wars Rebels takes place b/w Eps 3 & 4...
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tealfan
Apr 07, 17:12
plus this trailer plays like a wartime, secret operation movie...like Valkyrie or (as Moviesnob mentioned) The Dirty Dozen...
tealfan
Apr 07, 17:14
They were only used to make kids pay to go see the Episodes...! And now that they understand the Rebel Alliance, can we cancel "Rebels" now?
chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:17
tell that to all the adults who love the series...myself included :)
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tealfan
Apr 07, 17:20
I like Rebels (a lot acutally) but its only going to be a three season thing. They'll be a new one for the new time period
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Moviesnob
Apr 07, 17:21
+1 replace it w/ "Star Wars: Resistance." Figured that was coming anyways. After "Rogue One" is over, there's no necessity for the synergy.
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:36
"secret operation to steal the Death Star plans" may not look impressive on paper to some, but it's all in the execution
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tealfan
Apr 07, 17:21
speaking of Valkyire, I dare Gareth to give this the same ending as that movie...well, except they accomplish their mission first :)
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tealfan
Apr 07, 17:25
Don't we assume there's a "300"-esque ending where--"oh good, the plans are safe...it's okay if we die now as martyrs for the cause."
chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:39
[EXT. SPACE -- NIGHT -- Bothan ship EXPLODES, Imperial Super Star Destroyer HUMS away as "Firefly" violins creep into the silence. FADE OUT]
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 07, 17:40
you're the only assuming that. Try thinking about the best case scenario instead and be happy for the next 8 months
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JDolphin
Apr 07, 19:31
I loved it. Looks amazing! I want more Star Wars and I enjoy the new take on it.
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NotaTroll
Apr 07, 18:34
Said who? Force Awakens sucked even though it made a ton of money. SW16 looks gritty and realistic and I wish all SW movies the same.
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AgentEvil
Apr 07, 18:45
Well that explains your portfolio size.
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 08, 10:25
I think people have wanted origin stories for so many of these characters for a long time. Expanded universe gave some in books, but people
Dorfman
Apr 08, 07:19
Why not the small screen, then? Why does it have to be the big screen? This is as auxiliary as television as a whole.
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 08, 10:24
Money
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JDolphin
Apr 08, 14:24
Which, if rocking the creative integrity of the entire franchise to get more money, could result in the Episodes then making LESS MONEY.
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chosenone2oo5
Apr 08, 22:21
