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DL: TBOLT was overestimated BY 2 MILLION, only $74 million notfabio May 05, 12:27

Usually Disney routinely underestimates their Marvel opening 3 days. {nm} notfabio May 05, 12:27

wonder how much ****ing around with the title in the marketing alone cost them uncle michelle May 05, 18:21

Curious - Do you think Sinners ends it's hsx run with a number starting w/ a 2? pro-satoshi May 05, 12:18

It's close to $180m through Sunday and it shouldn't have trouble making $20m over the next couple days, so sure, why not? {nm} TheWeekendWarrior May 05, 12:40

The 'SINNERS' Blockbuster Warrant (SINER.OW) is Set at 210.00 for IPO May 11, 2025. The Gift that Keeps on Giving. {nm} THE_ROTO May 05, 12:56

Out of curiosity, has the BW amount ever changed before hitting the market? {nm} Noah66 May 05, 13:51

Yes. {nm} THE_ROTO May 05, 14:26

It will delist close or higher than 210 {nm} gogreenytd May 05, 14:35

DL: White House statement on the INTL Tariffs. California believes movies specifically are exempt from Presidential tariff powers. notfabio May 05, 09:31

It is the physical on location filming of films outside of the US they are trying to target. {nm} notfabio May 05, 09:33

thats what you and i talked about last night {nm} Moviesnob May 05, 09:45

Is he saying the 100% tariff will be on the gross? If not on the gross, then on what? {nm} CButera May 05, 10:32

They haven't thought that far ahead, but I imagine 100% tariff on the foreign tax incentive to wipe it out. nm Antibody May 05, 10:41

It will never happen. I imagine there will be so many lawsuits if they even try it. TheWeekendWarrior May 05, 11:24

I do think this will get held up in the courts for years and is basically Jon Voight meaning well and not knowing what he was talking about {nm} notfabio May 05, 11:35

I think its more likely Voight, who is really smart, asked for more tax incentives in the US especially in L.A. and Trump went his own way Moviesnob May 05, 11:40

It's worth pointing out that SINNERS, the darling film of 2025, would never exist if it wasnt for these tax programs both in the US & abroad {nm} Moviesnob May 05, 11:43

Isn't that more an indictment on the profitability of the film industry? {nm} JayPrimetown May 05, 11:49

Its a good question and too much to discuss on these boards. My answer is kinda yes and no. Moviesnob May 05, 12:02

Any evidence that Jon Voight is "really smart?" A product of nonsense-based education, trainwreck personal life, an obsolete clinger . . . SenJohnBlutarsky May 05, 14:33

They could cut down the budget. Does JURA6/7 really need to cost over $500M in production cost? Antibody May 05, 12:14

its kinda hard to make a movie about dinosaurs without a ton of fx, thats what people expect to see Moviesnob May 05, 14:27

Tariffs are paid by end-users... So at the theater, Americans will pay 100% more as tariff for a "foreign" movie... this is the only way... lukasck May 06, 06:11

Now, to define what is really a "foreign" movie is the problem... lukasck May 06, 06:12

So Who Saw What Last Week? tealfan May 05, 09:05

Thunderbolts* (B) tealfan May 05, 09:05

Less than usual: Terms of Endearment A-, Final Destination 3 B+, Gremlins 2: The New Batch C-, A Day Without Policemen F TheWeekendWarrior May 05, 09:13

In A Violent Nature (B for brutal) {nm} uncle michelle May 05, 09:16

Saint Laurent (C+) {nm} tatoufan May 05, 09:19

Thunderbolts* (B+); Life (B); Longlegs (C); Havoc (C+) {nm} cmbastos May 05, 09:20

Sinners (A), The hype raised our expectations and it delivered. Remarkable. {nm} Initech May 05, 09:27

Nashville: A; Monty Python and the Holy Grail: A goodvibe61 May 05, 09:49

FINAL SCORE (B-), IN THE CUT (B+), DROP (B-), THE WOMAN IN THE YARD (C), WHO CAN KILL A CHILD (B), SILO S01 (B+), NHL Playoffs (A) Moviesnob May 05, 11:49

Last 2 weeks: Sinners (B), Warfare (B-), Ash (C+), Death of a Unicorn (C-) {nm} numbersix_99 May 05, 11:59

Black Bag (B+) {nm} gsquared May 05, 12:05

MarvelSingapore promoting the new TBOLT title Antibody May 05, 08:27

Fandango is running the new title today as well. notfabio May 05, 09:50

Yeah there was a cutesy reveal stunt with the cast posted on the official US account as well. notfabio May 05, 09:51

That look on OKURY's face. Antibody May 05, 11:43

what's the point of changing the title now? (were they still going to change the title if it did better?) {nm} RamsFan2004 May 05, 12:50

