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Just b/c Obama is president doesn't mean there's not racism, sexism or discrimination.

Posted by: Moviesnob on Jan 15, 18:30 in response to tteddy286's post I agree there were times of neglect, but I dont see that...

There's also a difference between race baiting and constructive criticism. 

W: For the first time since 1998, all the 20 acting category slots filled with white nominees #OscarsSoWhite trending Antibody Jan 15, 13:53

Where's the problem? {nm} Steve Scalise Jan 15, 14:09

The difference between 0 and 2.4 (12% of population) is pretty small. It's bound to happen, sometimes. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Jan 15, 15:03

You're forgetting 17% Hispanics and 5% Asian. A third would be representative. {nm} Antibody Jan 15, 15:08

I meant a quarter. {nm} Antibody Jan 15, 15:09

At least 5 of the 20 nominees for acting are foreign born so that gums up the statistics a bit. {nm} maltrinity Jan 15, 15:35

You're right - they are only including white foreigners. Excellent point! {nm} RogerMore Jan 15, 15:37

Its 6 and the point was you cannot use a quota system based on the US population. Nothing more. {nm} maltrinity Jan 15, 15:41

I got the point you were making. It's not a good one, is my point. {nm} RogerMore Jan 15, 15:47

Tell that to Antibody who was using the US population. I never beleived the Academy members were ever objective. {nm} maltrinity Jan 15, 15:53

That makes it even worse. {nm} Antibody Jan 15, 15:56

yep {nm} maltrinity Jan 15, 15:59

Fair enough. My mind was still in Selma, after the past few boards. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Jan 15, 16:57

Fair enough. My mind was still in Selma, after the past few boards. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Jan 15, 16:59

Fair enough. My mind was still in Selma, after the past few boards. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Jan 15, 16:59

Wow, a triple! Posting from the phone is a bit odd. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Jan 15, 17:48

Whites dominate Hollywood! They always have and they always will. {nm} lhayes37 Jan 15, 15:19

"Always" is a very long time. Not a provable statement. {nm} BSmurf Jan 15, 15:44

lol wut? Whites will always dominate Hollywood. Most Jewish people are white, you do know that right? {nm} lhayes37 Jan 15, 16:27

wait, the *Jews* run Hollywood?! charlie Jan 15, 16:33

and the banks. dont forget the banks {nm} Moviesnob Jan 15, 16:38

well, sure, everyone knows that {nm} charlie Jan 15, 16:50

If I understand you correctly, you're stating FOR A FACT that for all of eternity, in perpetuity, that white people will dominate Hollywood? BSmurf Jan 15, 16:43

If the votes are for quality irregardless of colour, it's bound to happen some years. {nm} grammar Jan 15, 15:20

But as is noted every single years, Oscar votes aren't really based on quality. {nm} RogerMore Jan 15, 15:22

No, this is what happens when Oscar voters are nearly 94% Caucasian and 77% male. Antibody Jan 15, 15:58

That's sad and depressing. For shame Hollywood, for shame. {nm} Hersheybar Jan 15, 17:03

Still dont see the problem you have with this antibody. {nm} tteddy286 Jan 15, 17:29

it's not just him charlie Jan 15, 17:32

And why do you? You are taking away from those who got nominated and stating that they tteddy286 Jan 15, 17:35

if the hood fits . . . charlie Jan 15, 17:42

I dont see how you classify this as a deficiency. Again, why should a white person not get nominated just because tteddy286 Jan 15, 17:46

one year might be an anomaly. year in year out over 87 years is a consistent pattern of bias against non-white actors {nm} charlie Jan 15, 17:48

I see a long list of minorities who have won or been nominated in the past. So whats your problem? Why should tteddy286 Jan 15, 17:52

i don't think "long" means what you think it means {nm} charlie Jan 15, 18:03

based upon statistics presented, its a very long list. And I should add tteddy286 Jan 15, 18:05

That's what she said {nm} JohnErleVan Jan 16, 01:50

Why should people have to vote for a minority just to make race baiters happy? {nm} tteddy286 Jan 15, 17:31

its not entirely about just the voting. people of color and women get far fewer opportunities to make films. thats not cool. {nm} islander Jan 15, 18:05

and this is the white persons fault? {nm} tteddy286 Jan 15, 18:11

obviously *nothing* is ever the white person's fault charlie Jan 15, 18:12

I guess you consider all the "white" people who feel into the hype and voted tteddy286 Jan 15, 18:17

please proceed, Governor {nm} charlie Jan 15, 18:21

I guess thats the answer I expected from you {nm} tteddy286 Jan 15, 18:25

uh, yes? {nm} islander Jan 15, 18:13

Other then your own opinion, how so? {nm} tteddy286 Jan 15, 18:14

I see Tyler Perry do more then well, and he is a minority. {nm} tteddy286 Jan 15, 18:15

I see lots of women that apply themselves do excellent in the workforce. As well as minorities that apply themselves. {nm} tteddy286 Jan 15, 18:16

So you are suggesting that women don't apply themselves in film. Can't you see how that's discrimination? {nm} Moviesnob Jan 15, 18:18

appearantly they apply themselves enough to be in the film. tteddy286 Jan 15, 18:22

Because they created a sep category after long years of neglect. {nm} Moviesnob Jan 15, 18:24

I agree there were times of neglect, but I dont see that now. This era is all about opportunity tteddy286 Jan 15, 18:26

Just b/c Obama is president doesn't mean there's not racism, sexism or discrimination. Moviesnob Jan 15, 18:30

is this a personal opinion, or the opinion that the media has instilled into those who dont seek the truth themself? tteddy286 Jan 15, 18:33

Huh? Obama didn't win a majority of white votes in 2008. {nm} RogerMore Jan 15, 18:44

U must think that the popular vote matters in the presidential race? It doesnt. all that matter is the electoral votes tteddy286 Jan 15, 18:48

"He could have only done that if a vast majority of the white population voted for him". Your words. {nm} RogerMore Jan 15, 18:50

and who do you think the electoral votes are? According to politics, a majority of them were indeed white. {nm} tteddy286 Jan 15, 18:52

Next time tteddy286 Jan 15, 18:53

They are not "the white population", which is what you said. {nm} RogerMore Jan 15, 18:54

Needless to say, people need to stop seeking racism and discrimination where none exists {nm} tteddy286 Jan 15, 18:57

And please, how many faithless electors are there? 24 states have laws against them, and the last election with more than one was in 1896 {nm} RogerMore Jan 15, 18:58

Politicains are all faithless. Rarely any actually fulfill their promises once elected. They feed which ever hand feeds them and fattens tteddy286 Jan 15, 19:01

Oh look, more diversion. {nm} RogerMore Jan 15, 19:08

well, provide some factual proof of racism and discrimination other then your owned prejudiced opinion and I'll refute it ;) {nm} tteddy286 Jan 15, 19:11

More diversion. I've already demonstrated that you make stuff up to support your opinions. Maybe you should do better at seeking truth? {nm} RogerMore Jan 15, 19:21

HaHaHa, your whining bores me. I see nothing but your tactics to turn the truth, that your personal opinions drives you to seek racism tteddy286 Jan 15, 19:56

Who effing cares? Poor me and cry me a river. Christ, get over the racial **** already. {nm} hawkfanatic2 Jan 15, 21:12

+1 {nm} Dorfman Jan 16, 06:21

Another thread i'll gladly skip {nm} JMT-NL Jan 16, 03:35





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