Playing & Trading Strategy

WBROX fund weekly update WBROXFund Jun 11, 09:34

Free Hbo and Cinemax This weekend. Check your local cable/Satelline June8/11/2012 {nm} mike255 Jun 10, 15:40

Wrong board... {nm} slappydavid Jun 10, 19:38

any reason you waited until 6pm EST on Sunday to post this (the last 6 hours of the free stations)? {nm} RazorHawk Jun 10, 21:00

for some reason, on Directv, they were still showing for free as of 7 am this Monday morning {nm} daveart Jun 11, 08:36

DirectTv has it free thru the end of the day today. {nm} Oleg Max Jun 11, 11:27

I DVRed 'Set It Off' from HBO last night {nm} AFRAM-The African American Fund Jun 11, 13:26

Free Showtime next weekend! {nm} RazorHawk Jun 12, 08:22

Clocking in at 3 mil on the red right now... It's just one of those days when everything is moving the wrong way... {nm} slappydavid Jun 09, 08:35

Bit of a wash for me, but managing to eak out a small gain. Shorted PROME.OW @$57, just before halt. elchan Jun 09, 12:01

Woo Hoo! {nm} elchan Jun 10, 07:04

same with me. just cant be bothered at minute as im always in the red {nm} swordfish1 Jun 09, 15:47

For some but not for others {nm} laujer Jun 10, 10:07

Yeah, I was obviously talking about myself, venting the frustration... {nm} slappydavid Jun 10, 10:08

Congratulations to JMT and SQUEL for hitting 100. Nice job. {nm} BUY StarBondFund Jun 09, 05:48

Well done JMT! {nm} slappydavid Jun 09, 08:35

Someone should write a tutorial along the lines of How to Make a $1Billion in 1 Year or Less. Dave3626 Jun 09, 05:45

the people who make 1B in a year are too busy glued to their trades to get away for anything else {nm} islander Jun 09, 06:33

Well, the FIRST billion in a year would be tough. Subsequent billions are much easier (just like in the real world) {nm} BSmurf Jun 09, 08:12

As far as I know (I could be wrong) but Grory is the only one *I* know of, who's done that. {nm} Flash Jun 09, 08:34

Grory is the only one who has done it from 2 million. I think there are others who have done it from higher baselines. {nm} PVL Admin Jun 09, 09:12

btw, Rocket, when I made the inital comment, I had something like the PVL tutorials in mind. You've provided a great resource with those. {nm} Dave3626 Jun 09, 09:55

You should go to the Movies board more, Flash. Rumor has it they're making a movie about you. {nm} Dave3626 Jun 09, 09:57

and that's when you could only buy 50000 shares at a time... seems easier for newbies now.... catch a goog opener and you can double your $ {nm} Tarheels Jun 12, 01:09

**good {nm} Tarheels Jun 12, 01:10

There's only a handful of people who've done it, you should set a more realistic goal... {nm} slappydavid Jun 09, 08:38

$999M then maybe? {nm} Dave3626 Jun 09, 09:17

500M would be considered great IMO... {nm} slappydavid Jun 09, 16:35

I won't argue that. {nm} Dave3626 Jun 09, 17:28

Okay, here goes: First, make a billion dollars. Second, do it in 1 year or less. Tanker Jun 09, 08:58

Going out on a limb here, I know, buuuuut, I think a tutorial is usually more in-depth than what you just put forth.. {nm} Dave3626 Jun 09, 09:52

I'm having problems with step #1. {nm} elchan Jun 09, 11:57

Step one is always the hardest. Btw elchan, do you play the news? Good, quick way to beef up the port. {nm} Dave3626 Jun 09, 13:20

Dave3626, you mean, "Buy on rumour, sell on news"?(or the equiv. in shorts) What are good sources of news? elchan Jun 09, 14:36

What I mean is......... Dave3626 Jun 09, 15:34

Good tip. Do you find it easier than playing the Weekend Openers? What's typical pop, percentage-wise, you can get out of news like that? {nm} elchan Jun 09, 16:03

