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G: Through the gates of hell: Trump as America's first declinist president

Posted by: Antibody on Nov 14, 12:29 in response to Qix's post Guardian: A complacent Hollywood ignored rightwing...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/14/president-donald-trump-declinist-american-experiment

Guardian: A complacent Hollywood ignored rightwing radicalism - now movies need to tell the truth. Qix Nov 14, 11:34

Though there plenty of movies that covered post 9-11/Iraq war world issues. Most of them flopped. RogerMore Nov 14, 12:26

True, but mostly if you focus on home runs - & maybe some of the failures merely reflected quality issues? Qix Nov 14, 13:24

Green Zone offered an intelligent perspective, and it flopped. Hurt Locker won Best Picture and Best Director, and made under $20M domestic. RogerMore Nov 14, 17:12

Of course, however I'm optimistic artists will continue to find ways to articulate the current situation & navigate the various obstacles. {nm} Qix Nov 14, 18:33

Definitely true on the artistic side, and maybe we'll see something on the commercial side too. RogerMore Nov 14, 19:49

Jarhead didn't make it's money back (at least no from theaters), Goats was a comedy, Dark Side made 250k {nm} JDolphin Nov 14, 17:21

1) $62m from $72m budget = a wash overall, which was my point. 2) Genre is irrelevant. 3) Won Best Doc & (like Locker) enjoyed an afterlife. {nm} Qix Nov 14, 18:41

the studio only gets abt 50% so that's alot less than a wash. If you want big studios to make these movies they have to make a profit. {nm} JDolphin Nov 14, 20:41

Rule of thumb: gross prodn budget domestically/get yr money back via ancillaries over time. Esp relevant with this cast during DVD boom yrs. {nm} Qix Nov 15, 02:26

G: Through the gates of hell: Trump as America's first declinist president Antibody Nov 14, 12:29

That last paragraph is particularly ominous. This worries me too... Qix Nov 14, 13:43





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