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while I don't disagree that 90-100M would be a great opening, I expect more from this film.

Posted by: lobogotti on Apr 27, 17:45 in response to notfabio's post Man of Steel is a reboot and its always the sequels to...

You have a lot more insight in this industry than myself, but there have been a few originals that have done very well fresh out of the gate...

Iron Man - 99M
Spider-Man - 115M (Spider-Man 2 took a 4-day holiday weekend to reach this number)
Hunger Games - 152M

While Hunger isn't a comparison to this type of film and it was a first of it's kind, it's easy to see that there aren't a lot to choose from in the stellar opening category for an original (making your point).

Steel is starting to feel (and this is only my opinion) like a continuation of The Dark Knight work Nolan propelled to such great heights.  It's replacing the empty feeling I had once I had seen TDKR (and realizing it was over), pining for another type of film experience in the comic book genre.  Fans are familiar with Snyder (the good and the bad), but they are more excited about a new origin story from the hand of Nolan. 

I would be crazy to say it would open to anything like an Avengers, but I certainly think 125M+ is more likely given the people responsible for delivering this film to us, regardless of what the last Superman opened to.  If screenings come out early and reviews are what I expect they should be based on who is behind the wheel, then 140M+ wouldn't surprise me.

It has the benefit of nothing with HUGE buzz opening anywhere near it.  Trek is 4 weeks prior, Fast 6 is 3 weeks prior, After Earth is 2 weeks prior with the Purge, The Internship and This Is the End a week to a few days before.  People are going to be hungry for this one.  The Batman fans will be there, but so will a ton of Marvel fans as well.  I think the people are/will recognize the superior delivery of what this film should be.

My two cents.  Buy me a beer if it opens to 130M+.  Though I am not saying you're disagreeing with it opening over 100M, but I'll buy you one if it does. ;)

Yahoo Movie Poll - I have suspected that Man of Steel was going to open a lot bigger than most imagine since the first trailer. The last lobogotti Apr 27, 16:27

Man of Steel is a reboot and its always the sequels to reboots that open big. Current price would be a huge great opening {nm} notfabio Apr 27, 17:13

The recent Spider-Man reboot wasn't exceptional, was it? I doubt the Fantastic Four reboot will be either. {nm} KalElFan Apr 27, 17:42

I have every confidence that the action and visuals of Snyder, coupled with the storytelling of Nolan will make this film a HUGE success. {nm} lobogotti Apr 27, 17:49

while I don't disagree that 90-100M would be a great opening, I expect more from this film. lobogotti Apr 27, 17:45

How or if they report the Walmart tickets will be huge as it is several million dollars in tickets for just one thursday show {nm} notfabio Apr 27, 19:04

theatres are not redeeming the tickets into their box office so WB it wont show up on Rentrak etc {nm} notfabio Apr 27, 19:07

interesting indeed. but WB is going to want those numbers in the OW, right? {nm} lobogotti Apr 28, 07:05

Since the pre-sales and gross will be known in advance, I would think WB simply reports it and ERC adds it in. {nm} KalElFan Apr 27, 19:21

To play devil's advocate: sure there are no big-buzz event pictures close to its release date, since only 2 June releases... second gary Apr 27, 20:42

Only Khan is worse for TREK2 IMO. Jor-El, Krypton, Zod (maybe teasing Brainiac for SUPR3) fit SUPR2 and avoid the campy Luthor drag. {nm} KalElFan Apr 28, 03:31

SR had a B+ Cinemascore and 76% RT. Reeve 78 has 93% on RT. To shatter June's record with a $150M+ OW, SUPR2 needs A/A+ and 90%++. {nm} KalElFan Apr 28, 03:37

That's not cause-effect. It's just that a very high A+ and 95%, for example, would correlate to huge buzz and WoM, and a massive OW. {nm} KalElFan Apr 28, 03:39

the buzz is there, that poll is impressive. Steel 27% (31.5K+) favored with Iron Man at 24% (28K+) currently. lobogotti Apr 28, 08:20

Hello gary my good man, hope all has been well with you and yours. To your points, I did that research as well and lobogotti Apr 28, 08:11

Hi C, how are things with you? second gary Apr 28, 09:40

I'm doing fine, thank you for asking. recovering from a weight lifting surgery, slow going, but I think it will get better soon. lobogotti Apr 28, 16:53

I saw all three opening weekend. second gary Apr 28, 17:39

very good. will you be seeing Steel opening weekend? if not, to avoid crowds or interest? lobogotti Apr 29, 07:38

Maybe; I don't mind the crowds. SUPR2 would rank 6th of the big summer films I'd like to see, after TREK2, WWARZ, ELYSM, PACRM, & GATSB. {nm} second gary Apr 29, 08:03

Get well soon from the surgery. {nm} second gary Apr 28, 17:43

thank you lobogotti Apr 29, 07:38

The key with Man of Steel, methinks, is that it's been 35 years since the last good Superman movie. Upside is huge IF done right. {nm} KalElFan Apr 27, 17:47

Agreed. The last trailer, Nolan, Walmart, the reimagining of Reeve I + II in one kick-a$$ movie = potentially huge upside potential. {nm} KalElFan Apr 27, 17:50

Reeve '78 went about Top 5 all-time, yet along with II had flaws (campiness esp. Luthor, giving up powers, amnesia superkiss ending). {nm} KalElFan Apr 27, 17:53

Lose those flaws, condense 2 into 1, get an A or better A+ Cinemascore, and 90%+ on RT, and Top 5 all-time is achievable again IMO. {nm} KalElFan Apr 27, 17:59

well, if it is anything like this, we're gold... lobogotti Apr 27, 18:16

If only trailer love automatically equated to movie love. :-) There's also the Snyder factor many still seem concerned about. {nm} KalElFan Apr 27, 19:23

I liked the giving up the powers and the amnesia superkiss ending - But I agree with you on the campiness {nm} JDolphin Apr 28, 14:03





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