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Newbies League tribality Sep 14, 05:30

Was it me or was it just a nice, quietly profitable day on HSX. Not a lot of action or flux. Is this what i can expect on Sunday's... HuskyMiller Sep 13, 20:40

Typically, the fall time is a bit slower market & movie wise...a little tougher to trade... Flash Sep 14, 08:05

Does anyone ever redeem their H$? {nm} damenchipguy Sep 12, 20:03

I don't. Too expensive. {nm} Carlion Sep 13, 06:23

I tried once. My credit card company wouldn't accept the transfer. Their claim was ridiculous. SocioEvo Sep 13, 08:01

I stepped right into those zingers, has anybody ever got the coffee mug, t-shirt ect... {nm} damenchipguy Sep 13, 12:38

I got a nice t-shirt, and HSX included 3 cool pens :) {nm} Chefbobcat Sep 13, 17:43

The pens do look cool. I'll give you that. Do they write well? {nm} Carlion Sep 13, 18:18

I'd say the pens are average, except for the logo, and Chefbobcat Sep 13, 19:06

Mine wasn't meant to zing. I was serious, in that I hate the idea of working that hard for my fake money only to blow a big piece of it on Carlion Sep 13, 18:05

I was serious too. SocioEvo Sep 13, 18:58

the lazer point was cool... RazorHawk Sep 13, 20:55

not really thedudeman2222 Sep 13, 10:01

New idea? Make a mint ONLY with shorts leegend Sep 11, 03:02

The Ampersand has an article on the Short Em All strategy. Interesting read. But in part 2 the writer goes on to say it may not be as Carlion Sep 11, 04:59

i have toyed with the idea of pitching a short only fund to Dmac {nm} ndmaster Sep 11, 11:43

I think it's been pitched before and rejected. But that shouldn't stop you from pitching it yourself. {nm} RogerMore Sep 11, 14:37

I'd like to see that. I'd like to see funds with creative trading strategies, rather than just theme funds. {nm} Carlion Sep 11, 18:03

Theme fund managers have their strategies - they're just less obvious and they depend on the manager's own trading style {nm} RogerMore Sep 12, 05:42

Sure, everyone has their strategy. I'm just saying I'd like to see a fund where the theme "is" the strategy. Carlion Sep 12, 06:34

I thought about trying to short only overpriced stars, but it's too limited {nm} leegend Sep 12, 14:44

I'm thinking more like fund speed profits than winning a YTD race {nm} leegend Sep 11, 15:17

You can certainly make money by shorting stocks, but you didn't say 'what' you were shorting? Flash Sep 11, 08:00

Lets just say that a lot of IPO's drift down, to termially penny stocks, or very low, until real activity such as hiring a Director, Casting StarBondFund Sep 11, 10:10

Oh, I agree about IPO's drifting down Flash Sep 12, 10:26

I'd short anything, but preference is overpriced stars leegend Sep 11, 15:16

In response to your IM, you're missing out then =) Carlion Sep 12, 06:39

I haven't played the IPOs leegend Sep 12, 14:47

Why? Wouldnt you rather make my by shorting stuff AND money by longing stuff? RazorHawk Sep 11, 17:01

Sure, but that's not quite the same challenge... leegend Sep 12, 03:13

Only shorts feels like playing the no pass line in craps, I always want to a movie to exceed expectations, shorting months early; snore damenchipguy Sep 12, 12:06

But on the no pass, sometimes they throw a 12.......there is no hard and fast rule for ANYTHING here....just generalities.... StarBondFund Sep 12, 12:15

True I dont have the port to understand the luxury/burden of a port of that size but working on it everyday;TY learn alot from fund managers {nm} damenchipguy Sep 12, 16:54

I’m trying to learn how to play the new openers... HuskyMiller Sep 10, 23:39

i'm fairly new to this game as well but lemme give u my opinion and you can take it for what its worth. kensanity Sep 11, 00:49

but then again you have a $H50 mil dollar port so I dont know what you need my info for lol. How the hell you get that much w/o openers? {nm} kensanity Sep 11, 01:02

It took me almost two and a half years to make the first 20 of my 50 million so I can use all the help I can get. HuskyMiller Sep 11, 03:33

if 4 day is like labor day, then the multiplier is 2.2 dont ask me why {nm} kensanity Sep 11, 04:43

Here's why the numbers vary. SocioEvo Sep 11, 06:32

If you really believe in your position, you can buy/short funds that reflect your openers, too {nm} Chefbobcat Sep 11, 03:04

Thebest advice I was given is, "I dont know $hit" look at gutchecks and follow HSXtips on twitter follow trend analysis damenchipguy Sep 11, 14:48

East coast trading killing me, no limit orders on sells... john Sep 09, 11:35

there are limit orders RazorHawk Sep 09, 13:01

Stop loss shouldn't be possible. The order will execute right away because the current price is better than 82. {nm} Antibody Sep 09, 13:04

why shouldn't stop loss be possible? i've used it in the "real stock market" {nm} john Sep 09, 16:06

