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Looking at white people on the whole isn't very scientific either. The outcome of university enrolment policies such as legacy admissions,

Posted by: RogerMore on Mar 13, 14:09 in response to PhoneHome's post Counting white guys wearing salmon shorts not very...

sports scholarships for rowing, lacrosse and water polo, and more subjective elements like personal ratings is to favour white - or more specifically, white applicants from well-off families, and that applicants of all races from low-income families are more likely to be shut out.

To give some stats - at Harvard, legacy students make up about 14% of total admissions, but 22% of admissions for white students.Ā  34% of legacy applicants are accepted, compared with ~7% of non-legacy applicants. 88% of legacy students come from families making $125K+ a year (which make up about 20% of the general population).

65% of student athletes at Ivy League colleges are white, so they're over-represented compared with the general population. About 80% of applicants are accepted, and at Harvard nearly half of student athletes come from families making $250K per year compared with about a third for the entire class (and in the top 5% of the general population). Harvard student athletes come from wealthier backgrounds than the average Harvard student.

The paths that get a student into an elite college like Harvard that aren't based on straight academic merit (affirmative action aside) favour white students from well-off families.

BF: how affirmative action in college admissions for white rich kids works (spoiler: it's called "college admissions") professor zovek Mar 13, 11:13

Counting white guys wearing salmon shorts not very scientific. Actually whites and Hispanics are underrepresented. Blacks and Asians over. PhoneHome Mar 13, 12:44

Looking at white people on the whole isn't very scientific either. The outcome of university enrolment policies such as legacy admissions, RogerMore Mar 13, 14:09

This is data from the 2010 census. Also, doesn't differentiate between the top 50 universities, and all the community colleges. {nm} Antibody Mar 13, 14:30

Ok, let's go with 2017 students at Ivy League schools only. 44% white, 20% Asian, 12% Latino, 9% Black, 4% Mixed Race. Source Inside. PhoneHome Mar 13, 19:42

But again off point. Fifty people broke the law in an egregious manner under the illusion that they're helping their child, PhoneHome Mar 13, 19:54

It's off point to focus on 50 individuals who broke the rules, while ignoring how those rules give preferential access to RogerMore Mar 14, 07:20

Exactly! This was a disgusting, incomprehensible abuse of their wealth! We are on the same page. {nm} PhoneHome Mar 14, 09:00

And yes, the system is clearly broken. It should be more merit based, and not about privilege. But this group was falsifying merit. {nm} PhoneHome Mar 14, 09:39

The point has completely to do with the privilege that white people have enjoyed in this country just because of the color of their skin. {nm} Antibody Mar 14, 08:11

This was about several immoral crooks abusing their wealth. About some rich people being rich, not white people being white. PhoneHome Mar 14, 09:30

>90% of these crooks are white. What's racist is the denial of where the majority of wealth is concentrated and how the systems Antibody Mar 14, 09:59

My issue is the incessant attempts at making racial issues out of non-racial situations. PhoneHome Mar 14, 12:17

But that's not the point. These perpetrators, regardless of race abandoned morals because their ego and pride became more important than PhoneHome Mar 13, 13:13

All Cheaters Matter {nm} professor zovek Mar 13, 13:29

if you are trying to be realistic and make a point or story about this then you must look at the REJECTION demographics chipshot Mar 14, 10:37

It's in the article Antibody Mar 14, 10:59

i don't read anywhere that of "of the applicants, 30% were Black and we only admitted 9%.... {nm} chipshot Mar 14, 11:04

In their minds, anecdotal evidence and one person's opinions or musings trumps data and facts. {nm} PhoneHome Mar 14, 16:18





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