Playing & Trading Strategy

If you Short a Release Date Put & its successful (ie opens earlier) what's the formula for payout? Tallwonder Aug 30, 00:34

The latter {nm} Patient Player Aug 30, 05:55

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The market has turned ndmaster Aug 24, 16:38

Left or right? {nm} DTravel Aug 24, 16:46

180 {nm} ndmaster Aug 24, 18:40

So drive in reverse! {nm} DTravel Aug 24, 19:54

I'm tryin! {nm} ndmaster Aug 25, 00:27

Wtf is going on? {nm} Steved1998 Aug 24, 21:29

Really? DC FanDome Wide Release Opening again. {nm} Antibody Aug 25, 08:35

Watch out - it'll turn again soon! (nm) Patient Player Aug 25, 06:23

Market is pretty active today unaturalx Aug 26, 07:31

Yep just brutal. Traders back in la la land again thinking we are almost out of the worst. skunkrunner Aug 29, 17:17

Is investing in starbonds even worth it? jimhogarth Aug 18, 14:38

StarBonds (which weren't designed to act like real-world bonds) have behavioral quirks that require investors to look at them differently Patient Player Aug 18, 19:02

Oh, in response to your last question: Yes, when I used to have more time for research, I caught some nice profitable bounces in bonds. (nm) Patient Player Aug 18, 19:38

Starbonds can be reliably and safely profitable IF you do the research and math. Many can't or won't.. DTravel Aug 18, 21:02

Not a whole lot going on with them right now. {nm} ndmaster Aug 18, 21:09

When starting , Starbonds can make up a considerable part of your Portfolio Shirtavius Aug 19, 10:43

Should HSX change the way it treats streaming movies? jimhogarth Aug 18, 13:31

This has been asked/suggested many many times. It comes down to "How do you measure their take?" DTravel Aug 18, 13:36

Fair enough. Still, with the way things are going, I feel like change is needed... Otherwise, we lose a good chunk of the industry {nm} jimhogarth Aug 18, 14:00

I understand and I don't mean to be a complete Grinch. We just need some kind of objective, preferably 3rd party, numbers to base it on. {nm} DTravel Aug 18, 15:52

I wish Neilson Ratings would calculate streaming shows as well as... Flash Aug 19, 14:05

From what everyone is saying its the _streaming_ services that don't want to give Neilson the info. DTravel Aug 19, 15:23

Could be, but someone needs to figure out 'how' to translate streaming into box office figures...maybe Jeff Bezos, hahah! {nm} Flash Aug 20, 08:42

IRISH trading on HSX for years and was delisted after 12 weeks of limited release. Antibody Aug 18, 14:13

Woops! Looks like it delisted at 1 cent. Christ... {nm} jimhogarth Aug 18, 14:16

anyone want my account ? 88dho Aug 17, 17:58

You can just reset it back to $2M if you're not using it any longer. {nm} Flash Aug 18, 07:54

if someone deletes thr acc, what happens to the prices of the securities he/she was holding? {nm} Tallwonder Aug 19, 08:25

Not affected. {nm} Antibody Aug 19, 08:33

What do the Oscars look like this year? ndmaster Aug 17, 16:12

I don't think the statues have been changed to include a mask, if that's what you're asking. :P {nm} DTravel Aug 17, 17:05

Lots posted....Delayed ceremony and extended date for eligiblity. Some of the stremers eligible. {nm} BONDS Fund Aug 17, 17:30

Unhinged Opened shelact Aug 16, 06:08

Probably better to post this on Feedback Board. {nm} Flash Aug 16, 09:45

Why do these chat room look like an AOL chat in the late 90's?? mainge Aug 12, 20:43

That there are still millions of those AOL starter discs in the mail? {nm} DTravel Aug 12, 23:46

Since I was never on AOL to begin with - this format looks fine. :-) {nm} Flash Aug 13, 08:38

smh = shaking my head...I just learned that a few days ago {nm} tealfan Aug 13, 08:44

really? smh! also, dont use LOL when someone dies, it does NOT mean lots of love {nm} islndr Aug 13, 10:33

:D {nm} tealfan Aug 13, 15:15

Why do the chat room look like AOL in th elate 90 {nm} mainge Aug 12, 20:42

Holding Pattern At Over 1 Billion Dollars. MitchC Aug 09, 14:23

Why do you think it's pointless to short anything? Patient Player Aug 09, 18:50

Okay. Thanks for the advice. I already have some shorts, and have made some money, but bought a lot of long before this happened {nm} MitchC Aug 09, 19:26