DL: SAG-AFTRA will be seeking approval over the use of member performances to train third party AI models in their 2026 negotiations notfabio May 05, 08:19

SAG-AFTRA is up in June 2026, not sure when WGA is? {nm} notfabio May 05, 08:19

Same year. They really need to find better things to complain about. {nm} TheWeekendWarrior May 05, 08:24

i mean, writers told them not to cave on AI the last time around. {nm} uncle michelle May 05, 09:14

(giving them permission is just getting paid some magic beans to slit your own throat) {nm} uncle michelle May 05, 09:15

DL: Angel Studios has set a limited theatrical release on Dec. 25 with January expansion for Brandt Andersen’s The Strangers’ Case notfabio May 05, 08:07

V: Cinecittà Studios set to host the shoot of “The Resurrection of the Christ” in September [RESUR] , which would get Trump's tariff Antibody May 05, 08:02

I think Trump will exempt it. Peterlee May 05, 08:15

After he makes himself Pope? {nm} TheWeekendWarrior May 05, 12:55

Teaser for Highest 2 Lowest [HILOW] in theaters August 22 and on Apple TV+ September 5. Antibody May 05, 07:35

DL: Trump proposes a 100% tariff on movies produced outside the US. notfabio May 04, 16:58

Seems to be a runaway production move but implementation, how? {nm} notfabio May 04, 17:00

runaway production? {nm} Moviesnob May 04, 17:54

Seems to be aimed at filming outside the US, but it seems pretty much impossible to implement. {nm} notfabio May 04, 19:29

he doesnt have a plan, he never does. I didnt know what you meant by runaway production. its not filming outside the US thats the issue its Moviesnob May 04, 19:45

So how do the tarriffs work? Does a French movie have to pay 100% of its budget to be shown here? TheWeekendWarrior May 04, 20:11

he doesnt have a plan, he never does {nm} Moviesnob May 04, 20:15

This... the fact that Jon Voigt is in charge of this plan tells me that it will never happen. {nm} TheWeekendWarrior May 04, 23:50

I just checked and Voight's last three movies filmed in Bulgaria so full-on Trump administration hypocrisy. {nm} TheWeekendWarrior May 05, 04:47

Tariffs only work on physical materials. They are an import tax paid by the RECEIVING customer, so the US distributor would have to pay. DTravel May 04, 20:59

you're assuming he knows what how tarrifs work. he doesnt {nm} Moviesnob May 05, 10:19

I know Trump doesn't know, I was answering Weekend Warrior's question. DTravel May 05, 18:04

The rest of the world can retaliate with 100% tariff on films produced in the US. nm Antibody May 04, 20:57

This. US films foreign earnings are ~50-100X (or more) of foreign films' US earnings. If only more people stand up to the bully. Tallwonder May 04, 22:34

Exactly; just like we've seen with other tariffs. There are levels of stupid. This is a very high level of stupid. {nm} goodvibe61 May 04, 23:32

There is very little foreign production in the US {nm} Moviesnob May 05, 10:20

on Amercan films produced in the US. nm Antibody May 05, 11:46

they want american production compoanies to make movies in their countries thats why they pay a ton for it Moviesnob May 05, 14:26

outside China I should say (where budgets do rival American productions). But even in India, their blockbusters cost $100m at the high end {nm} Moviesnob May 05, 14:29

I guess MPA will sue to cancel the tariff Peterlee May 04, 21:17

Seems like the US would lose box office foreign markets due to reciprocal tariffs. {nm} tatoufan May 05, 04:19

If we follow how tarifs work, it would simply mean Americans would pay 100% more to see a "foreign" movie vs an american movie. lukasck May 05, 05:30

So, U.S. films held a nearly 70% share of the market internationally in 2024. Foreign films in the U.S.: about 1%. Decoman May 05, 06:25

MISS8, AVNG5... would get 100% tariff because they were produced in the UK. nm Antibody May 05, 07:16

But what is the tarriff, the production budget for the movie, essentially doubling it? And that's what? To be released in the United States? TheWeekendWarrior May 05, 07:20

Yeah, I forgot about domestic movies produced at foreign locations. How would that work, I wonder? Decoman May 05, 07:24

Believe this is primarily what he is targeting, bringing more production into the U.S. and draining it from established centres like Canada {nm} Noah66 May 05, 08:09

It's a ploy to being more production and work back to the US. Like almost all of these tariffs they actually won't be implemented {nm} JayPrimetown May 05, 09:56

its cheaper to do it with soft money from governments. The GOP is eliminating the already existing infrastructure in the US (see Louisiana) Moviesnob May 05, 10:18

Anyone know what the "Unknown Title" in BOM's weekend chart is? TheWeekendWarrior May 04, 16:38