You can only use limit orders to EARN profits, NOT to prevent you from losing money...the reason being Flash Sep 10, 07:31

you guys make some good points. after i posted that "real market" thing, i thought "what if they had trading btwn 6am and 1pm-that'd suck" {nm} john Sep 10, 11:52

Well, usually there are good reasons they do or don't offer a feature...we just don't always know the reasons... {nm} Flash Sep 10, 20:26

Get up earlier, if you want to trade early. Could it be said that West Coast has easier, quicker access to news? {nm} damenchipguy Sep 09, 13:44

$H1.5 million. WHere should i put it kensanity Sep 09, 08:50

I'd hold onto it as cash and keep it ready to play some news. {nm} Carlion Sep 09, 10:17

buy the IPO take profit tomarrow, then do it again {nm} damenchipguy Sep 09, 13:18

Buy max Star Bonds Fund that IPOs tomorrow. 200k investment for 800k turn around. DO IT! SocioEvo Sep 09, 15:29

Star Bonds Fund? WHere can i find that? also i notice a lot of starbonds readjusting. How do i decide how to "play" them? kensanity Sep 09, 18:22

Look at my post a few below. and BONDS IPOs tomorrow morning. {nm} SocioEvo Sep 09, 18:38

linked.. i think... SocioEvo Sep 09, 18:40

thanks my man. Looking forward to seeing that mutual fund. {nm} kensanity Sep 09, 19:55

any word on that BONDS fund you have? supposed to open today right? {nm} kensanity Sep 10, 04:56

It IPOd this morning. I bought max :-D {nm} SocioEvo Sep 10, 07:55

crap just noticed it now. hopefully works out well! at least its afordable :) {nm} kensanity Sep 10, 08:32

Just don't sell it. Hold it till it delists. {nm} SocioEvo Sep 10, 09:00

Throw it all on IPOs! {nm} tribality Sep 14, 05:31

Finally...fiddy million! HuskyMiller Sep 09, 04:18

Kudos to ya Flash Sep 09, 07:56

Indeed! I hit 22 mil and something clicked. Been off to the races ever since. Wonder if I can keep it up through the fall. {nm} HuskyMiller Sep 09, 16:44

Congrats! Catzan Sep 09, 09:24

Thanks Catzan. And thanks for all you insightful posts. I read all that stuff on Ampersand about bonds but I'm still pretty flummoxed. HuskyMiller Sep 09, 17:05

My take on starbonds leegend Sep 09, 17:30

I'm with you so far... HuskyMiller Sep 09, 17:54

Did you check out my post below? :-( {nm} SocioEvo Sep 09, 18:33

I just read it. After of months of struggle (and disinterest) I think I get it now. Thanks so much to everyone for your help. {nm} HuskyMiller Sep 09, 19:03

If you have questions about bonds or TAGs or number crunching, throw it on the Stars board. {nm} SocioEvo Sep 09, 19:09

Oh! Oh! I can help with bonds! SocioEvo Sep 09, 17:37

Is there a way to buy max all funds at once, in most of OK we are stuck with dial-up no matter what TV ads may claim. damenchipguy Sep 08, 15:02

you can get high speed satellite internet from Hughes.net {nm} RazorHawk Sep 08, 15:13

will give them a try, the new AT&T tiny laptop with 3g might be cheaper than what I pay for telephone wired in 1974; seriously! {nm} damenchipguy Sep 08, 23:01

No - there's no way of playing multiple stocks on the one trade. the potential for manipulation is the reason {nm} RogerMore Sep 09, 05:24

Socio an honest question damenchipguy Sep 07, 18:05

Sure. I started in late July, and for the first 2 weeks, I knew nothing. SocioEvo Sep 07, 18:40

And if any vets have any thing to add or correct, please do so. I admit I am still a newb. {nm} SocioEvo Sep 07, 19:20

Daytrading frustrating? Where's the soap? Catzan Sep 07, 22:06

Only from what I've heard, I don't know, I play weekly for now. {nm} SocioEvo Sep 08, 03:44

From my experience, daytrading is pretty easy and if you know when to log in, not terribly time consuming. The way I avoid frustration is Catzan Sep 08, 13:27

Sounds like Socio has wisdom beyond me, I am glad your posting and explaining it will help my game, Catzan always enjoy your posts! {nm} damenchipguy Sep 08, 14:58

Just on last thing....An "easy" way to make 800K.....Just invest 200K in BONDS this Friday AM, and go away for 5-6 months....there will be mrbinns Sep 08, 19:11

Unconventional wisdom and economics is my expertise. I'm afraid numbers still get the best of me. {nm} SocioEvo Sep 08, 19:33

Unconventional will be a breath of fresh air, economics I feel strong but always looking for pop-culture moments to decrease demand at B.O. {nm} damenchipguy Sep 08, 22:53

Since movie stocks that opened this weekend are no longer halted, why don't the prices move until tomorrow? HuskyMiller Sep 07, 13:59

Prices on movies that open are fixed (frozen) until reset on the day of adjust... Flash Sep 07, 14:40

That answer actually makes sense. Except I disagree about the level of fairnes invloved with the time zones. HuskyMiller Sep 07, 15:10