A more experienced player would ddo better giving you the hard numbers, but.......... Dave3626 Jun 09, 16:17

Post Script Dave3626 Jun 09, 17:31

I'll give it a try now that I have a few extra millions to play with. {nm} elchan Jun 09, 18:25

Just tried this on MOBYD and HRTSE. Working out very well today. ;-) Thnx! {nm} elchan Jun 11, 16:59

New to "shorting" so if i short Prometheus OW at 57 and it makes 40 then i make 17 per share? {nm} CommonAnomaly Jun 08, 13:33

Yes. {nm} PVL Admin Jun 08, 13:45

Interesting, so you've been playing for 4 years, and build a $35M portfolio, without making a short trade? {nm} elchan Jun 08, 16:41

I played with friends years ago and wasn't very serious. Started again a couple weeks ago and learning for real. {nm} CommonAnomaly Jun 08, 17:13

have you ever readt hrough the glossary at the bottom of the page? it helps islander Jun 07, 06:15

VVV goes there. whoops {nm} islander Jun 07, 06:16

Thank you Ttaaggggeerr Jun 07, 06:22

you're welcome. main things: remember the $250M cap (like even though avengers has done over 500M, only the first 250 counts towards those islander Jun 07, 06:35

Starbonds - How are they Calculated? Ttaaggggeerr Jun 07, 05:39

Long discussion below with some interesting links to KaiGee web site. You should have a look. elchan Jun 08, 16:03

Hoping to preserve my first million dollar day so no one sell any movie stocks I own for the next 3 hours!! {nm} CommonAnomaly Jun 06, 20:52

1 1/2 hrs to go - Good Luck!! {nm} JDolphin Jun 06, 22:26

lol, ive just got back into top 500 position. so like you no one sell anything please {nm} swordfish1 Jun 07, 01:33

What if they sell something you are holding short? {nm} PVL Admin Jun 07, 05:26

well its all gone wrong today. one step forward, 2 million backwards ouch {nm} swordfish1 Jun 07, 08:08

I hear ya. 1M backwards for me. {nm} Dave3626 Jun 07, 09:56

make that 1.5 {nm} Dave3626 Jun 07, 10:48

With so many billionaires, and near billionaires in this game, do little investors like myself really affect the game? {nm} elchan Jun 06, 13:55

Yes, because billionaires cannot buy more shares of a stock than you can. {nm} dioneta Jun 06, 14:02

True, but if you have enough money, you can buy more of different stock, and even play both side, short and long, on two related movies. {nm} elchan Jun 06, 15:19

Yes.. But they cannot affect individual stock movement more than you.. and you play "short" OR "long" not simultaneously {nm} dioneta Jun 06, 16:47

You can play short AND long. For instance I feel that MADG3 is too low, so play long and if I feel that MADG3 will take a bite elchan Jun 06, 17:44

? Paul2k Jun 06, 17:56

Yes, sometimes, I scare myself. Here's the logic: elchan Jun 06, 18:09

But they aren't dependent on each other like that. You're returning to your zero-sum supposition, which doesn't hold here. Paul2k Jun 06, 18:23

There's definitely a correlation in gross for a weekend between the grosses of movies opening the same weekend. elchan Jun 06, 18:34

Oh there is? Good luck finding that. I'm sure the movie studios and tracking firms and box office predictors would love to see your findings Paul2k Jun 06, 19:53

This is true. And I would take that approach in real life, since I want to be efficient and get my job done quickly. elchan Jun 07, 06:59

lot of jumps in logic alfpaulytd2012 Jun 06, 18:26

Wish it was all logic based, but we're talking consumer behaviour, and statistical analysis... elchan Jun 06, 18:49

see, that's where you always sound like such a noob alfpaulytd2012 Jun 06, 19:00

But I am a noob, not trying to hide anything. What about the post-AVNGR slump? elchan Jun 06, 19:18

