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WB must be suppressing the BEET2 RT because MARIA is 70% with 23 reviews Antibody Aug 30, 10:28

Apparently Rottentomatoes holding back reveals for all expected blockbusters now, was update buried in that Popcornmeter news nfred659 Aug 30, 11:47

so RT expects BEET2 to gross more than $120M it's already more than 20 reviews {nm} Antibody Aug 30, 11:53

Oh, it's total not opening. {nm} Antibody Aug 30, 12:01

It wasnt buried. They even have charts! 40 reviews for BEET2 and 20 reviews for MARIS to hit their threshold. {nm} Moviesnob Aug 30, 11:54

Buried in the sense no one noticed it until now {nm} nfred659 Aug 30, 12:02

Thats not on them! {nm} Moviesnob Aug 30, 12:07

It kinda is. Wasn't implied by the headline, URL or any of the trade pieces reporting on it. {nm} nfred659 Aug 30, 12:08

They emailed and spoke to PR teams and distributors about the change {nm} Moviesnob Aug 30, 12:10

The press release was about the New Popcornmeter, rather than changes to Tomatometer. {nm} Antibody Aug 30, 12:11

agree to disagree about them burying this {nm} Moviesnob Aug 30, 12:13

Would've expected some social media clarification at least when Beetlejuice reviews started coming out. nfred659 Aug 30, 12:15

+1 this {nm} RamsFan2004 Aug 30, 12:50

You think MARIA is making $60-120M on Netflix? ;) Antibody Aug 30, 12:02

Netflix is considered a wide release regardless of box office, but its likely they are putting it in the festival bucket so only 10 reviews Moviesnob Aug 30, 12:06

Studios could easily get RT to delay the RT score by holding back until reviews. WB owns 25% of RT, Universal the other 75%. {nm} Antibody Aug 30, 12:06

Maybe there are already more than 40 reviews sent to RT, but they're waiting and hoping for 80%+ {nm} Antibody Aug 30, 12:15

if you send a review to RT because they missed it, it usually takes 2 or 3 days for them to post it {nm} Moviesnob Aug 30, 12:19

I know the studios own RT, but are they gaming the system to this extent (rigging it in a sense) to get a high % out of the gate? {nm} RamsFan2004 Aug 30, 12:53

^ by 'rig' I only mean in the sense that they are competing against other smaller movies that don't have the pull they do. {nm} RamsFan2004 Aug 30, 12:55

I would argue that the collapse of film journalism and the rise of user reviews are the culprits Moviesnob Aug 30, 13:03

There are much easier ways that every distributor does to game the rt score. This doesn't guarantee a high score {nm} Moviesnob Aug 30, 12:57

What's the logic behind this? Wouldn't blockbusters be less reliant on reviews anyway? Wouldn't smaller movies benefit more from a delay? {nm} RamsFan2004 Aug 30, 12:04

Bigger movies tend to get a lot more reviews and the tomatometer tends to change much more dramatically nfred659 Aug 30, 12:06

It does hurt small movies. Its hard to get critics to watch smaller movies fests so 10 is a high threshold for sure {nm} Moviesnob Aug 30, 12:08

Makes sense. I see now why big movies don't want big swings if reviews could be mixed. But small movies need that tomato icon right away. {nm} RamsFan2004 Aug 30, 12:51

You mostly need RT for around the release time. RT isnt really consumer facing until then {nm} Moviesnob Aug 30, 13:04

I've relied a lot more on Letterboxd in 2024 for initial word of mouth {nm} Moviesnob Aug 30, 13:05

I'm back on Letterboxd after five years for that very reason. Just a lot more reliable than RT. {nm} TheWeekendWarrior Aug 31, 03:57

The reason for it is in the announcement (reviews change over time) Moviesnob Aug 30, 12:22