Playing & Trading Strategy

damn, i just dont understand how some of this works, at the start of the day, im down 100 k, before ANYTHING moves, i just dont get it {nm} horrorfanatic Feb 19, 00:17

reset trading/flipping/day trading. I often wake up 1-2 million down. {nm} forlorne Feb 19, 06:42

post todays delisting... jaymel Feb 18, 19:36

Nicely Done. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 18, 20:12

Good Advice: There is a description for derivatives, read it *before* you invest. {nm} islander Feb 18, 18:58

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No need to Tag (ROBOC). Please see BOM Daily Box Office for (ROBOC). RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 18, 20:09

I did check that out ty! enigma Feb 18, 20:11

Confused about RoboCop "Call" Derivative. I had 20,000 shares bought at 2.00 for $40000. Does this mean it cashed out for only $1,200? CactusLand Feb 18, 17:41

The strike prices was $25, actual was $25.06. Somebody please explain it because CactusLand Feb 18, 17:44

Weekend box office gross (25.06) - strike price (25) = cash out of 0.06 per share. {nm} socby19 Feb 18, 18:11

You are correct. Break even for this particular call would have been 25 strike + 2 premium = 27 Oleg Max Feb 18, 18:15

Correct-A-Mundo. See Inside. RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 18, 18:20

wrong enigma Feb 18, 18:45

30m - 25m = 5m = $H5.00/share {nm} enigma Feb 18, 18:46

only Fri-Mon counts, per the stock description {nm} lapuckfan Feb 18, 18:47

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here you go. box office this weekend was 25 not 30. cash out is correct. You're adding in box office from Wed (2.8) and Thur (2.1) Moviesnob Feb 18, 20:03

TY! Moviesnob enigma Feb 18, 20:08

Is there a trick to the Classic Cash game? {nm} AgentEvil Feb 17, 06:17

If there is a trick, I don't know it. When I remember to play, I just click same location poster every time. One would think Oleg Max Feb 17, 07:46

I also click the same position every time, and win less than 1/7th of the time. Bit odd. {nm} CG63 Feb 17, 08:29

There used to be a trick, but it was fixed, and now it is just random {nm} RazorHawk Feb 17, 07:48

Six (6) Classic Cash Wins in January 2014 for ROTO YTD Port. Most ROTO Wins in 1 month - Eleven (11). RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 17, 09:40

Using a RNG won't help, since the two events are independent. You can click the same movie everyday and still have a 1/7 chance of winning elchan2012 Feb 17, 10:47

*Calling all PHD's in Mathematics.* {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 17, 11:08

LOL, not worth a PhD, undergrad stuff. {nm} elchan2012 Feb 18, 13:31

yap.. unless these two events are mutually dependent on each other.. this scenario is purely random and coincidental ;-) {nm} karspov Feb 18, 05:27

pick Bullit when it comes up and hit 25% of the time. the rest are luck? {nm} DASavage Feb 18, 08:45

the trick is to be lucky....once i hit it 4 days in a row, ill never see that kind of luck again, i havent won it in 2 weeks {nm} horrorfanatic Feb 18, 09:16

So, I'm reading up on starbonds, which I've never played. Am I correct in saying the bond adjusts according to the delist price of a film? CactusLand Feb 16, 07:34

Basically, the total gross of past delisted movies should be ignored when calculating future starbond adjusts? CactusLand Feb 16, 07:58

Use the delist price for the new movie being added; use total gross (up to 250mill) for movies that have already delisted {nm} RazorHawk Feb 16, 08:08

Thank you for clarifying! {nm} CactusLand Feb 16, 08:33

I've been causually playing this game since 2010, and have a portfolio of about $400 million. Some people seem to get that in months. CactusLand Feb 15, 08:46

Playing starbond adjusts is an obvious one. Look in the Glossary to get an idea of how Starbonds work. RogerMore Feb 15, 09:08

thanks! I'll check them out. {nm} CactusLand Feb 15, 10:11

I play a version i call HSGuess {nm} DASavage Feb 16, 09:06

At the bottom of description in my leagues, there are a series of tips. Read. Joining optional. PVL Admin Feb 15, 10:48

Thanks that was very helpful . {nm} CactusLand Feb 16, 05:37

See link inside to something I posted a while back DTravel Feb 15, 14:07

Can I link to this in my leagues and caption it "Casual Player Strategy"? {nm} PVL Admin Feb 15, 14:26

Sure, go ahead. {nm} DTravel Feb 15, 22:45

Added, thanks! I think that will help "casual" players a lot. {nm} PVL Admin Feb 16, 12:20

