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I read that both Die Hards 1 and 2 were both not originally designed to be Die Hard films as well.

Posted by: Jay_Beezy (a.k.a Jay_Bling) on Jan 19, 14:49 in response to notfabio's post This was actually an unrelated spec script Moscow that...

Die Hard 1 was originally meant to be a film based on a novel named Nothing Lasts Forever by Roderick Thorp, and was at one point gonna star Arnold Schwarzenegger and make it a Commando sequel.

Die Hard 2 was based off of a novel by a different author, 58 Minutes by Walter Wager. Although, I'm not sure if the original script to that was meant to be an adaptation of the novel or it was originally adapted as a Die Hard sequel.

Die Hard 5 is the only one originally written to be a Die Hard film, I believe.

For anyone on the Jack Ryan-bashing bandwagon... (BoM link, RT, a few box office and other comments) KalElFan Jan 19, 12:00

I really like CPINE. I just want Jack Ryan to have a low OW so I can make a few bucks. After that... it can do well if it can. jakemongoose Jan 19, 12:25

It's all halted now of course. Looks to me like the main stock will be a slight long, the OW and Call shorts, Put long. {nm} KalElFan Jan 19, 13:24

That would work ;p {nm} jakemongoose Jan 19, 13:44

According to BOM estimates, it looks to be -4.48 {nm} PVL Admin Jan 19, 15:30

There is no one pushing for a sequel at Paramount but it looks like international is doing well {nm} notfabio Jan 19, 12:58

This was actually an unrelated spec script Moscow that was rewritten into a Jack Ryan film. Die Hard 3 and 4 similarly were based on specs {nm} notfabio Jan 19, 13:02

I recall that original Moscow title now that you mention it. Boxofficemojo also has the early $22.2M Foreign up on the summary pg now. {nm} KalElFan Jan 19, 13:10

I read that both Die Hards 1 and 2 were both not originally designed to be Die Hard films as well. Jay_Beezy Jan 19, 14:49

Here's the link to the current 3,313 IMDb votes, 27.3% 7/10 and 18.7% 6/10, 17.5% 8/10, 13.2% 10/10, 3.4% 1/10 {nm} KalElFan Jan 19, 13:44

I've seen it. Don't need to cite critic reviews to me. It's awful. It's completely worthy of all the scorn it gets. thatpj Jan 19, 13:01