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What I've been thinking about the STAR WARS Franchise going forward, and our game, and one other thing (BIG SPOILERS INSIDE)

Posted by: goodvibe61 on Jan 04, 19:07

The question everyone is asking now is, will this franchise grow, will it slow down, will it oversaturate, what is going to happen?

In my opinion, the reason this movie struck like it did was its ability to combine the original cast with a new set of characters. The hunger for the original cast members cannot be overstated! All you have to do is look at the prequels, which performed very well, but they clearly did not do THIS kind of business! Why didn't they? I know it's not the only reason, but come on now, a very LARGE reason is: No Harrison Ford, No Carrie, No Mark. 

Now: Abrams and Company did the exact best thing they could do with the original cast members. His team made a near perfect combination of old and new. But ask yourselves: How much of this is Harrison Ford? 

I'll tell you.....ALOT. 

I love what he's done. He gave a genuine performance again. I know of all the talk over the years, the stuff he's said over time about playing this role. But you know what, he performed the hell out of this role thirty years later. He IS Han Solo. Again. 

And a big, BIG part of this story is what happened to Han Solo. 

And I'm assuming that in the next 2 films, there is no Han Solo. 

And that's significant. Very, Very significant. 

Now, there's one other card that Abrams and Company brilliantly held back. They held back Luke Skywalker, at least until that perfect, final shot. Fantastic. It's all lightning in a bottle. Now, they have Skywalker still. How they intend to use him might go a long ways toward the lasting power of this new set of films. 

And even still, the plot might mean that without Ford, the franchise might struggle a little to maintain this kind of popularity. 

I think there might be a tendancy for players to go a little overboard when it comes to this franchise, but we'll see. 

And the one other thing I keep thinking about regarding Harrison Ford and this movie: 

I wish, I WISH that Robert Plant would go see this movie. I really do. I wish he'd look at what's happening around the world at this movie. For people of my generation, you know exactly what I'm talking about. I want to write Plant a letter: 

 

Dear Robert: See what Harrison just did for the fans? Why can't you please do this? The whole world would be happy, if only for a relatively short period of time, say a year and  a half, or whatever it would take to tour the world once. Please see what Ford has done, and think about the fans. 

Please!

 

What I've been thinking about the STAR WARS Franchise going forward, and our game, and one other thing (BIG SPOILERS INSIDE) goodvibe61 Jan 04, 19:07

completely disagree slipping jimmy Jan 04, 19:22

So you're saying you think this movie would've been far more successful without Harrison Ford in it. OK, we agree to disagree. {nm} goodvibe61 Jan 04, 20:38

not successful. better. {nm} slipping jimmy Jan 04, 20:47

OK. Again, agree to disagree. I keep thinking of some kid that's going to play Han Solo and not Ford in a prequel. No thanks. {nm} goodvibe61 Jan 04, 20:54

Kasdan + young Han Solo = gold {nm} slipping jimmy Jan 04, 20:58

We'll see. Young Indiana Jones. No thanks. This Han flick won't have these iconic actors. I wonder what it will take to get me interested. goodvibe61 Jan 04, 21:19

70MM {nm} slipping jimmy Jan 04, 21:24

Might make a difference in what version I see, but makes ZERO difference in seeing a film. Actually less than zero, since promoting that as JDolphin Jan 04, 21:50

I think there could be a lot of people interested in a Han Solo anthology. See him back in the days of the Kessel Run. How he got the Dorfman Jan 05, 04:29

explain how a unit of length became a unit of time {nm} slipping jimmy Jan 05, 10:12

It was explained in the expanded universe. He found a shortcut lol Dorfman Jan 05, 12:11

Yes. Spoilers of course. second gary Jan 05, 08:23

Luke is the Keystone, we are all set. {nm} skunkrunner Jan 04, 19:29

Luke, SHOULD, {nm} queensguy Jan 04, 19:35

Luke, SHOULD, {nm} queensguy Jan 04, 19:35

Luke SHOULD be the keystone, but Ford always carried the day, because he had the acting chops. {nm} queensguy Jan 04, 19:38

