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both sides canlie sure. but id rather having a lying dem than a lying repub. (well id really rather have an honest nice guy but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ {nm}

Posted by: islander (a.k.a del_CHG_islander2) on Apr 04, 05:55 in response to TJNFL1's post Barack Obama, through former NSA Susan Rice ordered Trump...

Barack Obama, through former NSA Susan Rice ordered Trump surveillance. TJNFL1 Apr 03, 16:50

The article doesn't say that. {nm} Antibody Apr 03, 16:55

Former Obama deputy secretary of defense said, "get as much intelligence as you can, before President Obama leaves the administration.” TJNFL1 Apr 03, 17:36

Again, nothing in that quote about Obama ordering surveillance of Trump. Or ordering surveillance of ANYONE. {nm} DTravel Apr 03, 17:49

Article states, "electronic surveillance of candidate and President-elect Trump" TJNFL1 Apr 03, 18:08

Nothing saying Obama ordered it and the quotes you are posting are saying those names came up while surveilling OTHER people. DTravel Apr 03, 20:40

Private citizens are protected under law from public disclosure. TJNFL1 Apr 04, 10:02

Infowars is not a credible source. {nm} Antibody Apr 04, 10:08

According to former U.S. Attorney Joseph diGenova, and former National Security Council senior director Michael Doran,..... TJNFL1 Apr 04, 11:04

NY: Susan Rice and the Latest Bogus Attempt to Justify Trump's Wiretapping Tweet Antibody Apr 04, 11:19

"If Susan Rice was abusing this process, (unmasking), she did a terrible job of covering it up." {nm} TJNFL1 Apr 04, 11:47

Meaning it's not an abuse of the process since it's right out in the open as a normal part of the protocol. {nm} Antibody Apr 04, 11:49

or, she abused the unmasking process, Obama covered with a policy change, and she lied out of fear of prosecution. {nm} TJNFL1 Apr 04, 12:02

That's a lot of "if's". More than likely she was just doing her normal job she was hired to do. {nm} BSmurf Apr 04, 17:21

At least Bill Clinton won't interfere with any more secret airport meetings with Attorney General Loretta Lynch. {nm} TJNFL1 Apr 04, 20:54

Surveillance of Russians diplomats is a normal part of Intelligence gathering. The intelligence needed to be saved before Antibody Apr 03, 17:43

Where would the federal intelligence information go after Obama? Would it not stay within the various agencies? {nm} TJNFL1 Apr 03, 17:53

I have no idea what you're asking. {nm} Antibody Apr 03, 17:56

Sorry, responding to your,"intelligence needed to be saved before" statement. Didn't understand the "need" or "before". {nm} TJNFL1 Apr 03, 18:11

Simple. Trump isn't going to investigate Russia's meddling into the election. {nm} Antibody Apr 03, 20:42

3 FBI probes and 5 Congressional investigations taking place. TJNFL1 Apr 03, 21:02

NOW they are (public), and Susan Rice literally did her actual job and preserved intelligence information that might have implicated the new BSmurf Apr 04, 08:15

Might imply she violated someone's civil liberties instead. {nm} TJNFL1 Apr 04, 13:38

FBI and Congress are not the Trump administration. {nm} Antibody Apr 04, 10:03

Your asking Trump to do the job of the President, the FBI, and the Congress? {nm} TJNFL1 Apr 04, 10:10

Again, Trump did not order the investigation of links between Russia and his campaign. {nm} Antibody Apr 04, 10:16

If there is no collusion, why would he order an investigation? {nm} TJNFL1 Apr 04, 11:12

If there's collusion, then why would he order an investibation. {nm} Antibody Apr 04, 11:28

Your answering your own question. Either way, why would Trump ask for an investigation? That's someone elses job. {nm} TJNFL1 Apr 04, 11:52

Russian meddling in the U.S. election is a huge national security issue that should concern the President. Antibody Apr 04, 12:07

Being concerned and doing someone elses job are two different things. Example...... TJNFL1 Apr 04, 12:23

Trump is the "moderator" in your analogy. It IS his job to issue executive orders to direct government agencies. {nm} Antibody Apr 04, 12:40

Not suggesting that he can't direct, but that the FBI & Congress don't need permission to do their jobs. {nm} TJNFL1 Apr 04, 12:48

both sides canlie sure. but id rather having a lying dem than a lying repub. (well id really rather have an honest nice guy but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ islander Apr 04, 05:55

Agree that both lie, and that an honest nice (person) is preferred. {nm} TJNFL1 Apr 04, 11:18





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