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What is a Christian Fundamentalist? websch01ar Oct 29, 05:02

Jerry Falwell & Pat Robertson are two examples. Link attached. RotoHockeyYTD2012 Oct 29, 05:41

I am sure you know this already, but someone who follows a literal reading of the Bible. (So, for example, someone who believes Roger More Oct 29, 05:55

I am a Southern Baptist and we believe the Bible to be the inherent Word of God. So I qualify? {nm} websch01ar Oct 29, 06:08

I don't know. Do some research into fundamentalism and figure out how closely they align with your beliefs, I guess. Roger More Oct 29, 06:27

fundamentalism as defined by packer varies greatly from fundamentalism as defined by robertson. {nm} forlorne Oct 29, 06:35

I could care less about Robertson and Falwell. But ppl here should know that websch01ar Oct 29, 07:23

Let's not forget that this whole discussion originated from labelling and poorly constructed argument. Roger More Oct 29, 07:57

I've not been intolerant. websch01ar Oct 29, 08:07

I'm seeing a lot of "don't label us" and not a lot of "don't label them". You haven't said anything intolerant (and neither has forlorne) Roger More Oct 29, 08:30

think of it terms of a spectrum of beliefs. Fundamentalism can be defined as those who believe in one extreme side of the spectrum Moviesnob Oct 29, 12:10

I hear ya, but some use the term as a slur. That is the part I take issue with. websch01ar Oct 29, 12:57

why is belief in a specific set of facts "extreme"? {nm} forlorne Oct 29, 14:06

something has to be. on a scale of 1-10, the two extremes are 1 and 10. There's no connotation to the word "extreme" in this context {nm} Moviesnob Oct 29, 14:44

Roger, as re: below, i can seperate what people do and an actual belief system, my point was this was the president forlorne Oct 29, 06:33

Roger, as re: below, i can seperate what people do and an actual belief system, my point was this was the president forlorne Oct 29, 06:33

Roger, as re: below, i can seperate what people do and an actual belief system, my point was this was the president forlorne Oct 29, 06:33

I only posted that once! {nm} forlorne Oct 29, 06:34

I saw in an earlier discussion, you were able to differentiate your own faith from the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition. Why don't you Roger More Oct 29, 06:39

I do. That's not my point, it is that this currently appears to currently be mainstream practice in much of the world i.e. forlorne Oct 29, 07:21

Bad people doing bad things. And just like the Crusades, the situation in Egypt is also more complex than many realise. Roger More Oct 29, 07:33

The president is from the Muslim Brotherhood. They represent one party, not the whole Egypt, and certainly not the whole Muslim world. {nm} Antibody Oct 29, 10:08

The president of a country does not represent a country? {nm} forlorne Oct 29, 11:45

Country, not religion. Reagan called USSR an Evil Empire. GW called Iran, Iraq and North Korea 'Axis of Evil'. {nm} Antibody Oct 29, 11:46

are you really equating calling north korea evil with publicly praying for the destruction of all jews? {nm} forlorne Oct 29, 14:10

Morsi didn't say it. Many Arabs are against the creation of Israel in Palenstine and Egypt has lost wars to Israel. Antibody Oct 29, 14:20

There are moderates and secularists in Egypt who don't agree with the Muslim Brotherhood ledership. {nm} Antibody Oct 29, 11:49

True. But, who elected the leadership? {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Oct 29, 12:40

egypt is trying to move to democracy, lets give them the benefit of the doubt for now it wont be a dictarship Moviesnob Oct 29, 12:44

Does President Obama represent all your views? {nm} Antibody Oct 29, 13:00

Again missing the point. If our president publicly prayed for the destruction of all muslims, i and the entire world would be screaming. forlorne Oct 29, 14:05

I'm not making excuses. It is bad, but the point is it does not represent all Muslims. {nm} Antibody Oct 29, 14:31

I think you have to be patient with Egypt and the other Arab Spring countries. RogerMore Oct 29, 13:03

The MF is more a loosely organized group that a single party in a nation. websch01ar Oct 29, 13:00

Obviously, your IM is America's prerogative, but the State Department would be looking at issues like "is the aid money going to things we RogerMore Oct 29, 13:16