Exactly. The theatrical exhibition business is undergoing a major upheaval and HSX isn't really catching on. {nm} ndmaster Aug 09, 19:51

Markets go up, and markets go down. imacrazymonkey Aug 11, 01:28

And we're about to enter the traditionally slow period for HSX. I wonder how it will play out. {nm} ndmaster Aug 15, 13:59

Mulan 75 Puts trading 4.79?? mainge Aug 12, 08:03

If a theater count of 650 necessary for wide release is never achieved, then all three derivatives will cash out at 0. Antibody Aug 12, 09:13

Personally, I don't see many movies schedule for the rest of this year opening on time...holidays will be interesting, but Flash Aug 10, 08:39

Okay,. Thanks for the advice, Flash . I know this is only play money. {nm} MitchC Aug 10, 13:42

Look at how much success Razorhawk has had these past few months. (Nm) imacrazymonkey Aug 11, 01:30

CNBC: Q2 was a tipping point in streaming wars. Here’s how the media giants stack up stormgod Aug 08, 19:10

Anyone want a $5.5 billion port? I'm done and will give it away free. Email allanolibra@gmail.com {nm} BuenaOnda Aug 08, 11:09

Just reset it back to $2M... {nm} Flash Aug 09, 09:48

Jeez, looks like he just deleted it. {nm} ndmaster Aug 10, 23:48

Will Disney and streaming releases that charge to watch have a box office value? WeAreTeamDemo Aug 06, 06:51

It will not be reliably reported. {nm} DTravel Aug 06, 09:38

As far as I know, and what has been common up to now; Box Office in terms of trading refers to the THEATERS in the US that a movie opens in. RBlaine Aug 07, 12:27

Streaming Wars: A Tale Of Creative Destruction (Seeking Alpha) stormgod Aug 05, 13:07

thanks for sharing this. This type of opinion is informed and well supported. {nm} Moviesnob Aug 05, 14:17

De nada {nm} stormgod Aug 05, 14:36

Interesting. TBH There's not much else they can do. {nm} Prophecy Aug 11, 13:44

Good News: AFRAM FUND (16) (The African-American Fund), Managed By RazorHawk, Is Available at IPO PRICE! {nm} kibitzer Aug 05, 09:20

I'm IN!!! :-) {nm} Flash Aug 05, 14:34

I should have realized I should have been playing the exact opposite of how I would normaly play. Down 10% on the year.......hate you Covid unaturalx Aug 04, 17:55

There is absolutely no reason in the world to own any MST long these days. ndmaster Aug 04, 20:50

Like most unqualified declarations about markets, that one seems unreliable {nm} SenJohnBlutarsky Aug 04, 21:16

Just calling it as I see it. ndmaster Aug 04, 21:33

you know ..... now I'll have to look up what "unqualified declarations" means...... :) unaturalx Aug 05, 05:54

Which is why I'm not playing much. People are shorting because that seems to be the in thing, Not because their is an news on that stock {nm} JDolphin Aug 05, 00:12

And that's not a game I care to play. HSX is now about 80% playing the players. AND I HATE THAT PART OF THE GAME! I've thought about leaving JDolphin Aug 05, 00:25

If Mulan is a huge financial success on Disney+ then the Cinema's are that much closer to extinction unaturalx Aug 05, 05:51

If cinemas are going extinct then their is no point to the game. So unless they find another way to measure the game ends. So why play {nm} JDolphin Aug 06, 00:03

You're wrong about it being playing the players. Instead, it's now about playing a drastically changed cinema market ... Patient Player Aug 05, 09:40

Newsflash: Theaters are closed and are coming back at 30 to 50% capacity if people even go back. You don't think it'll affect box office? {nm} Antibody Aug 05, 10:58

I'm not talking about movies being released in the next 6 months, but those in 2 or 3 yrs. If you think this is going to be permanent then JDolphin Aug 06, 00:25

They always go down when production and release date are pushed back by 6 months or more. Also, VOD has shorten the theatrical window. {nm} Antibody Aug 06, 08:41

Also, dozens of films have been sent and continue to be sent to VOD/Streaming = delist at H$0. {nm} Antibody Aug 05, 11:00

I'm not talking about movies with news .I have shorted those going STV {nm} JDolphin Aug 06, 00:27

