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Green Zone offered an intelligent perspective, and it flopped. Hurt Locker won Best Picture and Best Director, and made under $20M domestic.

Posted by: RogerMore on Nov 14, 17:12 in response to Qix's post True, but mostly if you focus on home runs - & maybe...

Movies like The Kingdom, Body of Lies, etc had big stars and weren't awful (at least, not Lions for Lambs awful) and underperformed.  So did personal stories about returning soldiers like Brothers and In The Valley of Elah. Three Kings was too early - 1999 - and I don't think I've even heard of Taxi to the Dark Side.

But speaking purely from a financial perspective, these are expensive movies with little global appeal. Audiences have shown they want heroic movies - like the movies I mentioned plus Captain Phillips, Zero Dark Thirty - and studio heads have to make movies their audience wants or face their investors.

Guardian: A complacent Hollywood ignored rightwing radicalism - now movies need to tell the truth. Qix Nov 14, 11:34

Though there plenty of movies that covered post 9-11/Iraq war world issues. Most of them flopped. RogerMore Nov 14, 12:26

True, but mostly if you focus on home runs - & maybe some of the failures merely reflected quality issues? Qix Nov 14, 13:24

Green Zone offered an intelligent perspective, and it flopped. Hurt Locker won Best Picture and Best Director, and made under $20M domestic. RogerMore Nov 14, 17:12

Of course, however I'm optimistic artists will continue to find ways to articulate the current situation & navigate the various obstacles. {nm} Qix Nov 14, 18:33

Definitely true on the artistic side, and maybe we'll see something on the commercial side too. RogerMore Nov 14, 19:49

Jarhead didn't make it's money back (at least no from theaters), Goats was a comedy, Dark Side made 250k {nm} JDolphin Nov 14, 17:21

1) $62m from $72m budget = a wash overall, which was my point. 2) Genre is irrelevant. 3) Won Best Doc & (like Locker) enjoyed an afterlife. {nm} Qix Nov 14, 18:41

the studio only gets abt 50% so that's alot less than a wash. If you want big studios to make these movies they have to make a profit. {nm} JDolphin Nov 14, 20:41

Rule of thumb: gross prodn budget domestically/get yr money back via ancillaries over time. Esp relevant with this cast during DVD boom yrs. {nm} Qix Nov 15, 02:26

G: Through the gates of hell: Trump as America's first declinist president Antibody Nov 14, 12:29

That last paragraph is particularly ominous. This worries me too... Qix Nov 14, 13:43





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