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it's a reasonable complaint, but the Mets gave him a league worst 3.5 runs in support. Thats not on him. His WAR was higher than his wins! {nm}

Posted by: Moviesnob on Nov 15, 08:57 in response to islndr's post If you start 32 games and win 10, you dont deserve a cy...

If you start 32 games and win 10, you dont deserve a cy young. {nm} islndr Nov 15, 08:11

it's a reasonable complaint, but the Mets gave him a league worst 3.5 runs in support. Thats not on him. His WAR was higher than his wins! Moviesnob Nov 15, 08:57

which makes a poor case for war {nm} islndr Nov 15, 09:24

i hear ya, its flawed, but i prefer the advance metrics over wins and you could tell this year the voters did as well. {nm} Moviesnob Nov 15, 11:08

What is it good for? {nm} RogerMore Nov 15, 13:22

absolutely nothing! {nm} tealfan Nov 15, 17:18

Listen to me {nm} Edwin Starr Nov 15, 18:27

De Grom co-led the MLB in Quality Starts. W is dependent on run support. QS isn't. Antibody Nov 15, 11:28

Just because the team was terrible, doesn't mean the pitcher was. You should go by his pitching, not whether his team can score enough runs {nm} JDolphin Nov 15, 14:13

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