You make more money by shorting BEFORE the STV news announcement. {nm} Antibody Aug 06, 08:42

And how are you supposed to know that??? {nm} JDolphin Aug 08, 23:05

Its actually pretty easy. {nm} ndmaster Aug 09, 19:54

Anticipation and speculating is part of the game. As others have mentioned, shorting is the profitable play until box office returns.. {nm} Antibody Aug 10, 10:15

I keep trying to figure out what would be the biggest blockbuster possible with only 1/2 the seats available in all theaters. albrown Aug 05, 12:20

Why? ndmaster Aug 05, 12:36

I think its good to know the over and under on a bet. If I know the top then I have a better chance of guessing the bottom. is albrown Aug 05, 14:49

Wrong. There is news and its is all bad, so to speak. ndmaster Aug 05, 22:22

So if the game has become about shorting everything, what's the point in playing? {nm} JDolphin Aug 06, 00:29

I think at some point big screen movies will come back, but for now adapt to new scenarios... Flash Aug 06, 16:43

I'm shorting because movies are delaying shooting, some going STV, and delayed releases...why not take advantage? {nm} Flash Aug 05, 14:37

Exactamundo! {nm} ndmaster Aug 05, 22:23

Because that's not what I consider fun. {nm} JDolphin Aug 06, 00:36

Pre Covid that was a small part of the game, now it's the majority of the game. {nm} JDolphin Aug 06, 00:39

Wrong. That was the way to play roughly 90% of MST out there before Covid. ndmaster Aug 06, 11:06

It's like when playing CRAPS at the Casino ..... i'll leave the table if someone is betting against the line. I get it JDolph .... I get it. {nm} unaturalx Aug 13, 14:13

I won't short movies when the real world result is people being unemployed. {nm} Silverblue76 Aug 18, 14:22

I have been doing a lot of shorting for the next month or so and when VOD releases are announced. RBlaine Aug 07, 13:15

Introducing New Release Date Call and Put Options Antibody Jul 27, 08:48

Since these involve a movie’s potential opening weekend, I assume Openerfund can invest in them? {nm} Opener Fund Jul 27, 14:17

Sure. {nm} Antibody Jul 27, 18:18

THAT'S why I'm long OPENR, & I'm glad that we're in 100% agreement! {nm} stormgod Aug 02, 19:29

Glad to hear, and thank you for your support! {nm} Opener Fund Aug 04, 16:00

Small error milligan Jul 29, 15:37

That's an example for all options. {nm} Antibody Jul 29, 16:13

Right. The summer heat must be getting to me. {nm} milligan Jul 29, 16:21

Why the different IPO prices? ndmaster Jul 30, 23:35

Because of how far the strike date is from the current release date. {nm} Antibody Jul 31, 10:25

Why not have the strike the current release date? ndmaster Jul 31, 23:14

Current as of IPO date {nm} ndmaster Jul 31, 23:18

Then the Call would be worthless. {nm} Antibody Aug 01, 07:47

Technically, they both would be worthless, just like the old Weekend Options, until it opens ndmaster Aug 01, 14:05

No, Put pays when a movie is delayed. Call is always worthless because a movie will never be moved up right now. {nm} Antibody Aug 01, 16:56

Also, you wouldn't be able to issue options for MULN which is TBD> {nm} Antibody Aug 01, 07:50

Don't look now, but the HSX market is crashing. ndmaster Jul 24, 22:16

what do you recommend? If HSX is to have a future, it will have to evolve but there are certain constraints. Moviesnob Jul 25, 12:38

HSX used to have TV and Music options. Look at them again? {nm} ndmaster Jul 25, 16:07

thanks {nm} Moviesnob Jul 25, 17:22

Delta House earned roughly H$20 million Thursday-Friday of this week. If your portfolio is crashing that could be operator error. SenJohnBlutarsky Jul 25, 13:57

Don't worry, I'm making bank, too. ndmaster Jul 25, 15:27

+1 {nm} albrown Jul 25, 23:02

I’ve nearly recouped my losses from March {nm} Steved1998 Jul 26, 19:10

MILESTONE: SIXTEEN (16) BILLION.. 2 MILL to SIXTEEN (16) BILLION in 2,390 Days. RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jul 19, 09:24

I think we need a "thumbs up" emoji here at HSX. :-) {nm} Flash Jul 19, 10:42