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Blind faith is illogical. Faith based on evidence is not. Perhaps I have evidence you do not? Or have interpreted the

Posted by: forlorne on Mar 28, 09:25 in response to edzep - Port Monkey!'s post No, no, you're ALL wrong (agnostics excepted)

evidence differently? I was an agnostic that didn't think about the issue much at all until I was over 40, I am a natyral skeptic, and did not have a "religious" upbringing. The evidence examined fairly led me to a conclusion. My "faith" is not blind, it is trust based on evidence and experience.

Time to drop the Atom Bomb in here: All Christians are basically atheists BSmurf Mar 26, 21:34

Over the line. Harassment. Time to scrub. Against code of conduct. {nm} RocketYTD2013 Mar 26, 22:33

Harassment to who? BSmurf has valid points. Why is it ok to make religious arguments, but not atheist ones? eyescovered Mar 27, 06:13

Noted. There is a limit to what kind of discussion is acceptable. This is NOT. We got on A4J's back pretty hard PVL Admin Mar 27, 10:55

PS, by not scrubbbing this post, we all now know Antibody's position on the matter. Pro"thumping is not allowed but Anti"thumping" is OK. {nm} PVL Admin Mar 27, 11:00

Have I scrubbed any of A4J's posts? {nm} Antibody Mar 27, 11:05

Maybe not...but at least you admonished the behavior. silence means consent dear boy, and you silence in spades. {nm} PVL Admin Mar 27, 11:27

I think if you're taking BSmurf's post seriously, you've failed the test. {nm} RogerMore Mar 27, 12:09

You removed A4J from managing the AWARD Fund without notice. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013 Mar 27, 15:40

This unwarranted action caused Tanker to quit HSX (18OCT2012). {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013 Mar 27, 15:41

Psst Antibody Mar 27, 15:52

I'm relieved someone equating homosexuality with rape and pedophila is no longer a fund manager. {nm} Antibody Mar 27, 15:57

Kinsey did it, so why aren't you railing on him too? accountant_4_Jesus Mar 27, 17:05

If Kinsey played this game, you'd have a point - but not until then {nm} JDolphin Mar 28, 00:20

Stop falling back on Kinsey everytime someone refers to science, there have been plenty of studies, all more convincing, since {nm} lapuckfan Mar 28, 16:26

Who are you calling an idiot? The scientific evidence for homosexuality is growing and will be proven in time. Antibody Mar 27, 11:01

Hey, that's great. Thanks for clarifying. next I want to discuss the US's foreign policy and how it amounts to bullying of other countries {nm} RocketYTD2013 Mar 27, 11:20

Then we can discuss gun control, medicare, the flaws in the American constitution, US's altering of actual history in schools, Argo...etc. RocketYTD2013 Mar 27, 11:23

While we're at it,could you please post next week's winning lottery numbers? {nm} PVL Admin Mar 27, 11:26

Shrug. Progress will eventually show who's been standing on the right side of history. {nm} Antibody Mar 27, 11:33

Yep, check out the scientific research of XQ28. I mentioned it to A4J and he never responded because it's hard to beat fact vs fiction. {nm} skamanfu Mar 27, 11:28

I'm still reading about it. Don't assume that just because I don't answer immediately it means I can't respond. accountant_4_Jesus Mar 27, 14:27

Scientific evidence for homosexuality? What does that mean? Scientific evidence that it exists? forlorne Mar 27, 12:39

You believe that there are fellow human beings who are born undesirable? Wow. {nm} Antibody Mar 27, 12:52

that's a silly, inflammatory statement. Cystic fibrosis is genetically based. Does anyone desire it? forlorne Mar 28, 09:19

But saying being born gay is a genetic defect similar to cystic fibrosis isn't? The person didn't chose to be born that way either case. {nm} Antibody Mar 28, 10:56

I did NOT say cystic fibrosis was equivalent to hemosexuality. I said having a genetic predisposition to something does not forlorne Mar 28, 12:42

Who's to say that there may some gay gene(s) that have deseriable evolutuionary traits, like maybe creativity in arts, that benefit society? {nm} Antibody Mar 28, 12:49

No one. I merely said it was not conducive to replicating itself. {nm} forlorne Mar 29, 12:53

No, you originally said beinng genetically predisposed to be homosexual is not desirable. Nothing about replicating. {nm} Antibody Mar 29, 16:34

If you're going to state that, try at least getting to know the circumstances behind a person's decision before you shoot your mouth off. accountant_4_Jesus Mar 27, 14:36

Stephen F Roberts quote avandelay Mar 27, 06:04

+1 {nm} eyescovered Mar 27, 06:13

You should post this quote as the heading. It perfectly sums my opinion. I was going to post this till I read your post. {nm} JDolphin Mar 28, 00:15

You're right, but it was too long. {nm} avandelay Mar 28, 07:35

Here's a good example of BSmurf's point. Go to the 7:20 mark. eyescovered Mar 27, 06:34

Interesting only because this is the crime Rome convicted early Xians of when they wouldn't acknowledge other gods. {nm} forlorne Mar 27, 09:16

As an exercise in logic, utter rot. Claiming all religions get equal %, even if they have 2 adherents as opposed to 2 billion, forlorne Mar 27, 09:21

Your argument is full of conclusions (not facts, but opinions) with no fact to support them. A = C? (where is the +B). PVL Admin Mar 27, 10:58

My final thoughts on all this: you have the freedom to believe what you want to believe and love who you want to love. skamanfu Mar 27, 11:35

In some parts of the world only. Regrettably. {nm} forlorne Mar 27, 12:42

Bashing Christianity is perfectly within the TOS of HSX. Others religions, not so much. Samuel_L_Bronkowitz Mar 27, 14:08

Time to respond with an atom bomb: All atheists are simply agnostic. accountant_4_Jesus Mar 27, 14:10

No, no, you're ALL wrong (agnostics excepted) edzep - Port Monkey! Mar 27, 16:38

How is faith illogical when you exercise it every day? accountant_4_Jesus Mar 27, 16:54

You're conflating faith with knowledge based on interactions (learning) with real people and real objects. edzep - Port Monkey! Mar 27, 17:22

I think there's a difference between faith and trust. {nm} RogerMore Mar 27, 17:26

Oh dear....I hate to burst your bubble.... BUY BONDS 20 Mar 27, 17:27

Blind faith is illogical. Faith based on evidence is not. Perhaps I have evidence you do not? Or have interpreted the forlorne Mar 28, 09:25

You can call it evidence all you want -- I call it willingness to wear rose-colored glasses. edzep - Port Monkey! Mar 28, 11:07

( ^ reply to forlorne) {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Mar 28, 11:08

You call WHAT wearing rose-colored glasses? how can you deny the validity of evidence you are not even aware of? forlorne Mar 28, 12:45

I know how the believers' evidence game is played. Sorry. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Mar 28, 13:19

Wanna wager on that? {nm} forlorne Mar 29, 12:53





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