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Who's to say what they should or should not receive? Who's the arbiter of that? Power is the most powerful aphrodisiac, many say. {nm}

Posted by: Facto on Apr 02, 11:57 in response to Rocket123 aka PVL Admin's post It's despicable, but isn't that the norm for...

Gawker: the open secret of Harvey Weinstein's behavior with women is now out. (will the tide build and turn like Bill Cosby?) Antibody Apr 02, 10:43

insinuates OWILD,. GMOL and BLIVE all been helped by "casting" sessions. {nm} Antibody Apr 02, 10:46

the Gretchen Mol story (how she got Rounders) i heard a long time ago {nm} professor smartbrain Apr 02, 16:50

"She was living in a Hell's Kitchen walk-up when she was noticed by a talent agent who spotted her working as a hat check girl at Michael's Facto Apr 03, 07:40

Cosby drugged and raped his victims. Sounds like Harvey was "asking" these women, and they at least had a "choice" in the matter BSmurf Apr 02, 10:54

Classy comment. The guy needs muses. Show me a highly driven person who doesn't require inspiration - unless he's a manic preacher, who Facto Apr 02, 11:02

Wait, what? I'm having trouble finding anything resembling a point in your post. Who are you talking to, and about what? {nm} BSmurf Apr 02, 11:05

More of a general comment, but one sees so much judgemental stuff. Here, the use of a word like "scumbag". {nm} Facto Apr 02, 11:11

Would "Bully" (a widely accepted term to describe HW - even by HIM) have been more appropriate? He uses people to enrich himself w/o regard BSmurf Apr 02, 11:17

It ties in with a pattern seen many places. Here at HSX boards only a few get into it. My point isn't that he probably doesn't fit the term. Facto Apr 02, 11:37

So, (astonishingly) your point is that you don't like it when people call a spade a spade? And that somehow translates to a particular BSmurf Apr 02, 12:02

You are right - I don't like it. I find it lacking in class, and the entire idiom of "calling a spade a spade" revolts me. It's a mask for Facto Apr 02, 12:28

On the other hand, Facto DTravel Apr 02, 13:00

Sounds like a US cultural or interpretational thing. So, unless things are put very bluntly and coarsely, disapproval can't be communicated? {nm} Facto Apr 02, 13:09

Disapproval can't be communicated without being _accurate_. DTravel Apr 02, 13:26

This might turn into an interesting debate, yet. A bit of sociology class and something to chew on. (No immediate reply.) {nm} Facto Apr 02, 13:44

short version: "They were asking for it" {nm} professor smartbrain Apr 02, 11:15

Yeah, right. Never listen to mickpix - especially when it comes to me, and those few others he's held grudges against for a number of years. {nm} Facto Apr 02, 11:22

Maybe because they don't agree with your views on women. {nm} Antibody Apr 02, 11:31

Oh yeah, it's gotta be that. I have views on women, now+ {nm} Facto Apr 02, 11:33

(Supposed to be ? at the end. Might put "views on women" in quotes as well.) I'm just not a libtard, like some of these parrots. {nm} Facto Apr 02, 11:34

As oppose to a conservative who think women should be subservient to men? {nm} Antibody Apr 02, 11:36

Well, I guess in the US it boils down to just those two stereotypes. Even your two-party politics becomes useless noise and mudslinging. Facto Apr 02, 11:43

Please stop the name-calling or be banned. {nm} Antibody Apr 02, 11:47

Ok, fine. Rules are rules. My apologies. I should take cues and learn to place passive-aggressive jabs, whenever possible, like he does :-) {nm} Facto Apr 02, 11:53

The 'two-party politics' is hardly much different in Europe (epp & socialists), it's all the same. {nm} tatoufan Apr 02, 13:08

Less theatrics and mud-slinging, but I guess we're/they're taking cues from the US and regressin, gradually.. {nm} Facto Apr 02, 13:24

Never listen to facto - especially when it comes to me, and those few others he's held grudges against for a number of years. {nm} RazorHawk Apr 02, 11:40

Ehr.. Right. Let's make this about you and turn it all into a parody. I don't hold grudges against you. Get over yourself already.. Facto Apr 02, 11:46

and then you post thingys like this.... RazorHawk Apr 02, 12:01

I'd say that's about perceptiveness. Facto Apr 02, 12:21

passive-aggressiveness... RazorHawk Apr 02, 12:32

Well, that was neither a jab nor passive-aggressive. It was a jocular comment made in good spirit. Too bad it was misread as anything else. Facto Apr 02, 12:44