Personally, I am all for closing foreign military bases and restricting aid whether financial or military. {nm} websch01ar Oct 30, 05:02

The term was used re xians in response to liberal theologians, to mean those who hold certain beliefs to be factual forlorne Oct 29, 06:28

i disagree with the "literal reading" definition, what does a literal reading mean? there are many portions that are forlorne Oct 29, 06:30

I can see your point here. {nm} Roger More Oct 29, 06:43

could someone here just say it is really bad for the president of egypt to do that, instead of making excuses and obfuscations? forlorne Oct 29, 14:08

You mean like I did here, yesterday? RogerMore Oct 29, 14:25

(Friday, I mean) {nm} RogerMore Oct 29, 14:25

Ryback Got Screw by Referee by kicking his private part. Cm Punk win the champion mike255 Oct 28, 19:59

Damenchipguy Thunder trading Harden not the best move in the short term but what do you think? {nm} blaze223 Oct 28, 13:14

seriously, Harden is a greedy bastard. wouldnt accept a 55.5 mil deal, only 4.5 mil short of the max deal, so now we goes from a contender Moviesnob Oct 28, 14:18

At first there were alot of upset OKC fans, but when neg. factors came out the venom is turning towards Harden. damenchipguy Oct 28, 15:03

Did i read that the Thunder had $200 million tied up in Westbrook and Durant thats why there was not anymore blaze223 Oct 29, 13:08

If I understand correctly, to give the max it would have cost additional $30 Mil in luxury tax. Fans are on the fence but how much is enough {nm} damenchipguy Oct 30, 14:24

HUFFPOST: Canada's 100th Grey Cup - Justin Bieber & Carly Rae Jepsen Will Perform At Halftime Show. RotoHockeyYTD2012 Oct 27, 19:59

Also Marianas Trench & Gordon Lightfoot. Pre-Game Show - Burton Cummings & Johnny Reid. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Oct 27, 20:02

100!...the Super Bowl is like a baby compared to that {nm} tealfan Oct 28, 10:07

Mockingbird Lane.... yikes! {nm} RazorHawk Oct 26, 19:43

I found it oddly intringuing but not at all what I was expecting. Defintetly in the 'Pushing Daisies' odd style. I almost JDolphin Oct 26, 20:57

They won't, this was the pilot that NBC rejected taking to series. {nm} DTravel Oct 26, 21:47

Just saw the documentary 'Hellbound?'. Made by Saskatchewan director Kevin Miller. RotoHockeyYTD2012 Oct 26, 17:24

Interesting discourse about the three main beliefs - Eternal Torment, Annihilationism & Universalism. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Oct 26, 17:26

Anybody catch South Park? It is true that in my rural area there is not enough band-width or speed to stream movies, very funny episode. {nm} damenchipguy Oct 26, 14:32

i suspect there is something personal between Trey and Matt and Redbox {nm} Moviesnob Oct 26, 14:45

Judging by 'South Park', there something personal between Trey & Matt and the rest of reality. :P {nm} DTravel Oct 27, 11:21

Islander, Gungan Style by FOD. Antibody Oct 26, 14:29

Meesa kinda laughing. Meesa think that not bom-bad :) {nm} rosemary's islander Oct 27, 06:44

I also perceive the sky is mostly blue, and the sun rises in the east. I did NOT say anything about the majority of muslims. I did say that edzep - Port Monkey! Oct 26, 13:02

Procide some factual numbers to back up your claim, otherwise it's just your opinion. {nm} Antibody Oct 26, 13:06

You guys always think you can win an arguement about common sense and perception by calling for citations. Most people can see the truth. edzep - Port Monkey! Oct 26, 13:23

The point is Islamic Fundamentalists do not represent all Muslims, just as Christian Fundamentalists do not represent all Christians. {nm} Antibody Oct 26, 13:40

Very good. Now, we agree. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Oct 26, 13:45

I thought that point was pretty clear throughout these threads. {nm} RogerMore Oct 26, 13:59

So did I. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Oct 26, 14:00

Then I don't understand your argument below. {nm} RogerMore Oct 26, 14:02

you are speaking from your perspective. The problem is when you say "we can all see". You can't speak for all of us Moviesnob Oct 26, 13:43