Maybe Fisher, and Hamill, can eventually pull it off, but we have a better chance with Mayew. {nm} queensguy Jan 04, 19:42

The Han Solo movie could be dicey if they don't nail him right, worry that could do the worst, Boba Fett, Yoda and Rogue One Baron_Darcon Jan 04, 22:06

We should see a lot of Bathans die. {nm} Dorfman Jan 05, 04:30

that's Rogue One {nm} slipping jimmy Jan 05, 10:14

yeah.. his post mentioned Rogue One {nm} Dorfman Jan 05, 12:13

True. {nm} second gary Jan 05, 07:22

Shoot, if those were 'acting chops" displayed by Ford in VII, I'm scared to see what Hamill has in store for us in VIII {nm} sberg23 Jan 05, 13:00

these movies are going to break records over and over IMO. the lucas famine is over, and now fans will feast upon star wars. {nm} Exogen Jan 04, 22:28

Lucas created 95% of everything that is in the Force Awakens {nm} slipping jimmy Jan 04, 22:40

the lucas famine is over. Exogen Jan 04, 22:46

he was going to make Ep VII to XI before Disney offered to buy the company {nm} slipping jimmy Jan 04, 22:49

mind sharing a source? I have extreme trouble believing that. {nm} Exogen Jan 04, 23:00

"Lucas already started to develop the next three Star Wars films, but he knew a third trilogy was a 10-year commitment at least." slipping jimmy Jan 04, 23:05

considering some other things he's said recently, I'll hope you excuse me for taking that with a massive grain of salt. {nm} Exogen Jan 04, 23:08

he literally told the same thing verbatim in the Charlie Rose interview a week ago {nm} slipping jimmy Jan 05, 00:12

Independently Marketsaw came across the sequel trilogy development about a year before the Disney deal and {nm} notfabio Jan 05, 07:07

Hamill at least has mentioned Lucas approached him and others before the Disney deal about them {nm} notfabio Jan 05, 07:08

why is it so hard for you to imagine him making all this up? do you really think he changed his mind after 2 decades of fan resentment? {nm} Exogen Jan 05, 10:17

why is it so hard for you to accept that he was. he gave the treatments to Disney. they threw them in the trash {nm} slipping jimmy Jan 05, 10:47

because they were probably trash. it doesn't matter anyway. Exogen Jan 05, 12:08

Yes, BUT House of Mouse promptly jettisoned Lucas' ideas for episode 7-9 {nm} The Force-Ghost of DTravel Jan 05, 12:38

the old characters got me in the theater, but the new characters make we want to see STAR8 and 9...and they won't be in the spinoffs {nm} tealfan Jan 04, 22:33

I liked the new characters just fine. But seeing Luke and Leia are what have me thinking about STAR8. And maybe goodvibe61 Jan 04, 23:07

I too was disappointed that there was no Lando in Episode VII. {nm} Dorfman Jan 05, 04:31

I agree, I very much enjoyed the new characters and I don't see why they can't be just as iconic as Han, Luke, and Leia someday. {nm} ingenious Jan 04, 23:26

Come on man...maybe Daisy becomes a Keira Knightley or something. But Boyega...come on now! {nm} lhayes37 Jan 05, 08:18

Boyega I thought was a bit over the top. Ridley was superb, and I liked Oscar Issac {nm} Dorfman Jan 05, 09:50

IMO people are already very invested in the new characters. Han Solo helped Episode VII, but people will go to VIII for Rey, Finn, etc., {nm} CG63 Jan 05, 08:54

+1 {nm} Dorfman Jan 05, 09:50

+1, plus Luke. Abrams is very skilled at this kind of thing, and he and a savvy 2016 Hamill can make better use of Luke than 70's Hamill {nm} FranklynStreet Jan 05, 13:22

Rian Johnson is directing Ep. VIII {nm} slipping jimmy Jan 05, 15:16





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