Thanks! {nm} CactusLand Feb 16, 05:37

Excuse the noob question, but does President's day mean a 4-day 2.2 adjust? {nm} CactusLand Feb 15, 03:09

Basically, what formula is Robocop using? 5 day opening, or 4 day? {nm} CactusLand Feb 15, 03:17

Yes, and in Robocop's case it's "4-day weekend * 2.2 + Wed + Th". The calendar is your friend {nm} RogerMore Feb 15, 04:31

Which calendar are you referring to? {nm} CactusLand Feb 15, 06:05

The "market calendar" say that. So what calendar should I be looking at? {nm} CactusLand Feb 15, 06:09

Nevermind. I see it. Thanks. {nm} CactusLand Feb 15, 06:10

The 'Market Calendar' which is Found under 'News & Events' at the Top of the Page (See Inside). RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 15, 06:11

Is the Change Today on my port in real time? I can't figure why I'm in the red when I hold max shares of 10 of top 12 movers. {nm} BuenaOnda Feb 13, 15:32

Maybe u lose money in other stock {nm} mike255 Feb 14, 05:59

The top 10 movie movers account for 0.95% of your port. {nm} elchan2012 Feb 14, 08:05

Sometimes I hate the exchange and the way stocks inexplicably move - due to players playing the players... **2, here's looking at you! {nm} Facto Feb 09, 16:10

If this game was any easier, EVERYONE would be billionaires. ndmaster Feb 12, 07:48

Bought {nm} tatoufan Feb 09, 03:36

SOLD. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 09, 08:53

This is a call to action. You need to be sanctioned. {nm} elchan2012 Feb 09, 09:54

I was going to say bought lEGO at 48 on Razorhawks report a while back for AFRAM. He said, he would trade LEGO, but tatoufan Feb 09, 11:16

It's the OW-derivative that will be a big payday, tomorrow evening... {nm} Facto Feb 09, 17:42

@moviesnob/rogermore - Advice requested (attempt #2) PVL Admin Feb 08, 16:29

I think Roger's advice about looking at the data and knowing what we know (high delist values over winter holidays) Moviesnob Feb 08, 20:37

Thank you for the advice. You make a lot of good points and I need to think this through further. I like the idea about layering in PVL Admin Feb 08, 21:48

Thanksgiving releases tend to have poor legs by delist, though that doesn't mean poor legs overall. RogerMore Feb 09, 06:50

ah, so just for that week, it would make sense to have a sep genre for the twilights & the harry potters (probably "blockbusters") Moviesnob Feb 09, 08:20

Building on Moviesnob's point, you may want to structure this by keeping the broad categories and then subdividing them based on results. RogerMore Feb 09, 07:10

@moviesnob/rogermore - Advice requested PVL Admin Feb 08, 16:26

Woah! Do not open. please scrub. format went to the poo poo. {nm} PVL Admin Feb 08, 16:28

I would probably tinker with the actual dates and go from there. But summer = first big May release to mid-August and Christmas = two weeks RogerMore Feb 08, 16:36

(What I mean by tinker with the dates is identify the weekends with DMs that are different from the norm and use those to set parameters {nm} RogerMore Feb 08, 16:38

I get it. I need to populate more data before I will know what to ask for. TY {nm} PVL Admin Feb 08, 16:42

Thanks for this. I will work with this for now and once I have converted the "unknown unknown" to the "known unknown" I will ask for more. {nm} PVL Admin Feb 08, 16:41

i tend to think summer ends with the end of July. Kids are still out of school in August, but its a big vacation month, so that affects Moviesnob Feb 08, 20:49

elchan -- followup to our discussion. See Port Monkeys league. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Feb 07, 05:22

what an idea - Sea Monkeys Port! {nm} forlorne Feb 07, 12:39

Is this useful for anyone? If it is, I will post when complete...(Average delist multiples by Genre and Rating) PVL Admin Feb 06, 19:13

Yes, it would be useful. I'd be interested in it. {nm} elchan2012 Feb 06, 19:57

you'll need to normalize for seasonality. {nm} Moviesnob Feb 06, 22:50

Good avice. Thx {nm} PVL Admin Feb 08, 12:08

What dates would you use for "Summer" PVL Admin Feb 08, 15:00

Thanks a lot for this. I think I was asking about it in one of your leagues a while back and it's great to finally see some numbers on Willroast Feb 06, 23:59

Looks good but I agree with Moviesnob that season can make a big difference and I'd be interested in that further breakdown also) {nm} JDolphin Feb 07, 12:02

Let me know if you'd like more data - I have loads of box office data, you would just need to add rating and genre info {nm} RogerMore Feb 07, 18:03

