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I have not read "A Tale of Two Cities." I read recently a great French Revolution novel, "A Place of Greater Safety" by Hilary Mantel...

Posted by: second gary (a.k.a 80181597) on Jul 29, 19:28 in response to medv4380's post I'd say most of the hostility is miss guided. Governed,...

... and its trial scenes (the trials of Danton and Desmoulins) are heart-breaking, dreadful things; in BATM3 the trials seem to me to come across as a vague after-thought, and Commissioner Gordon's presence at one of them rather perfunctory.  If Nolan had decided to make something of a "trial of Gordon," attaching it to the movie's earlier concerns about Dent and the Dent Act, then I think it might have achieved something of the flavour of the trials in Mantel's novel.  Some more convincing narrative of a "suffering, imprisoned Gordon" might have helped the aimless feel of the second half of the film.

There are other things in the column/conversation I linked which I think are more resilient criticisms, but again, I think they don't interfere with the enjoyment of the movie in the way that the fate of Bane or the use / mis-use of Bane do.

Rank this summer's superhero films Mr. Smitherz Jul 29, 11:59

They are all very close to each other... LanceStorm22 Jul 29, 12:12

Didn't see Spider-Man so I'd say TDKR > Avengers. darknightz Jul 29, 12:12

I'm with you on The Avengers-related films. Found the lead-up films better than the culmination. {nm} Mr. Smitherz Jul 29, 12:14

I'll rank Avengers and Dark Knight Rises equally in spite of being different from each other. Spider-Man was uninvolving IMO. Jay_Beezy Jul 29, 12:27

Jeff Wells noticed and mentioned the TV movie quality of The Avengers multiple times. Mr. Smitherz Jul 29, 13:44

The only reason Mr. Smitherz Jul 29, 13:53

The Avengers is a great popcorn movie. Put mind in neutral and enjoy. TDKR is a wonderful motion picture full of drama and character study. Tanker Jul 29, 14:06

And the third is just an old meal from whereever reheated in a microwave. {nm} Jay_Beezy Jul 30, 09:55

If you wanna talk about TV movie quality, one could easily say TASM was Spider-Man for the Lifetime channel. {nm} Jay_Beezy Jul 29, 15:53

I haven't seen "The Avengers." SPID4 is well-enough done, but unambitious; BATM3 seemed to me a mixed blessing... second gary Jul 29, 12:52

Avengers, Spider-Man, TDKR Power87 Jul 29, 14:41

Avengers, Spider-Man, The Dark Knight Returns Budd Jul 29, 15:13

Dark Knight Rises {nm} b4bad Jul 29, 16:22

TDKR,Avengers, did not like the TASM (Spidey has always been my all time fav comic character), Ghostrider sucked less than the last one, b4bad Jul 29, 16:26

The Amazing Spider-man is a counter example to both The Dark Knight Rises and to The Avengers. medv4380 Jul 29, 17:26

I'm not as down on TASM as you are, but you pretty much nailed it on Avengers and TDK/TDKR. {nm} Tanker Jul 29, 17:38

As I said, I have mixed feelings about BATM3; but there is real and credible hostility for the movie which I don't... second gary Jul 29, 18:15

I'd say most of the hostility is miss guided. Governed, in part, by a "occupy" bias, and a lack of knowledge about A Tale of Two Cities medv4380 Jul 29, 19:13

I have not read "A Tale of Two Cities." I read recently a great French Revolution novel, "A Place of Greater Safety" by Hilary Mantel... second gary Jul 29, 19:28

Bane Could have had improvements, but spoilers medv4380 Jul 29, 20:52

TDKR>Avengers>>>Spidey robb1138 Jul 29, 18:54





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