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It's not reasoning, it's rationalizing based upon learned beliefs. No one is born hating homosexuality any more than they are born hating

Posted by: BSmurf on Feb 08, 11:36 in response to RogerMore's post It's not hate - its bewilderment at how your reasoning...

people of a differnt color.

We choose to believe what we believe, and belief systems (opinions, really), are among the most ingrained tenets that possess and the most difficult to change because they define who we are.

If we were to question our most strongly held beliefs as wrong or incorrect, that is a direct reflection of ourselves as being wrong or incorrect, and no one wants to be seen that way.

This is why people scream and shout the loudest about the beliefs they hold most dearly, even at the expense of being seen as foolish, ignorant, or even dangerous. See: Westboro Baptist Church.

Few people possess the desire or interest in questioning their own core beliefs (opinions), even when presented with overwhelming evidence to the contrary, especially if they are not directly affected by the outcome of changing their beliefs (e.g. I'm not gay and I don't know anyone who is, so why should I change my opinion of them, even though having my negative opinion of them gives me no benefit whatsoever?)

So, there is my question to anyone who is even remotely uncomfortable with the fact that homosexuals exist: What do you personally gain by having a negative opinion of them? How do YOU benefit from this outlook?

Now That The Stars Have Had Their Say On The Important Issues, It's Our Turn wroberson Feb 07, 03:16

If Homosexuality was such a great Sin as you suggest, it would have been in The Ten Commandments. RotoHockeyYTD2013 Feb 07, 14:31

Not sure who the "our" is but... Buy BONDS 20 Feb 07, 20:27

We're just debating here, right so don't hate on me for my views ... elchan Feb 07, 21:32

Write the book - but stop linking Homosexuality with Pedophilia. Common mistake. RotoHockeyYTD2013 Feb 07, 22:35

Drones are fun, as long as they are not in the hands of the government. {nm} elchan Feb 08, 08:23

So you're only beneficial to society if you biologically have kids?!?!?!? {nm} JDolphin Feb 08, 00:11

Actually right now I would think NOT having kids would be more beneficial to society... {nm} slappydavid Feb 08, 05:45

Almost all "First World" nations are already below the 2.1 per couple birth rate necessary just to maintain population. DTravel Feb 08, 07:38

Sorry, but humans beings are unique to this universe. So far we have not found other intelligent beings, other than here on earth. elchan Feb 08, 08:19

You have got to be kidding me... {nm} slappydavid Feb 08, 08:33

Nope not kidding. Do you dispute that human beings are a wonderous creation of Mother Earth? elchan Feb 08, 09:18

I would but this isn't the place for that discussion. {nm} DTravel Feb 08, 12:11

I'm not against you remain in your own subculture, as long as you don't try to convince children, and society that yours is benefical views {nm} JDolphin Feb 08, 00:15

I'm not try to convince anyone of anything though. The views are universal. It's the other side that has tried to reverse the psychology. elchan Feb 08, 08:40

Your views are not universal. There is growing scientifc evidence that homosexuality is genetically coded. {nm} Antibody Feb 08, 11:02

See my answer to BSmurf below. However, some of us are genetically coded to for many behaviours ... elchan Feb 08, 12:15

That is based on the fraudulent research of Alfred Kinsey, who used to pay parents to rape their children and report back to him accountant_4_Jesus Feb 08, 15:21

I don't think so. Kinsey's research was on behaviour, not genetics, and in any case there has been plenty of separate research into this. {nm} RogerMore Feb 08, 15:54

I guess all the animal species that partake in homo or bisexuality are not natural, either? Your argument is false as it is based on BSmurf Feb 08, 11:23

That's my point. But increasingly, the subculture wants to break into mainstream, in order to self-justify. elchan Feb 08, 11:57

Extending your point re: women. So, gays and women are OK as long as they are in their place? They can only exist when others determine BSmurf Feb 08, 12:59

Nope, you misunderstand me. Women can be any place they want. elchan Feb 08, 13:28

I'm hesitant to post in a thread started by an obvious troll, but this is a disappointing post. {nm} RogerMore Feb 08, 06:13

Sorry Roger, but don't hate on me for my views. Not trying to instil hatred of anyone. {nm} elchan Feb 08, 08:22

It's not hate - its bewilderment at how your reasoning can be so bad. {nm} RogerMore Feb 08, 09:14

It's not reasoning, it's rationalizing based upon learned beliefs. No one is born hating homosexuality any more than they are born hating BSmurf Feb 08, 11:36

A large majority of us don't hate gays. We simply don't want society to be twisted into thinking that it's normal behaviour. elchan Feb 08, 12:40

You didn't answer the question: How does you opinion of gays benefit YOU? Clearly you do not gain peace of mind from it, so what is it? {nm} BSmurf Feb 08, 12:49

Didn't think there was a need to answer. Though it was rhetorical, but having a good belief system, whatever it may be, benefits me. elchan Feb 08, 13:13

But how do you know your belief system is "good"? Because it is reinforced by those you surround yourself with? The Taliban think their BSmurf Feb 08, 17:20

Well, I have friends that are openly gay, it doesn't bother me. As I said, I don't hate people who choose to be gay. elchan Feb 08, 18:42

What do your gay friends think of your theories? {nm} RogerMore Feb 08, 19:30

Of course they would disagree. Most of them are discreet. Just like normal couples are. elchan Feb 08, 20:25

It also means your ideas aren't tested by the very people most likely to call you out on this Barbra Streisand {nm} RogerMore Feb 08, 21:41





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