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neither of those had 50+ years of goodwill built up by the annual TV showing. that's good for building in an audience but it also creates a

Posted by: slipping jimmy (a.k.a mickpix) on Nov 07, 08:32 in response to stormgod's post You're right, it's not a perfect system. I got burned bad...

nostalgic bond to the original that can turn off a lot of fans if it feels like a shameless cash grab

I'm shorting The Grinch on my theory that only bad movies don't have an RT score three days before release. Call me crazy! {nm} stormgod Nov 06, 17:05

RT scores for the last 4 Illumination pics range from 56-74%, the lowest grosser from this bunch took $270m - but yep NUTFR proves yr point. {nm} Qix Nov 06, 23:31

First two RT reviews have posted and neither are encouraging. Hope there's good ones around the corner. {nm} RollingThunder Nov 07, 08:05

I'm still favoring a leggy run over a big OW. Social media metrics appear to be in the realm of Sing. Awaiting BO Forecast to confirm. {nm} RollingThunder Nov 07, 04:54

i would not expect the WOM on Grinch (from the trailers i've watched) to be remotely Sing-like {nm} slipping jimmy Nov 07, 07:10

I think it looks great, just don't see it blowing the doors open out of the gate. That said, a huge OW won't surprise me, it's Illumination {nm} RollingThunder Nov 07, 07:25

It could be bad, but still make money. It could be bad, make money, but not enough for HSX estimates. It could be good, go gangbusters and ndmaster Nov 07, 07:47

You're right, it's not a perfect system. I got burned bad on The Meg & Venom. {nm} stormgod Nov 07, 08:10

neither of those had 50+ years of goodwill built up by the annual TV showing. that's good for building in an audience but it also creates a slipping jimmy Nov 07, 08:32

allow we to suggest that wom and rt scores dont always line up. good wom lines up more often with cinemascore and other exit polls {nm} Moviesnob Nov 07, 08:20

Have trouble understanding how many times they can sell the same movie, but my shorts have run bad lately, so.... {nm} WallyWabash03 Nov 07, 09:26





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