Link: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/2025W18/?ref_=bo_wey_table_2 {nm} TheWeekendWarrior May 04, 16:38

Looks like “Guru Nanak Jahaz” MAZUJI May 04, 19:32

That's a movie? {nm} TheWeekendWarrior May 04, 20:11

:) MAZUJI May 05, 06:16

Looks like BOM fixed it MAZUJI May 05, 06:38

Ah, thanks! {nm} TheWeekendWarrior May 05, 07:48

Only 3rd day of release and TBOLT Billboard on Sunset Strip being changed to explain * Antibody May 04, 15:40

I wonder if it would have opened over $100 million if they just called it that in the first place [Spoiler] TheWeekendWarrior May 04, 16:31

Would have helped for sure and was dumb to hide it {nm} notfabio May 04, 16:56

+1* {nm} RamsFan2004 May 04, 17:39

we don't even know if that's going to stick, considering the discussion in the post-credits scene {nm} tealfan May 04, 18:43

when they made that symbol the school flag logo on Community it was because it looked like a butthole {nm} uncle michelle May 04, 23:49

ERC: SURFER $675k Antibody May 04, 08:12

V: TBOLT $76M Antibody May 04, 08:09

Disney did a good job managing expectations on this one. Coverage is "to be expected/did a little better" vs the MCU is over! {nm} notfabio May 04, 08:31

pre-COVID and pre-Disney+ this would have been an easy $120+ opener {nm} uncle michelle May 04, 09:00

Nah maybe low 100s still too gloomy, still poor choice of team and villain. Needed Zemo and real villain Thunderbolts Wisdom_of_the_Ages May 04, 11:20

I agree. I remember asking Daniel Bruhl about Zemo being in a Thunderbolts movie years ago. TheWeekendWarrior May 04, 11:31

except I thought he stopped being a villain with Falcon and the Winter Soldier {nm} tealfan May 04, 13:56

It's a fantastic movie and should have some good legs due to WOM I assume. Nothing about it should have been changed! {nm} MiyazakiFan May 04, 16:11

Happy Star Wars Day everyone... May the Force be with you... always. {nm} cmbastos May 04, 07:23

Jatinder: Looks like $25M SAT for #Thunderbolts. $56.5M 2 days cume. Weekend headed for $75M or so tomcat90 May 03, 19:37

WSJ: how Disney is trying to reset from Marvel Fatigue uncle michelle May 03, 20:44

“I saw the whole announcement and, not to exaggerate, I fell to my knees,” Bailey Bowen, a 25-year-old teacher’s aide, said sneak May 03, 21:35

CBR: Apparently, the Russos filmed the post-credits scene in TBOLT (SPOILERS at the link) TheWeekendWarrior May 03, 15:17

BOM: SURFR $325,000, RUST $25,000 Antibody May 03, 13:54

What's gonna be the first day that Sinners grosses more than Thunderbolts? A couple weeks away from that or sooner? {nm} goodvibe61 May 03, 10:23

May 19-21 would have the best shot. {nm} Antibody May 03, 10:36

I should've specified: single day was what i was referring to. But either way, single day or weekend lol. {nm} goodvibe61 May 03, 13:13

Yeah, one of those days Monday through Wednesday after the 3rd weekend? I was thinking around the same time. Nice . {nm} goodvibe61 May 03, 13:26

Except that it delists on 5/12, so who really cares? :) {nm} TheWeekendWarrior May 03, 13:38

Just interesting to think about is all. Want to see it control to roll. {nm} goodvibe61 May 03, 18:18

Sinners is probably going to pass ALL of JOrdan Peele's movies by Sunday. {nm} TheWeekendWarrior May 03, 08:33

This includes the Oscar-winning Get Out and its follow-up Us which opened with $71 million TheWeekendWarrior May 03, 08:34

-27% even after losing IMAX. It can get to $300M through the Award season. nm Antibody May 03, 08:44

i think wb already signaled it's getting a fall (Halloween) re-release. no-brainer {nm} uncle michelle May 03, 08:53

Sure, but it also probably will be on Max by then. {nm} TheWeekendWarrior May 03, 08:59

And Revenge of the Sith is on D+. nm Antibody May 03, 09:28

Yes. Isn't that it? People like seeing films in a nice theater, with strangers. It absolutely rocks. It's so old it's new baby. goodvibe61 May 03, 10:21

RiJo publicly said Ted Sarandos is full of **** about people not wanting to go to the movies. hope he takes Knives Out to Uni when his NF uncle michelle May 03, 11:09

That's great and all, but how about walking the walk instead of just talking it? {nm} goodvibe61 May 03, 18:19

Which is exactly why Dogma should get a derivative :) {nm} TheWeekendWarrior May 03, 13:01

+1 {nm} RamsFan2004 May 03, 15:04