*banging head on desk* {nm} Paul2k Jun 06, 19:55

Please, no need to hurt yourself over me. ;-) {nm} elchan Jun 06, 20:10

I'd argue the point but its kind of pointless alfpaulytd2012 Jun 06, 23:56

Come one guys, why so negative. This is a discussion board, and we are discussing things. I don't to claim that I know anything. elchan Jun 07, 06:45

elchan, there have been FAQs and tutorials put out by players on pretty much all aspects of HSX. There used to be a half dozen websites Paul2k Jun 07, 07:05

Thought that was what I was doing, asking question, through out some ideas, getting responses. elchan Jun 07, 07:58

I think initially, you came on a little strong and full of declarations, making it seem like you thought you knew everything, even if that Paul2k Jun 07, 09:00

it only happens when someone doesn't honestly have a question alfpaulytd2012 Jun 07, 09:55

Not to belabor a point, but stock performances are not linked in a zero sum fashion... even if you think they are. dioneta Jun 07, 10:21

I promise you that unless they inherited a port, every billionaire started off with a $2M just like you did. Tanker Jun 06, 14:04

Every investor is sacred, every investor is great islander Jun 06, 14:13

I know I am, but my who portfolio is probably what you would commission on a trade. ;-) {nm} elchan Jun 06, 15:20

Must be late on my payments, my ISP is skipping words and letters. {nm} elchan Jun 06, 15:34

That was a beautiful sentence. :) {nm} Paul2k Jun 06, 17:36

Duh, henglish, I lern good time. {nm} elchan Jun 06, 18:13

Easy for you to say. {nm} Tanker Jun 06, 17:40

Well, this is eye opening. Anyways, as I said I like playing this game, and enjoy coming up with my theories on how I think things can work elchan Jun 07, 11:59

if it's true that a trader has to keep discovering/shifting strategies as port size grows, then I don't think you have to worry about Dave3626 Jun 07, 15:59

4 billion dollars!!! JohnTEQP Jun 06, 09:01

Huzzah! {nm} Tanker Jun 06, 09:24

well done dude {nm} swordfish1 Jun 06, 10:28

WHOA!!! Awesome! Congrats! {nm} PRodNano Jun 06, 12:13

congrats! {nm} tealfan Jun 06, 12:43

Mazel tov! :) {nm} accountant_4_Jesus Jun 07, 16:08

Congrats.Keep it up {nm} laujer Jun 10, 10:12

Commission Ttaaggggeerr Jun 06, 06:03

In total? Just one trade? Last month? {nm} Flash Jun 06, 07:38

any of the above? {nm} Ttaaggggeerr Jun 06, 09:08

1% is taken on every trade. Only thing commission free is the cashout when a movie delists. {nm} Dave3626 Jun 06, 09:30

One more exception i forgot to mention (inside) Dave3626 Jun 06, 09:32

In Your Trade History. Amount - (Quantity * Price) = Commission {nm} Antibody Jun 06, 10:02

Thank you very much! Ttaaggggeerr Jun 06, 10:11

Archive of old HSX website from 12 years ago 121Jigowatts Jun 05, 14:13

Click on "impatient" if that doesn't load for you right away {nm} 121Jigowatts Jun 05, 14:14

Ah yes, our Orange period. Miss so many of those folk :( {nm} MojaveMeg Jun 05, 15:14

I think that screenshot was even pre-orange period... {nm} Oleg Max Jun 05, 15:17

MojaveMeg HSX Orange period = everything that happened at HSX when the logo was an orange circle RazorHawk Jun 05, 15:24

Just after 9/11.... 121Jigowatts Jun 05, 15:41

The logo changed from orange to this jazzy looking graphic between Jan-March of 2002 121Jigowatts Jun 05, 15:56

That archive page came even before this orange logo. {nm} Antibody Jun 05, 16:19

Yes right. I guess in 2000 I'd only been playing for 3 years and the old-timers like Full Merino and AB were our trading gods. {nm} MojaveMeg Jun 05, 23:02

