Playing & Trading Strategy

Could someone attempt to identify any reasoning underlying a short for either the put or call for the Hunger Games $125MM opening weekend. DTXbro Mar 14, 09:34

spite ports? but otherwise, no non-sequel has ever opened that big before. could it open that big? yes. would every player think so? no. islander Mar 14, 10:24

or i misread your question. oops :) yeah that i dont know. maybe they wont be around later on? {nm} islander Mar 14, 10:25

I can (I hope). DTravel Mar 14, 11:59

The max profit from shorting a H$2 option is H$40,000, while the potential loss in huge if HGAME opens much greater or much less than 125. {nm} Antibody Mar 14, 12:26

Not claiming its a risk-free option, just that some people will grub every penny they can. ;) {nm} DTravel Mar 14, 16:07

But your reasoning was flawed. It's not "doubling your bet". {nm} Antibody Mar 14, 16:21

I think I said "kind of doubling" - didn't mean to imply it was an exact doubling. *shrug* My mistake. {nm} DTravel Mar 14, 16:50

I understood what you meant. dave3626 Mar 15, 09:46

I knew what you meant, but it could be misleading to newbies to equate like you did. Buying Put =/ Shorting Call Buying Call =/ Shorting Put {nm} Antibody Mar 15, 10:11

You've probably answered this elsewhere at another time, but ..why did you drop "D.Mac"? {nm} dave3626 Mar 15, 10:52

I just decided to stick to my username after the HSX redesign introduced the profile page. {nm} Antibody Mar 15, 12:42

You may continue to hope, but it still won't make sense. It's a sucker bet that even most suckers would avoid {nm} DTXbro Mar 14, 16:48

So, haven't played in about 3 years....if I'm starting out again...what are the current rules? Will Hunting Mar 14, 07:58

No commission on delists, no no-commission or free trading times. {nm} DTravel Mar 14, 08:39

Cool, thanks for the response. {nm} Will Hunting Mar 14, 10:12

One other question --- HSX used to have a data-feed that listed every stock in one basic table...instead of 50 per....does that exist? {nm} Will Hunting Mar 14, 10:37

Not that I know of, but I've only been here less than 2 years so more experience players may know of something. {nm} DTravel Mar 14, 11:52

KaiGee's site has all the movie stock symbols and names in 2 groups w/Release date and without. JDolphin Mar 14, 16:26

If you have a portfolio between 10 MIL and 3.5 BIL and want to compare your performance with players at your level, then this is for you. PVL Admin Mar 14, 02:36

Port Value Leagues rock! {nm} slappydavid Mar 14, 05:10

How do I compare my rank to people actively playing? everyone around my rank hasnt placed atrade in over a year jtempkin Mar 13, 20:15

Might I suggest joining a league? (link) PVL Admin Mar 13, 20:48

Join The Trading House Of Ill Repute - it has some very good new players in it. Check it out. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Mar 14, 02:07

Congratulations to KIDS fund! Quietly delisted today. Can't wait for KIDS fund 6 {nm} PVL Admin Mar 13, 15:00

How does a movie that opens on wednesday adjusted opening weekend? (nm) shsboog81 Mar 12, 00:40

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday openers: [Week Days B.O. + (2.7*Box Office Friday-Sunday)] PVL Admin Mar 12, 00:46

Does someone want to handle my account? ronex Mar 11, 18:20

I'd take it. You could probably sell it on ebay. People would be willing to pay for your portfolio. {nm} 121Jigowatts Mar 11, 19:19

I would be interested. I have 3 of my own and I check them all reg. {nm} Jubbagga Mar 13, 11:22

Let me guess what the names of your multiple accounts are: Zhiago33, Jubbagga and ? (hint?) {nm} PVL Admin Mar 13, 13:51

lost ground yet again.all i can do is keep calm and carry on {nm} swordfish1 Mar 11, 10:58

same here. losing weekends. live and learn. {nm} perply1 Mar 11, 11:15

still not as bad as when i first started but it still hurts when ive been working hard all week to gain ground {nm} swordfish1 Mar 11, 11:54

Heads up!!! Daylight Saving Time change. Take note of new game time relative to your local time. {nm} osmosis2003 Mar 11, 04:18

ok in uk its back end of the month.same for usa or different? {nm} swordfish1 Mar 11, 06:50

Different here in the U.S. now...Congress moved it up to 2nd weekend in March now...used to be last weekend in March. {nm} Flash Mar 11, 07:27

thanks flash.looks like things just got harder for me now lol {nm} swordfish1 Mar 11, 08:34

Don't forget the Upper US, which went along with the change....We fall back first weekend of November {nm} Buy StarBond Fund 18 Mar 11, 09:39

I'm really frustrated! I'll place an order for MAX sell or short and it won't go through! I repeat and repeat and lose fake money as the... Ryan_Stewart Mar 09, 22:18

You are not representing the situation accurately. Shorting and selling will go through just fine if the stock price changes PVL Admin Mar 09, 22:33

thanks Rockey123. You're absolutley right. Beer and trading don't mix well. I start to point fingers when I have a buzz on. {nm} Ryan_Stewart Mar 09, 22:37

I'll do some simple math and keep the finger pointed at myself next time. {nm} Ryan_Stewart Mar 09, 22:38

But, dude!! did you see OMARS react to the latest estimate??? Lost 600K trying to get a trade thu!! {nm} Ryan_Stewart Mar 09, 22:39

I did see that...fortunately for me, I saw the DL post before the forum post so I had already shifted my positions before most people saw it {nm} PVL Admin Mar 09, 23:29

