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One of the great pleasures of "The Incredibles" is watching their superheroes work around limitations, i.e., before...

Posted by: second gary (a.k.a 80181597) on Jul 09, 20:33 in response to Antibody's post Your bar is set way too low if you subscribe to the...

... he resumes working out, Mr. Incredible has a paunch, and that makes using the exit hatch on a remote-drop vehicle a problem.  Elasta-Girl has a saggy butt.  Violet has to learn to extend forcefields.  Dash runs into bugs.  As Bird points out in a commentary, Mr. Incredible knows that when the train smashes into his face, it will hurt.  When the limitations recede, you move from the incredible towards the dubious.

Re: movie physics posts below-it IS possible to jump forward on a moving train. Depends how fast it is moving, forlorne Jul 09, 10:51

Wolverine does not have superhuman strength {nm} RazorHawk Jul 09, 10:54

superhuman fast-twitch muscle fibers, maybe? {nm} forlorne Jul 09, 11:00

no, he has healing factor, superhuman senses, and bones coated with metal, no superhuman strength {nm} RazorHawk Jul 09, 11:05

The air resistance on a bullet train speeding at 185mph will knock you back. {nm} Antibody Jul 09, 11:01

really, so what? its a comic book movie, its not real, none of it is real. As soon as you say, that could never happen" Moviesnob Jul 09, 11:09

I don't get your "it's only a movie" argument. Believability is the difference bwetween a good movie and a bad movie. {nm} Antibody Jul 09, 11:11

because its subjective. You cant get hung up that these conventions. Once you've established its science fiction, its not bound by any Moviesnob Jul 09, 11:19

That's not true, the best science fiction are within a consistent internal logic. Bad sci-fi use "magic blood" to overcome death. {nm} Antibody Jul 09, 11:27

It is consistent with internal logic. That logic is that the character isn't bound by laws of science. Moviesnob Jul 09, 11:39

I think I disagree here. GIJOE had ridiculous things that were part of the movie, like accelerator suits and nanomites. I could accept RogerMore Jul 09, 12:43

i think the two are different. I havent seen the movie but I think its reasonable to portray superheroes acting like superheroes and have Moviesnob Jul 09, 13:12

Each superhero has defined powers and weaknesses. Doesn't mean every superhero is automatically all-powerful. {nm} Antibody Jul 09, 14:08

Your bar is set way too low if you subscribe to the theory that anything is possible because it's make-believe. That's lazy filmmaking. {nm} Antibody Jul 09, 12:50

My bar is my bar. I expect superheroes in superhero movies to act like superheroes. I dont think thats a low bar. {nm} Moviesnob Jul 09, 13:09

One of the great pleasures of "The Incredibles" is watching their superheroes work around limitations, i.e., before... second gary Jul 09, 20:33

Multiple commenters have pointed this out on io9, AICN, CBM...etc. You'll lose the geeks if you don't follow expected movie logic. Antibody Jul 09, 11:15

thats their perspective. I choose to enjoy movies and not be bound by "verisimilitude". I like being able to watch a synth rock band fight Moviesnob Jul 09, 11:23

With Antibody on this one. Logic trumps stupidity. You can stretch logic to some point but we all have our limits. {nm} doitdoitdoitnow Jul 09, 11:49

OK...so how does the MOS shave his indestructible beard? How does he leap faster than gravity to always catch up to falling objects? {nm} mrbinns Jul 09, 12:23

Heat vision. Superman came from Krypton which had a much heavier gravity than Earth. {nm} Antibody Jul 09, 12:44

that wouldn't make him free fall faster. I doubt there's a sci-fi/comic book movie out there that doesn't violate internal logic +/or forlorne Jul 09, 13:34

Superman gets his superpower from our yellow sun. {nm} Antibody Jul 09, 14:06

it has been etablished he has some kind of internal propulsion (ie flight) so he can travel down faster than gravity. {nm} dobler Jul 09, 15:03





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