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so Sunday afternoon is probably not the best time to chat about this, but wanted to point out...

Posted by: lobogotti on Aug 14, 11:06

back in June I was a huge critic of the lame duck May we had. while that was true, and June was down over 15%, July 2016 was the best July of all time:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/monthly/?view=releasedate&chart=bymonth&month=7&view=releasedate

I was looking over YTD numbers today and noticed we're still having a great year overall:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/?view2=ytdcompare&view=releasedate&p=.htm

5.1% up over 2015, nearly 12% up from 2014 and there's still a ton of big hitters to come. that's excellent.

looking at average ticket prices, in 2015 at $8.43 per ticket average, there were 851.24M tickets sold.

in 2016 at $8.66 per ticket average, there have been 871.24M tickets sold. an impressive 20M more (2.3% inc). thats a big WOW.

so while there were a ton of movies that didn't hit as expected, there were many that over-delivered or are continuing to do so. any increase in ticket sales are welcomed.

in hindsight, a lot to be said about familiar properties and original platforms. while many of us (including myself) were and keep saying "bring on the original films", would anyone argue that Pets 2, Zootopia 2, Central Intelligence 2, Bad Moms 2, Lights Out 2, The Shallows 2, Sausage Party 2, Mike & Dave 2 shouldn't be made from a financial perspective? I might be able on one or two of those to convince a studio to leave well enough alone, take the money and run, but they all mostly have to have sequels created on respectable budgets... for profit opportunity.

or that familiar properties like:
Angry Birds 2, Jungle Book 2, Deadpool 2, Suicide Squad 2 shouldn't be made for the same reasons?

or more Dory, Captain, Batman, Conjuring, Now You See Me, Cloverfield, Ride Along, Barbershop properties shouldn't get future projects?

or that Me Before You and Miracles from Heaven profits should be re-invested into simialr properties. not necessarily sequels, but movies very similar in nature, with the same audiences in mind?

so I suppose my point is, Snobs argument about franchise films or the investments into developing hits into franchise film is pretty damn bulletproof.

I want as many original films as the studios can throw out, but as soon as their good it makes zero sense not to develop a sequel, which then crowds the release dates, which also gives studios less time/resources to develop those original films we talk about.

I think the key is knowing when to hang it up. if you don't take world-wide gross into consideration I think the franchises like Bourne, Trek, X-Men, Turtles would be better left alone. but when you consider WW money and how you can reboot them with hot new talent and lower budgets, hard to imagine all those franchises will show up again within the next 5-10 years.

so Sunday afternoon is probably not the best time to chat about this, but wanted to point out... lobogotti Aug 14, 11:06

Some of those should be left alone... TwoMisfits Aug 14, 11:34

Methinks the lobo/moviesnob studio would be in business a lot longer than the misfits studio. Moviesnob Aug 14, 11:44

Nah - Suicide Squad cost $325M (if you believe it was only $175M to produce)... TwoMisfits Aug 14, 11:49

And Batman v Superman cost $400M (with advertising costs included) TwoMisfits Aug 14, 11:54

if you include all costs, its more, but it'll have total revenue (after splits) of over a billion {nm} Moviesnob Aug 14, 12:11

Bad Moms, as much as it's profitable, it wasn't as strong a comedy as many expected or hoped. Trying to make a sequel would be foolish. diamondman56 Aug 14, 11:55

That's my point above - some successful movies have nowhere to go as sequels... TwoMisfits Aug 14, 11:58

Yep... We need a good plan, Stan :-) {nm} jmt-nl Aug 14, 12:03

They don't have to be successful, they just have to be successful enough. eg Neighbors 2, Hangover 3, Night at the Museum 3, Anchorman 2,etc {nm} RogerMore Aug 14, 12:05

+1 {nm} chosenone2oo5 Aug 14, 12:14

will be interesting to see what STX does with that profit. {nm} lobogotti Aug 14, 15:23