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glad it had an impact on you and your friends and nice to hear about your transacting in multiple windows.

Posted by: Moviesnob on Aug 22, 11:55 in response to lobogotti's post well before I showed them that post...

thats really the key. Some of netflix shows are produced by studios like Lionsgate (Orange is the New Black) and Sony (House of Cards) so those series are available in other windows and other revenue streams. Most arent, which is again, bad for the whole ecosystem. 

Netflix intentionally downplayed the theatrical of Beast of No Nation and made it very difficult for Bleecker Street to get bookings beyond Landmark. This came back to bite them as they spent millions and millions on an oscar campaign that didnt get much traction due to its lack of theatrical engagement.

Netflix wont let their employees call a theatrical release a theatrical release. They call it "screens" internally. They are determined to change behavior so consumers watch movies on TV and not in theaters. They wont let most their movies play in festivals except for when the producers want to and the producers will handle delivery. They look for a big premiere fest and then thats it.

But the two factors that drive consumers the most for movies - convenience and price - are the two factors that netflix excels at. Its natural for consummers to enjoy netflix for this reason. The issue I have is that Netflix is now dedicated to destroying the other two windows. Then didnt use to be this way and that's what I object to. 

Lobo, we've quit Stranger Things after episode 4 Moviesnob Aug 18, 12:06

doh! sorry to hear it wasn't for you. both movies you're rewatching are great for nostalgia though. {nm} lobogotti Aug 18, 13:47

i should have {nm} slipping jimmy Aug 18, 18:31

The Get Down is well worth it, however slipping jimmy Aug 18, 18:32

problem is i dont have netflix, so I only can see their shows if I know someone from production {nm} Moviesnob Aug 18, 18:40

interesting. I don't know many people that don't have it. any reason? {nm} lobogotti Aug 18, 19:28

1) I prefer to own (i have about 8k movies on various formats) 2) its complicated but I believe Netflix is bad for the industry Moviesnob Aug 18, 21:51

YEAH, Disney has been Rocked Big-Time ever since Netflix showed up. Captain Obvious Aug 18, 22:02

I wrote this about Netflix a little over a year ago which helps explain what I'm saying. If you try being polite, we can discuss further Moviesnob Aug 18, 22:26

Please identify which industry companies have suffered catastrophic losses due solely to the Netflix arrival. {nm} Captain Obvious Aug 18, 22:46

its affecting every indie. You should read what I wrote, it will give you a greater understanding than the question you're asking. Moviesnob Aug 18, 23:00

Read what you wrote. The Numbers undermine your Argument & your Conclusion. <INSIDE>. Captain Obvious Aug 19, 01:08

You may have read it but you missed the parts talking about the shift to broadcast which is the man point. but Moviesnob Aug 19, 06:04

I've noticed one of the articles I cited is gone and its an important one. I have it on evernote and you can read it here Moviesnob Aug 19, 06:22

Netflix is GREAT for the Industry (as opposed to BAD). Amazon is Great for the Industry. <INSIDE>. RotoHockey2013Main Port Aug 19, 20:32

$18 billion in 2015 is a lot less than almost $30 billion in 2006 (right before netflix started streaming), no? Moviesnob Aug 19, 21:49

that's a GREAT read! thank you for sharing. {nm} lobogotti Aug 19, 11:43

talking with some buddies right now about movies and how they're delivered today. got them all reading your blog post. lobogotti Aug 20, 19:50

what are they saying? {nm} Moviesnob Aug 21, 14:02

well before I showed them that post... lobogotti Aug 22, 06:54

glad it had an impact on you and your friends and nice to hear about your transacting in multiple windows. Moviesnob Aug 22, 11:55

these are situations I would have never have even thought about. it's awkward that Netflix is trying to lobogotti Aug 23, 05:47

Yes, but Netflix was just a dvd mail business then. It's still worth more than $50mil today but its a declining business {nm} Moviesnob Aug 23, 08:43

just crazy to think of the "what ifs" {nm} lobogotti Aug 23, 11:09

Sometimes he should change his name to Captain Oblivious, considering you know your stuff on revenue streams skamanfu Aug 19, 14:13

Oh Look - Revenue from Other Streams. Captain Obvious Aug 19, 20:55

I work in the biz. I know most this stuff. MS knows his stuff more than anyone pulling articles that never tell the whole story skamanfu Aug 20, 08:55

thanks! {nm} Moviesnob Aug 19, 22:00

Coveting your Spot. RotoHockey2013Main Port Aug 20, 00:28

Who cares. I'm a buy and hold player that spends less than 10 minutes on here a day. Sorry this is all you have in your life {nm} skamanfu Aug 20, 08:51

Nice article Snob {nm} Dorfman Aug 21, 06:42

do you have Nice Girls Don't Explode? islander Aug 19, 07:50

I dont't! but i do have a good HFS (Holy ****ing ****) section. Probably the weirdest title i have in there is Moviesnob Aug 19, 09:18

id call that a WTF section! funny stuff {nm} kingston trio Aug 19, 09:26

(lol) {nm} islander Aug 19, 09:27

Oh how I miss Cinefamily doing their HFS section... Been a few years, but saw some amazing gems. skamanfu Aug 19, 14:11





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