Why is it you think only Americans play HSX? Forget EST and PST.....what about GMT? : P {nm} shahnon Sep 07, 15:17

Why is it YOU think, I'm thinking about anyone other than ME, at the EXCLUSION of others? HuskyMiller Sep 07, 16:15

I am not an IT guy but I wonder about server load. If they released immediately, the concentration of traffic might be troublesome. I don't Catzan Sep 07, 15:46

Back in the day...that was what happened. Stocks were unfrozen at the adjust, and all heck broke lose. Very few people were able to MojaveMeg Sep 07, 23:11

Well...reset is another thing...my point was Flash Sep 08, 07:57

So, does HSX usually go down for an hour? {nm} SocioEvo Sep 07, 07:54

Not usually, the exchange is open 24/7, unless something comes up...a glitch or if they are doing service & need to shut it down... {nm} Flash Sep 07, 08:10

do big-time IPOs like GJOE2 usually drop day 2 as people look for profit or do they climb blandestk Sep 06, 21:51

I think it ultimately depends on various factors. The Twilight 4 stock has mainly climbed with a few small drops, but others haven {nm} SocioEvo Sep 07, 06:12

From what I've seen, they usually climb the second day, too, if it's a big enough movie. Carlion Sep 07, 06:28

G.I. Joe 2 has already moved 11 points. That's +20 percent and change. SocioEvo Sep 07, 06:46

When a derivative cashes out, is the commission still charged? {nm} Egon Sep 05, 19:06

Based on my calculations, yes. {nm} SocioEvo Sep 05, 19:22

no actually. when anything cashes out, it cashes out at whatever price it is suposed to and thats it {nm} boondock islander Sep 05, 20:45

Weird. I thought that's how it worked, but ran some numbers at some point that indicated a commission. My bad. {nm} SocioEvo Sep 06, 04:43

Cash outs are never charged. {nm} shahnon Sep 06, 14:09

Good to know. {nm} SocioEvo Sep 06, 14:17

A question for all the movie industry experts, insiders, and know-it-alls... HuskyMiller Sep 05, 05:09

Kwanzaa week is great!... Perfection Sep 05, 08:08

the two you named plus Christmas are the big ones. As you can see from the early numbers this weekend, Labor Day isn't so stellar. {nm} Carlion Sep 06, 06:49

Christmas itself isn't big - often openers will adjust way down - but the week between Christmas and New Year is huge. {nm} RogerMore Sep 07, 06:22

Isn't July 4th another big one? And what about Hanukkah! {nm} SocioEvo Sep 06, 07:10

I forgot the 4th? Wow I did. Sorry about that. Yeah, big. The days of Hannukah are big for Jewish movies, like Yentl, and The Santa Claus. {nm} Carlion Sep 06, 18:16

I can never remember all the good holidays...so I usually got to Box Office Mojo and click on their "All Time" page which breaks out every Catzan Sep 06, 09:08

Interesting read/chart. Until I got to the very last line. SocioEvo Sep 06, 12:43

IPO movement blandestk Sep 04, 22:44

Lemme think...in the old version, if it was a strong ipo, I think the first movement occurred at 1:50a. Occaisionally, you got a single bump Catzan Sep 04, 23:41

ok, thanks, just wanted to make sure i'm not crazy and they didn't move when the reset occurred. {nm} blandestk Sep 04, 23:52

When I click "Post comment" in my League, nothing happens. BuenaOnda Sep 04, 15:18

You should post this on the support board {nm} RazorHawk Sep 04, 18:47

Question about stock readjust in general kensanity Sep 03, 22:58

Good question. For moviestocks, there are 2 times it adjusts. After the opening weekend and on the delist. SocioEvo Sep 04, 04:39

You are ahead of the game I spent about 18 months trying to figure it out, asking questions here is the first step damenchipguy Sep 04, 13:22

You are ahead of the game I spent about 18 months trying to figure it out, asking questions here is the first step damenchipguy Sep 04, 13:22

^_- I figured it out in like 3 weeks. But I'm not playing moviestocks until I build my capital up. {nm} SocioEvo Sep 04, 13:44

Took me four months...but I am a slow learner. {nm} Catzan Sep 04, 14:36

if not movies, then are u just playing warram\nts and derivatives? Or starbonds? {nm} kensanity Sep 05, 01:28

I've been holding onto several warrants I snagged when I first started playing and once I figured Bonds out I've been playing them weekly. {nm} SocioEvo Sep 05, 06:12

A topic from the movie board that I thought needed to be grought over here. damenchipguy Sep 03, 18:52

DANG, brought over here sorry grammar {nm} damenchipguy Sep 03, 18:53

I agree... and I doubt it corrupts the HSX data {nm} Chefbobcat Sep 05, 03:49

When I log in, I have to reorganize my stocks in alphabetical order. Why? {nm} BuenaOnda Sep 02, 17:11

In fact every time I return to my portfolio page, the stocks are out of order. Why? {nm} BuenaOnda Sep 02, 17:24

I think the 'default' setting is by "today's change" however, I prefer for US to choose the default setting in our Preferences, too Flash Sep 03, 07:51



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