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Hi C, how are things with you?

Posted by: second gary (a.k.a 80181597) on Apr 28, 09:40 in response to lobogotti's post Hello gary my good man, hope all has been well with you...

I'm well, though an aunt I'm very fond of died in her sleep two nights ago, and I'm sad about that.

I loved "300" and the first and second Nolan Batman films; I loved "Memento" and "Insomnia," and liked "Inception."  I didn't see "Watchmen" or "Sucker Punch."

I concede that a comic book property doesn't have to be "Ulysses" to meet a minimum standard for good story-telling; the story-telling in "Jurassic Park" was good enough to let the effects and the dazzling set pieces lift the whole experience, much as Heath Ledger's performance elevated the second Batman film, or the combination of the voice work of Butler, the zing of Spartan mercenary civic values and the Miller-Snyder look of "300" elevated it.  What I get from the first SUPR2 trailer is the X-Men message, sanctioning individual difference—Superman's "coming out" as an individual.  The bus business is the best moment, I think; it's really a strong point.  But I... wonder about the prospects of this subtext, if my read is right.  Difference in the X-Men film universe is connected to uncanny powers which license exuberant visuals and the smouldering resentment of power in others.  This isn't true in the Superman universe, I think.  The flying sequence in the trailer is... not its strongest moment.  This was a visual fx Everest to solve... in 1978.  So I am less convinced so far.  

Yahoo Movie Poll - I have suspected that Man of Steel was going to open a lot bigger than most imagine since the first trailer. The last lobogotti Apr 27, 16:27

Man of Steel is a reboot and its always the sequels to reboots that open big. Current price would be a huge great opening {nm} notfabio Apr 27, 17:13

The recent Spider-Man reboot wasn't exceptional, was it? I doubt the Fantastic Four reboot will be either. {nm} KalElFan Apr 27, 17:42

I have every confidence that the action and visuals of Snyder, coupled with the storytelling of Nolan will make this film a HUGE success. {nm} lobogotti Apr 27, 17:49

while I don't disagree that 90-100M would be a great opening, I expect more from this film. lobogotti Apr 27, 17:45

How or if they report the Walmart tickets will be huge as it is several million dollars in tickets for just one thursday show {nm} notfabio Apr 27, 19:04

theatres are not redeeming the tickets into their box office so WB it wont show up on Rentrak etc {nm} notfabio Apr 27, 19:07

interesting indeed. but WB is going to want those numbers in the OW, right? {nm} lobogotti Apr 28, 07:05

Since the pre-sales and gross will be known in advance, I would think WB simply reports it and ERC adds it in. {nm} KalElFan Apr 27, 19:21

To play devil's advocate: sure there are no big-buzz event pictures close to its release date, since only 2 June releases... second gary Apr 27, 20:42

Only Khan is worse for TREK2 IMO. Jor-El, Krypton, Zod (maybe teasing Brainiac for SUPR3) fit SUPR2 and avoid the campy Luthor drag. {nm} KalElFan Apr 28, 03:31

SR had a B+ Cinemascore and 76% RT. Reeve 78 has 93% on RT. To shatter June's record with a $150M+ OW, SUPR2 needs A/A+ and 90%++. {nm} KalElFan Apr 28, 03:37

That's not cause-effect. It's just that a very high A+ and 95%, for example, would correlate to huge buzz and WoM, and a massive OW. {nm} KalElFan Apr 28, 03:39

the buzz is there, that poll is impressive. Steel 27% (31.5K+) favored with Iron Man at 24% (28K+) currently. lobogotti Apr 28, 08:20

Hello gary my good man, hope all has been well with you and yours. To your points, I did that research as well and lobogotti Apr 28, 08:11

Hi C, how are things with you? second gary Apr 28, 09:40

I'm doing fine, thank you for asking. recovering from a weight lifting surgery, slow going, but I think it will get better soon. lobogotti Apr 28, 16:53

I saw all three opening weekend. second gary Apr 28, 17:39

very good. will you be seeing Steel opening weekend? if not, to avoid crowds or interest? lobogotti Apr 29, 07:38

Maybe; I don't mind the crowds. SUPR2 would rank 6th of the big summer films I'd like to see, after TREK2, WWARZ, ELYSM, PACRM, & GATSB. {nm} second gary Apr 29, 08:03

Get well soon from the surgery. {nm} second gary Apr 28, 17:43

thank you lobogotti Apr 29, 07:38

The key with Man of Steel, methinks, is that it's been 35 years since the last good Superman movie. Upside is huge IF done right. {nm} KalElFan Apr 27, 17:47

Agreed. The last trailer, Nolan, Walmart, the reimagining of Reeve I + II in one kick-a$$ movie = potentially huge upside potential. {nm} KalElFan Apr 27, 17:50

Reeve '78 went about Top 5 all-time, yet along with II had flaws (campiness esp. Luthor, giving up powers, amnesia superkiss ending). {nm} KalElFan Apr 27, 17:53

Lose those flaws, condense 2 into 1, get an A or better A+ Cinemascore, and 90%+ on RT, and Top 5 all-time is achievable again IMO. {nm} KalElFan Apr 27, 17:59

well, if it is anything like this, we're gold... lobogotti Apr 27, 18:16

If only trailer love automatically equated to movie love. :-) There's also the Snyder factor many still seem concerned about. {nm} KalElFan Apr 27, 19:23

I liked the giving up the powers and the amnesia superkiss ending - But I agree with you on the campiness {nm} JDolphin Apr 28, 14:03





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