*sniff* {nm} Flash Jun 06, 07:37

Ha, look at the price of those starbonds. Them were the days. Although, they had done away with the bond yields by that point. {nm} Paul2k Jun 05, 15:46

Not long before I arrived. But, I wouldn't remember, anyway; I've only seen the HSX home page about 5 times in all these years. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Jun 05, 18:02

SLJAC has dropped in price quite a bit. He was at H$1,706.00. {nm} elchan Jun 05, 18:48

Ah the music exchange even more unpredictable than films {nm} blaze223 Jun 06, 01:06

Yeah, I remember trying to figure that out when I started my first port. I feel like I made some $ of the Chili Peppers... {nm} stevie1der328 Jun 06, 06:34

There's a music exchange? Does it still exist? {nm} elchan Jun 06, 10:31

The music exchange is long gone. For a while they kept the all time leaderboard up. {nm} Buy StarBond Fund 18 Jun 07, 07:45

Anyone remember that guy Treehard who spent all his time Checked Out Jun 08, 10:59

Stuck in a rut Dave3626 Jun 05, 11:05

Having spent 13 years to get to $200 million but significantly less to do the next $158 i may not be an expert blaze223 Jun 05, 11:22

I would say constantly assessing where I'm at in the game helps me alfpaulytd2012 Jun 05, 12:32

I have no quick reply for "quick reply" box except to say "more inside" Dave3626 Jun 05, 13:17

i'd say that JSEGE and the other 2 big % bonds yesterday were more circumstance driven alfpaulytd2012 Jun 05, 13:58

Dave - Know exactly where to place your funds. Get in tpoch with me {nm} scott108 Jun 06, 05:46

Part of the fun of the game is to adjust your strategy as your port grows... slappydavid Jun 05, 13:17

Yeah, for a while slappy and I had the same strategy and did really well, but it gets exhausting and you start having lots of cash lay aroun PRodNano Jun 05, 13:24

The "old strategy" was what exactly? If you don;t me asking, that is.. {nm} Dave3626 Jun 05, 13:27

"mind me asking" ^^ {nm} Dave3626 Jun 05, 13:28

Inside PRodNano Jun 05, 15:03

What was the adjustment that you made? {nm} Dave3626 Jun 05, 13:26

I basically started investing in openers some months in advance... slappydavid Jun 05, 13:48

I almost left this game as got so fed up with losing money. now ive changebmy playing style and im excited again. keep going. {nm} swordfish1 Jun 05, 14:02

You're stuck in a rut? That's interesting because we started our accounts at nearly the same time and we have almost the same $. 121Jigowatts Jun 05, 14:19

I take that back..... 121Jigowatts Jun 05, 14:30

Quick protip for beginners: diversification is not a good strategy at the start. If you find a sure thing, make sure you go all in. {nm} stevie1der328 Jun 05, 08:48

how would a new player know what is a "sure thing" so they could make sure to "go all in"? {nm} RazorHawk Jun 05, 08:55

Starbonds, openers on Friday and Saturday when numbers come in. You are correct though, there are more "sure things" that come w experience. {nm} PRodNano Jun 05, 08:58

Well, as a beginner I can say a sure thing is usually wait until Friday, and the estimates start coming in. elchan Jun 05, 09:33

What finally got me over the hump of being cash poor was HPOT8. Reshorted, sold off slow movers to raise enough to forlorne Jun 05, 09:38

I do not agree with this tip. {nm} PVL Admin Jun 05, 11:22

Looking back on it, yeah, it's vague, overly simplistic, and not very helpful. It made sense in my head when I said it. {nm} stevie1der328 Jun 05, 13:41

In my WBROX fund port I reshort all the time (click through for thought process) MisterTony Jun 05, 13:47

Today I will become a BILLIONAIRE when SWHTM.OW pays out. Fingers crossed I still will be when the day ends. {nm} osmosis2003 Jun 04, 11:37