Its been years.. you still don't get it... I'll just put you on the list and I won't have to deal with it anymore. {nm} RazorHawk Apr 02, 12:49

Been years? Years of what? Years of me not being able to read your mind? I honestly don't know what you're getting at. Facto Apr 02, 12:59

Also: Impressed that you had that tagged. A couple of general points: Facto Apr 02, 12:52

His point is to excuse rape, as near as I can tell. {nm} tawdryhepburn Apr 02, 14:40

You should quit trying to tell/interpret then, because you're apparently really bad at it. And for the record: Accusing others of excusing Facto Apr 03, 05:03

You probably actually *are* a fan of Anthony Scallia so pointing out the similarities in your inductive reasoning would be counterproductive {nm} tawdryhepburn Apr 03, 11:02

And I know Scallia's thought process well: my girlfriend is a lawyer and was a member of the *shudders* federalist society. {nm} tawdryhepburn Apr 03, 11:03

He's not an artist. He's a powerful man using his position to gain sexual favors. {nm} Antibody Apr 02, 11:27

#winning {nm} lhayes37 Apr 02, 11:38

Shoulda changed your nick to Charlie S or something for that one there, Les... {nm} Facto Apr 02, 11:47

yeah woulda been better {nm} lhayes37 Apr 02, 12:04

It's despicable, but isn't that the norm for "powerful people"? They expect (and receive) more than they should, purely based on "leverage" {nm} Rocket123 aka PVL Admin Apr 02, 11:47

Sexual harrassment is illegal. {nm} Antibody Apr 02, 11:49

...but has to be proven, first.. Facto Apr 02, 12:01

That comment says it all about your view. It's not a crime if you can get away with it! {nm} Antibody Apr 02, 12:04

No. You're jumping to conclusions :) (Or applying rhetorics.) I actually think that "innocent until proven guilty" is a good principle for Facto Apr 02, 12:16

Who's to say what they should or should not receive? Who's the arbiter of that? Power is the most powerful aphrodisiac, many say. Facto Apr 02, 11:57

Sexual harassment has to be proven - and therein lies the rub.... {nm} Facto Apr 02, 11:58

Yes, it has to be proven. But he shouldn't be able to prevent investigation into it just because he has money and influence. {nm} DTravel Apr 02, 13:28

You think he holds power even over the police.. ? {nm} Facto Apr 03, 05:30

I'll be glad to say he should not be asking women to strip, get on all fours so he can jerk off on their back {nm} Moviesnob Apr 02, 11:58

No, that's Terry Richardson's job. {nm} DTravel Apr 02, 13:04

There are at least a handful of comments I'd like to make to this post - and I find it hard to choose. {nm} Facto Apr 02, 13:06

Choose better than "Power is the most powerful aphrodisiac, many say." That suggests they find casting couch behavior as sexuallystimulating {nm} Moviesnob Apr 02, 13:14

Well, for one, I don't know if you're making assumptions or whether you know a lot more than is written in articles. Facto Apr 02, 13:23

Well I wasn't in the room but I do believe the people who have told me that. {nm} Moviesnob Apr 02, 13:27

You know, like Roman Polanski. {nm} tawdryhepburn Apr 02, 14:50

The mind boggles as to how you're able to bring him into this as well. Even as snark goes, these seem like low blows. Tawdry indeed. {nm} Facto Apr 03, 05:23

Roman Polanski gained access to his 13-year old victim under the pretense that he was shooting a spread for Vogue. {nm} tawdryhepburn Apr 03, 10:52

Okay. No name calling toward Harvey -- if the rumors were to be true, the word to use would be "Rapist." tawdryhepburn Apr 02, 14:21

Also boggles the mind what good expanding the rape definition does. That's a whole debate in itself - or perhaps you don't know. {nm} Facto Apr 03, 05:25

Yeah... she was probably wearing a short skirt and should have known better than to drink alcohol around a man! #VictimBlaming {nm} tawdryhepburn Apr 02, 14:39

You really ought to read more about rhetorics. Look up "strawman argument". {nm} Facto Apr 03, 05:27

This topic is a mess, but the 'short skirt' rape apologia is absolutely relevant to the post I was responding to. {nm} tawdryhepburn Apr 03, 10:53

And for the record, I am not accusing Weinstein of *anything* whatsoever. I am, however, stating that (cont'd inside) tawdryhepburn Apr 03, 11:00

THAT'S IT, I WILL SUE YOU ALL IF YOU KEEP UP THIS SLANDEROUS THREAD!!! {nm} WEINXFund Apr 02, 20:19

;-/ {nm} WEINXFund Apr 02, 20:22





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