Thanks for the offer. I have a lot of data, but if I want/need more, I'll be sure to pipe up. Thank you. PVL Admin Feb 08, 12:10

What's the calculation for OW's and where do I find them? Thanks, OW is new to me. {nm} Telly Feb 06, 05:47

how OW's work is written on every OW stockpage {nm} RazorHawk Feb 06, 06:32

Yes, but there is no calculations there... Telly Feb 06, 07:27

What needs to be calculated? The opening weekend gains IS the price adjusted. They are all listed under derivatives. PVL Admin Feb 06, 08:00

Great, that is what I did not know and it's not explained under the OW's, so there you go. Thanks. {nm} Telly Feb 06, 09:17

"The price of an Opening Weekend Warrant is based on the weekend box office" {nm} Antibody Feb 06, 10:16

"based on" could mean anything! For a new player how does that explain the gross of $25mil means it's $25 stock price? That's a formula. {nm} Telly Feb 06, 11:45

BTW, My question was valid as stocks are normally calculated, i.e. 2.7 multiplier. How was I supposed to know OW's Telly Feb 06, 09:19

how OW's work is written on every OW stockpage {nm} RazorHawk Feb 06, 10:27

Look at any one of them and show me where it says the value is equal to the BO of that weekend., i.e. $10 = $10 mil. {nm} Telly Feb 06, 11:38

And "based on" does not mean equate to. The blurb on OW pages does not articulate how it's calculated. {nm} Telly Feb 06, 11:41

No, it does not. It simply says it's "based on" the weekend gross, which tells a new player nothing. Explaining the formula would work bette {nm} Telly Feb 06, 11:43

The OW Formula for Adjust can be found on the Market Calendar. (See Inside). RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 06, 15:10

thanks for weighing in with the answer to a question that wasn't asked {nm} lapuckfan Feb 06, 15:25

OWs halt on Fridays, not Saturdays (as you posted). {nm} RazorHawk Feb 06, 15:53

Hey look, someone actually answered the question and wasn't smug about it. THANKS. :) {nm} Telly Feb 06, 20:00

This question was answered at 8 am today... Why are we still talking about it, or in some cases, trying to answer it again? {nm} PVL Admin Feb 06, 17:59

because the only person in this thread who answered it was Rotohockey. {nm} Telly Feb 07, 08:54

So your confrmation at 9:17 was what? Well, I guess if you want help next time I won't take the time... {nm} PVL Admin Feb 07, 11:09

The rest of the thread was about the calculations not being listed where some posters said it was... Telly Feb 07, 12:51

Will be Happy to Answer any other Questions that you may have. Happy Trading. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 07, 14:58

Started a new league for those who use HowProfitable.Com. So people that are not members can ask questions and socialize. elchan2012 Feb 05, 14:38

you started a league for players who do not use your website... so they can talk about your website... that they do not use? {nm} RazorHawk Feb 05, 15:37

No. People who DO use his website, but -- like me -- have not registered for accounts... which provide some additional benefits. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Feb 05, 17:02

Lol, that would be silly. {nm} elchan2012 Feb 05, 22:49

Good idea. {nm} PVL Admin Feb 05, 18:33

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like to see hsx start ... jaymel Feb 04, 13:56

How would they work? {nm} RogerMore Feb 04, 14:16

I am speculating here but don't think you could have calls or puts on StarBonds. Dank Feb 06, 14:42

sigh, im down 365k on lego.ow, why? because its supposed to be so well recieved...somebody please give me a straight answer, without ridicul horrorfanatic Feb 03, 21:30

Well received by who? Just wondering which media you are referencing. BO.com has OW at 40 (of course they aren't always right) {nm} JDolphin Feb 03, 21:44

well, i saw it either on deadline or variety,one of those, one of the ones that are supposed to be trusted sites, i dont look anywhere else {nm} horrorfanatic Feb 03, 23:13

You have to remember that stocks of movies that are opening soon always have a lot of movement up OR down the week of opening... Flash Feb 04, 08:18

Funny, I'm up 460k. I guess some players did not think it would open at 50 and shorted it. FYI: MTC is 43.8, BO is 43... PVL Admin Feb 04, 10:11

It's a mystery to me. I don't see a justification for the current price. {nm} Muad' Dib Feb 05, 10:05

I shorted the lego.ow at first because of the difference between H$50 and most of the prediction I saw ... MattW Feb 05, 18:11

B/C of Reviews and the Marketing campaign that was amazing {nm} Dank Feb 05, 20:04

Hope you guys covered this!!! {nm} Dank Feb 06, 11:12

LEGO.OW FLOAT IS MUCH SMALLER, WITH SHORTS IT'S GONNA MOVE A LOT! Dank Feb 06, 13:38