Well done anyway maybe it will stick tomorrow if not today {nm} blaze223 Jun 04, 11:43

well done dude. it doesn't get any easier once you become a billionaire {nm} swordfish1 Jun 04, 12:53

good for you :) {nm} Jane_Citizen Jun 04, 16:00

with a million dollar cushion now ...congrats! {nm} tealfan Jun 04, 19:01

Mazel tov! :) {nm} accountant_4_Jesus Jun 05, 03:06

Kudos to ya...and if you DO make it, the keys to the Exec. Washroom will be sent to ya! :-) {nm} Flash Jun 05, 08:36

Any chnace of getting a second washroom? There are over 1400 of us sharing just the one... {nm} forlorne Jun 05, 09:40

Just hit 300MM...a banner day!! {nm} stiv Jun 04, 09:25

way to go there, i am watching as i am 58M in front {nm} blaze223 Jun 04, 09:38

raise the roof! {nm} tealfan Jun 04, 10:15

Mazel tov! :) {nm} accountant_4_Jesus Jun 05, 03:06

What is the threshold for wide release? Yukos Jun 04, 01:39

A limited release is less than 650 screens {nm} eyescovered Jun 04, 03:58

650 Theaters {nm} RazorHawk Jun 04, 06:05

The African American Fund [AFRAM] is now halfway to delist (after 3.5 months) {nm} AFRAM-The African American Fund Jun 03, 15:47

Half way point is 44.72M.....why you ask? ... Buy StarBond Fund 18 Jun 03, 19:08

Awesome calculation. The Roto tips his hat. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Jun 04, 17:50

So, CTHER will be competing against herself next week SNHTM vs PROME. Any particular trading strategy for situations like that? {nm} elchan Jun 03, 13:39

dude, you keep asking these sort of questions and the HSX gods wont be pleased.just go with your gut instinct {nm} swordfish1 Jun 03, 15:22

I don't believe in gods. ;-) {nm} elchan Jun 03, 19:24

I'd give you a legit answer but it would come off ****y/mean so I'd just suggest learning how bonds work alfpaulytd2012 Jun 03, 22:09

Well, thanks for the tid bit. Then from my calculations of the CTHER starbond, she should get adjusted to $39.23... elchan Jun 04, 08:35

ok, now question alfpaulytd2012 Jun 04, 09:08

Depends, in RL, 1.117% is good. Since I'm just starting, I don't know yet what's considered a good ROI, yet. elchan Jun 04, 09:27

Assuming you don't have enough to invest in everything, start with the highest ROI of bonds delisting soon and forlorne Jun 04, 09:59

Why are the bonds, never at what I calculate them to be? elchan Jun 04, 12:16

guess its not clear in the glossary....starbonds adjust the tuesday after the movie they are attached to delists alfpaulytd2012 Jun 04, 12:55

meant 3 weekends from now after the 4th weekend of wide release in that 1st sentence {nm} alfpaulytd2012 Jun 04, 12:56

Yes, I'm getting it. Using MPFEI is a better example. I calculated her to be at $55.87 with May 25th gross for DRKSH. elchan Jun 04, 14:50

would say you're beginning to grasp the basics alfpaulytd2012 Jun 04, 16:06

Here's an easy way to play bonds. After you've grasped the fundamental ideas that alfpaul wrote about (which is important) you go to Dave3626 Jun 04, 17:29

Dave, that's a great link. So they're estimating the adjust price of CTHER to be $65.14, post PROME. elchan Jun 04, 17:41

A note: Kaigee's starbond adjust calcs are done based off of the market price at the last website update (noted on his homepage). Since he Paul2k Jun 04, 18:08

I don't see a place where the custom delist price can be added. That would be very useful. {nm} elchan Jun 04, 18:32

On Kaigee's page for the movie stock, right at the top, you can enter in your own values, overriding his... Jane_Citizen Jun 04, 21:38