I am a cultural Jew who doesnt believe in god. I can see how there's craziness and extreme behavior in most religions and "isms" Moviesnob Oct 26, 13:48

This is rare - agreeing with the Moviesnob. Totally agree about differences within relative to outside. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Oct 26, 17:06

yeah, I'm not so bad after all {nm} Moviesnob Oct 26, 19:24

I just read RogerMore's HSX profile...lol...not that I doubt a single word of it :D {nm} tealfan Oct 26, 08:25

by the way, the Lotus Esprit was my first love {nm} tealfan Oct 26, 08:27

interesting in light of recent A4J event here: forlorne Oct 26, 05:43

Obviously, that's disappointing and intolerable, but I think you have to separate "bad people doing bad things" from the actual faith. RogerMore Oct 26, 07:24

But, there is no equivalence of crazy Christians to crazy Muslims. We can see with our own eyes that there are many more of the latter. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Oct 26, 07:38

You're looking at a single point in time - the present. Look back 600 years and you have a different story. RogerMore Oct 26, 08:02

Actually there are Christian equivalents. KKK, White Supremacists, etc. all base much of their hatred on their version of Christianity. {nm} DTravel Oct 26, 09:05

Some would considered fundamentalist Christians like FLDS as crazy too. Fundamentalism is Fundamentalism. {nm} Antibody Oct 26, 09:29

But... we can see with our own eyes that there are many more of the latter. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Oct 26, 09:40

That's your personal perception. The overwhelming majority of muslims are not extreme fundamentalists. {nm} Antibody Oct 26, 10:07

"More" is irrelevant. "Never judge a philosophy by its abuse" - St Augustine, via forlorne {nm} RogerMore Oct 26, 11:00

I don't. There are a similar percentage of "crazies" in any population sample regardless of religion, creed, ethnicity, etc. {nm} DTravel Oct 26, 18:40

That's confirmation bias, dude. {nm} Jane_Citizen Oct 29, 14:03

Christians and Muslims, are still fighting the Crusades. Us ordinary people just are not aware of it. {nm} elchan Oct 26, 07:36

Saw one saying the new translation is "deal with", instead of "destroy". Not that it makes it much better a nightmare on islander street Oct 26, 07:45

ArminTamzarian, you may appreciate this campaign ad, by Obama for America edzep - Port Monkey! Oct 25, 18:25

A stupid joke I couldn't resist. DTravel Oct 25, 14:25

ha!..thanks for the memories :) {nm} tealfan Oct 25, 15:10

Brandon T. Jackson lands lead role In Beverly Hills Cop TV Series as son of Axel Foley Antibody Oct 25, 11:53

Chicago Fire [CHFIRE] gets order for five more scripts RazorHawk Oct 25, 11:13

Ming-Na has been cast in the upcoming SHIELD TV show RazorHawk Oct 25, 10:32

BatSh*t Crazy GOP Senate Candidate Richard Mourdock: Pregnancy From Rape 'Is Something God Intended'. RotoHockeyYTD2012 Oct 24, 22:55

its starting to seem like every single person involved in politics is either stupid or hateful (recent comments by coulter, palin, even islander chainsaw massacre Oct 25, 08:28

DLL: Donald Trump Tries To Stop BBC Airing Documentary 'You've Been Trumped'. Fails - 1.1 Million Viewers. RotoHockeyYTD2012 Oct 24, 06:51

Just got an email to extra in GRACM. Why not? {nm} tatoufan Oct 24, 06:12

If you have the time, go for it! {nm} slappydavid Oct 24, 07:39

cool!...if you do it, tell us what it's like {nm} tealfan Oct 24, 07:52

Wil do, thanks for the support. I am going to see Skyfall on Friday, will let you know what I thought. {nm} tatoufan Oct 24, 13:54

I know KaiGee lives not far from me, but not sure about others here. I have two extra seats to Cloud Atlas tonight in Castleton if anyone lobogotti Oct 24, 05:16

drop me an email if you're interested... lobogotti Oct 24, 05:17

I won't be able to see it until Monday; but that would have been nice. {nm} second gary Oct 24, 19:50

Oh—still in Ithaca, NY, so a bit of a trip, I guess. {nm} second gary Oct 24, 19:50

Ah man, I read this a day late. {nm} avandelay Oct 25, 09:07



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