HSX Forum

Movies

I think the issue is the various problems with the verdict and the victim...

Posted by: numbersix_99 on Aug 24, 01:33 in response to DTshakes' post I'm new to the story but wasn't he acquitted in 2001?...

... who committed suicide several years ago and who the family have claimed her mental health deteriorated after the verdict of the case. Plus the film's co-writer was convicted of rape but appealed and won becaue the victim did not want to go through the whole ordeal again. Deadline posted transcripts of a phone call between Parker and the victim that's pretty incriminating, but Parker got off becaue he had sexual relations with the victim prior to the night in question. Which makes little sense.

Ā 

Anyway, it's all up for debate but basically there are many who feel the result of the case wasn't real justice, and that's impacting on people's opinion of both Parker and the film.

V: Some prominent members of black Hollywood are standing with Nate Parker, but they haven't backed him publicly yet. Peterlee Aug 23, 19:18

CNN: Harvey Weinstein defends "Birth of a Nation'" director as a 'good person' amid backlash Peterlee Aug 23, 19:42

Harvey Weinstein is not someone I would want backing me in that kind of situation. {nm} DTravel Aug 24, 09:42

Fox has started their national tv campaign for Birth of a Nation with the Oct 7th date {nm} notfabio Aug 23, 19:49

Why does Hollywood feel rape is no big deal? Not trolling, legitimately asking. {nm} Bubba_Fett Aug 23, 20:37

Who stated that "Hollywood" feels that rape is no bid deal?! {nm} DTshakes Aug 23, 22:52

I don't think it's a matter of "no big deal" as much as it is a complex issue for some to navigate. Some ideas inside: RogerMore Aug 24, 06:26

I'm new to the story but wasn't he acquitted in 2001? Isn't that the definition of having his day in court? DTshakes Aug 23, 22:51

yes, and yes {nm} slipping jimmy Aug 23, 23:10

I think the issue is the various problems with the verdict and the victim... numbersix_99 Aug 24, 01:33

Actually the sexual relations prior likely got him off with reasonable doubt... TwoMisfits Aug 24, 05:50

Acquitted when date rape was barely acknowledged as a crime. {nm} leo21 Aug 24, 06:02

bull****. "date rape" has been acknowledged since the 80s. {nm} slipping jimmy Aug 24, 08:39

And still about as impossible to convict on - the "technicality" that got the 1st conviction thrown out was "inefficient counsel" TwoMisfits Aug 24, 10:04

the rules of evidence and the Constitution are not "technicalities." and unless one of us was on the jury (i wasn't) none of us know exactly slipping jimmy Aug 24, 10:29

Rules of evidence vary by states - in some states, those phone calls would have been admissable - and in all states, they tell us the truth. TwoMisfits Aug 24, 10:40

Well rape isn't exactly a public endeavor--and we know "gentle, nice" public personas can have closets with skeletons. {nm} chosenone2oo5 Aug 24, 09:05

it's not a skeleton in a closet. it was on his own wikipedia page {nm} slipping jimmy Aug 24, 09:07

Look again at Wiki - that was all edited and added this month... {nm} TwoMisfits Aug 24, 09:33

The Wayback Machine's archived page (from April 2016) mentions it. (No doubt the page has been edited since) RogerMore Aug 24, 09:47

Yeah, look at the difference - night and day...one sounds like the victim falsely accused him - now, we know better... TwoMisfits Aug 24, 09:50

Ah OK, I thought you meant that the incident wasn't referred to at all. {nm} RogerMore Aug 24, 10:11

No - one way it was 2 sentences that made it sound like a false accusation... TwoMisfits Aug 24, 10:16

I was coming at it from the "Fox was surprised even though it was on wiki" angle. {nm} RogerMore Aug 24, 10:37

The Devil was in the details... Used2BeTwitterFamous Aug 24, 11:05





Post a Reply

To post to the forums you must first login!


Ed Harris (EHARR) 10197 53.72 (+0.79)          Ed Harris (EHARR) 25000 53.72 (+0.79)          Vanessa Kirby (VKIRB) 25000 100.51 (+0.33)          Tom Hiddleston (THIDD) 25000 160.73 (-0.50)          Margaret Qualley (MQUAL) 25000 7.65 (-0.16)          Ciaran Hinds (CHIND) 25000 53.71 (-1.41)          Lewis Pullman (LPULL) 25000 39.02 (-0.03)          Jessica Henwick (JHENW) 25000 10.69 (-0.16)          Alpha Gang (ALPHG) 150000 3.40 (-0.06)          Alpha Gang (ALPHG) 150000 3.40 (-0.06)          Ryan Reynolds (RREYN) 25000 133.82 (+0.66)          Hokum (HOKUM) 1 8.99 (+0.08)          Hokum (HOKUM) 1 8.99 (+0.08)          Amanda Seyfried (ASEYF) 25000 25.88 (-0.11)          Amanda Seyfried (ASEYF) 25000 25.88 (-0.11)          Vegas: A Love Story (VALVS) 1 10.10 (+0.27)          Project Hail Mary (PRJHM) 134682 210.18 (-3.46)          Vegas: A Love Story (VALVS) 1 10.10 (+0.27)          Mamma Mia 3 (MAMI3) 150000 30.43 (+0.01)          Robert Downey Jr. (RDOWN) 25000 224.29 (-0.50)          Young Washington (YWASH) 24999 29.84 (-0.12)          Clarissa (CLRIS) 100000 5.16 (-0.11)          Heat 2 (HEAT2) 30825 57.92 (-0.02)          Dynamic Duo (DYDUO) 140000 102.89 (-1.70)          Glen Powell (GPOWE) 25000 80.79 (-25.27)          Iman Vellani (IVELL) 25000 35.00 (0.00)          Mouse (MOUSE) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Joel Edgerton (JEDGE) 25000 15.58 (+0.09)          Glen Powell (GPOWE) 25000 80.79 (-25.27)          The Mummy 4 (MUMY5) 10130 92.29 (+0.81)          Alone at Dawn aka Combat Control (ADAWN) 150000 20.84 (+0.15)          Thomasin McKenzie (TMCKE) 25000 12.65 (-0.60)          Patrick Stewart (PSTEW) 25000 64.87 (-0.25)          Topher Grace (TGRAC) 25000 21.18 (+0.18)          Mouse (MOUSE) 150000 2.00 (0.00)          Sunny (SUNNY) 150000 17.62 (-0.04)          Georgina Campbell (GCAMP) 25000 16.00 (-1.74)          Glen Powell (GPOWE) 25000 80.79 (-25.27)          Jessica Henwick (JHENW) 25000 10.69 (-0.16)          Ed Harris (EHARR) 25000 53.72 (+0.79)          Georgina Campbell (GCAMP) 25000 16.00 (-1.74)          Margaret Qualley (MQUAL) 25000 7.65 (-0.16)          Margaret Qualley (MQUAL) 25000 7.65 (-0.16)          Bedford Park (BEDFP) 150000 1.32 (-0.02)          Ciaran Hinds (CHIND) 25000 53.71 (-1.41)          The Mummy 4 (MUMY5) 39870 92.29 (+0.81)          Jessica Henwick (JHENW) 25000 10.69 (-0.16)          Archangel (ARCNG) 15000 15.42 (0.00)          Jessica Henwick (JHENW) 25000 10.69 (-0.16)          Dynamic Duo (DYDUO) 2000 102.89 (-1.70)