Uhhh...I meant thru...Molson Golden!! dude!! {nm} Ryan_Stewart Mar 09, 22:40

In HSX, MAX means shares available not affordable. So you need to know how much you can afford if you want the trade to go thru the 1st time {nm} JDolphin Mar 09, 22:33

Not right, "Buy Max" does mean "buy the maximum you can afford at this moment before orders are executed" (further inside) DTravel Mar 10, 10:42

But if you are short on cash and you want the trade to go thru, you're better off not using Max, but calculating a lesser amount {nm} JDolphin Mar 10, 13:47

For a fast moving stock, the price difference on a Max affordable could make it unaffordable at trade process time, {nm} JDolphin Mar 10, 13:49

I think it would take a HUGE price diff for that to happen, I've had trades go thru that cost $10K+ more than I had in cash. DTravel Mar 10, 14:47

Happens all the time for me. SOMETIMES it will let me go negative, but OFTEN it just fails. {nm} PVL Admin Mar 10, 16:03

Fund Blog SCIFund Mar 09, 09:00

cool...thx! {nm} tealfan Mar 09, 13:03

[SCIFI] I blame myself for buying without investigating the manager; but the timing of your "bulletin" is annoying. {nm} kibitzer Mar 10, 16:58

I've moved around 8% of my portfolio and updated my radars. monsieurcinema Mar 08, 16:39

not supposed to talk about which way you are holding things, except during gutcheck time {nm} lapuckfan Mar 08, 16:49

I think HSX has said "calls to action" are discouraged, things like "buy this, it's a good stock" or "sell this, the director quit" etc..I Flash Mar 09, 09:23

AFRAM Fund Update #3 (3/8/12) - The HSX Dude AFRAMFund Mar 08, 08:41

Actors have seasons DTravel Mar 07, 09:09

You mean like JSTAT in the Fall? Even DWASH? WSMIT over Xmas? {nm} Buy StarBond Fund 18 Mar 07, 16:29

Not quite DTravel Mar 07, 20:28

I'm having a good week so far, up $5M the last two days (~$200M port). {nm} DTravel Mar 06, 22:27

I'm up 29 mil so far this month! It's unreal! {nm} slappydavid Mar 07, 04:10

Yeah, you are on a crazy roll. Keep it up! {nm} PRodQuanta Mar 07, 10:15

Keep going!! {nm} <font color="blue">≡Flash</fon Dec 10, 22:37

Karspov's port is growing like a MoFo. {nm} Ryan_Stewart Mar 06, 16:29

So Paul2k is having a 12+ mil day... WOW! {nm} slappydavid Mar 05, 19:53

Wow is right! He must be really dragging his feet today... {nm} PVL Admin Mar 05, 20:00

RattyBatty has arguably had a better day at +11 mil while having a port nearly 2 billion smaller than me. Paul2k Mar 05, 20:22

What has been your largest day, Paul2k? {nm} dioneta Mar 05, 23:34

Hey that rhymed. According to the Billionaire League which has records going back to May of last year, my best day was 18.57 mil. mroast had Paul2k Mar 06, 06:03

Thats incredible! I'm still working towards my first $10M/day :) {nm} dioneta Mar 06, 09:36

Go back to rap school. "Day" does not rhyme with "thousand". ;) {nm} PVL Admin Mar 06, 12:43

I'm kinda bummed that the Multibillion league has gone, along with the record that I had a bigger day that mroast. {nm} RogerMore Mar 06, 18:08

and I am bummed that my record day is not recorded anywhere. {nm} RazorHawk Mar 11, 19:57

Well slappy, you had a ~$8M day, which is arguably better than both! {nm} PRodQuanta Mar 06, 07:28

Yeah, it was one of my best days ever! :) {nm} slappydavid Mar 06, 14:32

Milestone of a sort: After the dust settled today, I broke into top 25k {nm} perply1 Mar 05, 18:59

WHOA!!! Awesome! Congrats! {nm} PRodQuanta Mar 06, 07:27

That's a milestone. Takes HSX diligence to get there. Congratulations! {nm} Ryan_Stewart Mar 09, 23:16

OMARS and tracking option strategery Was Bar Was Mar 05, 13:52

I see what you were saying now...thanks for explaining the ideology. {nm} PVL Admin Mar 05, 15:00

What is RS? and MTC? {nm} jtempkin Mar 05, 18:08

Reel Source and Major Theatre Chain {nm} PVL Admin Mar 05, 18:53

Question about post-adjust strategy dave3626 Mar 05, 11:09

Not really. Unfortunately, the post-adjust play is a crapshoot. Paul2k Mar 05, 11:23

That's too bad. I was hoping to get into the post adjust groove and make some money on upcoming openers after adjust. {nm} dave3626 Mar 05, 12:34

The only real sure thing is when something like TWLI or HPOT were/are in play. You know that they will never make their adjust price. Paul2k Mar 05, 12:59

I'd rather my pants be up around my waist. Anyhow I'll take the advice on the super-blockbusters (HPOT) and say thanks for that. {nm} dave3626 Mar 05, 13:12

I had my pants in the location you suggested. I am still diggin out of the red. Good thing there was news today. {nm} PVL Admin Mar 05, 13:22

Your assumption about the timing of the brake release is wrong. {nm} Antibody Mar 05, 16:35

:) You're such a tease. I know, I know, you can't reveal the secret sauce. But here I am, making an **** out of me and umption. {nm} Paul2k Mar 05, 18:57

Just curious.. Why does HSX use the "brakes"? What's the reasoning for tempering the movement of the market? {nm} dave3626 Mar 07, 07:41

It also matters whether a movie is front loaded - those generally drop faster than your average movie {nm} JDolphin Mar 05, 18:51