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Though if I wanted to get an idea of what's disproportionate, I'd look deeper than a national average..

Posted by: RogerMore on Feb 07, 07:35 in response to jdolphin's post Depends on if you mean disproportionate to the total...

It's an average of all violent crimes, but there are lots of different types of violent crime with different motivations, causes, victims, criminals etc. If you're wanting vigilante revenge against someone who committed a sexual assault, you wouldn't go looking for muggers.

It's also an average across a large country, and different localities have different crimes, and different offenders. Crimes in small towns where people generally know each other, but plenty live in relative isolation are different from crimes in cities where people live in close proximity, but often without knowing their neighbours.

Local policing also has a huge effect - if a community isn't policed effectively, criminals realise they can get away with crimes and crime rates go up. One reason the Chicago murder rate is so high is because Chicago police make arrests in about 20-25% of murder cases. It's this vicious cycle where murderers get away with it, so criminals fighting for territory start to think "we'd better hit them before they hit us", and law-abiding people don't want to go to the police because they might get hit next. Which means that police can't get the info/evidence they need to make arrests, which means murderers think they can continue to get away with murder.

Baron Darcon, I looked up FBI stats from 2017. It shows 58% of violent crime committed by Caucasians and 38% by Black or African Americans. Catzan Feb 06, 18:46

Depends on if you mean disproportionate to the total crimes committed or disproportionate to the population group - Using your stats blacks jdolphin Feb 06, 19:47

Though if I wanted to get an idea of what's disproportionate, I'd look deeper than a national average.. RogerMore Feb 07, 07:35

and a multivariate analysis for related factors like, say, poverty and unemployment professor zovek Feb 07, 10:48

And education opportunities are more limited in poor communities. {nm} Catzan Feb 07, 11:00

Murder is the best crime to look at. Can't juke the stats on murder, but you can on everything else. {nm} MattW Feb 07, 21:13

Homicide rather {nm} MattW Feb 07, 21:13

*makes hand-wavy motion* Not every homicide goes reported - think about unexplained disappearances, runaways, etc RogerMore Feb 08, 09:30

also "homicide" a larger category that includes murder (intentional killings). can also include involuntary manslaughter, gross negligence {nm} professor zovek Feb 08, 13:23

Under reporting affects all categories........... MattW Feb 09, 21:25

Straight stats...you are more likely to experience violence at that hand of a Caucasian than an African American. And I put in my 2 cents Catzan Feb 07, 10:58

at least he's consistently full of poo {nm} Moviesnob Feb 07, 11:25

So I'm guessing you live in an all black neighborhood because that would be much safer {nm} jdolphin Feb 07, 15:08

Mine's 75% black!.So far so good! {nm} Moviesnob Feb 07, 15:59

You know...it depends...I lived at the edge of a ghetto in Baton Rouge, once saw a gun waved about but no violence. Lived in a white Catzan Feb 07, 17:28

...and much more likely by an American Citizen than an Illegal Alien, especially mass murrder {nm} Buy BONDS xXx Feb 08, 00:29





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