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"I dread government in the name of science. That is how tyrannies come in. If we are to be mothered, mother must know best. This means they

Posted by: Nobody (a.k.a psisson) on Apr 20, 09:03 in response to tentin quarentino's post NYT: the year ahead in pandemic America (spoiler:...

must increasingly rely on the advice of scientists, till in the end the politicians proper become merely the scientists' puppets. Let scientists tell us about sciences. But government involves questions about the good for man, and justice, and what things are worth having at what price..."Ā 

-- C. S. Lewis

NYT: the year ahead in pandemic America (spoiler: nothing really approaches "normal" until there is a vaccine, i.e., 2022) tentin quarentino Apr 19, 15:14

"I dread government in the name of science. That is how tyrannies come in. If we are to be mothered, mother must know best. This means they Nobody Apr 20, 09:03

herd immunity starts with you, tough guy tentin quarentino Apr 20, 10:07

It is irrational to crash an economy and impose what is effectively a police state in order to deal with an illness with a case-fatality Nobody Apr 20, 10:28

your post is factually inaccurate {nm} islndr Apr 20, 10:59

the fatality rate would be exponentially higher if the extreme social distancing measures weren't imposed, dum dum {nm} tentin quarentino Apr 20, 11:03

That is not a given. We have no idea how many are truly infected, so the current mortality rate ls likely much lower than currently {nm} Nobody Apr 20, 11:16

You are "forgetting" the additional casualties from hospitals being overloaded and medical workers dieing. {nm} DTravel Apr 20, 11:20

We are far more prepared now. Its a risk but we cannot lock down forever. Waiting for a vaccine is futile. No coronavirus Nobody Apr 20, 11:28

too late. the time for these calculations was in January, which plenty of other countries made the right call on. they're reopening tentin quarentino Apr 20, 11:37

The states are responsible for their people. Were they prepared? Blame Trump all you like but that is the reality. {nm} Nobody Apr 20, 11:43

The states are not responsible. The Federal Government is the structure for the country's national emergencies. The Feds should lead and Catzan Apr 20, 15:22

i think everyone remembers FDR's speech on Dec. 8, 1941 telling the states that they were all on their own against the Axis {nm} tentin quarentino Apr 20, 15:32

You are saying that is is acceptable for you to infect or potentially murder me in the pursuit of improving the economy? {nm} albrown Apr 20, 11:08

it also doesn't work economically. Sweden is going with the herd immunity strategy and their economy is still in the ****ter like everyone tentin quarentino Apr 20, 11:15

"The conomy" is us. Our livelihoods, our wealth (however limited), our retirement income, everything we work so hard for. Some will get Nobody Apr 20, 11:19

If you aren't alive then livelihoods and wealth don't matter at least to you. The economy is already too damaged for a rapid recovery, albrown Apr 20, 11:34

My own personal situation? There are 20 million unemployed with many more to come. People in their prime earning years may never financially Nobody Apr 20, 11:42

I don't assume that we are all gonna die, I do assume that you can't choose who will get it and who will recover if they do. albrown Apr 20, 11:58

Many never recovered from the sub-prime mortgage implosion. {nm} DTravel Apr 20, 13:53

LIFE BOARD {nm} Moviesnob Apr 20, 11:49

MAKE IT STOP {nm} Moviesnob Apr 20, 11:49

Nothing stops {nm} Warden Norton Apr 20, 11:55

WAAAAA! Stop violating me with your differing opinions! WAAAA! {nm} Nobody Apr 20, 11:56

Pandemic management tips from disaffected clingers -- always a treat {nm} SenJohnBlutarsky Apr 21, 14:39





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