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That's actually backasswards,

Posted by: Grunt (a.k.a Retiree) on Oct 25, 13:50 in response to terraformingearth's post Does shorting cause a stock to rise, and buying cause it...

The way it is supposed to work is:
Buying = positive
Selling= negative
Shorting = negative
Covering = positive

Does shorting cause a stock to rise, and buying cause it to fall? That's the only way I can make sense of certain movements today. {nm} terraformingearth Oct 25, 11:14

No, and, The secret sauce is secret. {nm} DTravel Oct 25, 13:13

That's actually backasswards, Grunt Oct 25, 13:50

What Evidence led you to that Conclusion? {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Oct 25, 13:55

Killers stock rising at a time it would be difficult to understand anyone buying and not shorting it. {nm} terraformingearth Oct 26, 06:08

All that means is that the BUY & COVER Transactions were Greater than the SELL & SHORT Transactions. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Oct 26, 06:31

Which makes no rational sense, hence my confusion. {nm} terraformingearth Oct 26, 08:17

The flaw in your assumptions is that the trading is entirely rational. {nm} DTravel Oct 26, 12:47

Fair point. {nm} terraformingearth Oct 27, 07:13

Traders COVERING (KOTFM) SHORTS to Invest more Profitably Elsewhere would Cause (KOTFM) to Rise. Very little Trading Volume. RotoHockeyYTD2014 Oct 26, 13:16

There are other ways to make rational sense, when a movie like KOTFM doesn't fit the most common mold. {nm} Patient Player Oct 26, 14:56

** This post has been removed by the forum moderator! ** creeper Oct 27, 13:16

No Need to TAG. Monday, Tuesday & Wednesday are not Reported as (TSWIF) does not have (TSTET) on M-T-W. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Oct 27, 15:19

The Number of Shares Held LONG & the Number of Shares Held SHORT do not Affect Price Movement. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Oct 25, 16:48

Only BUY / SELL / SHORT / COVER Transactions Affect Price Movement. Please show us an Example of your Conclusion. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Oct 25, 16:49

Not a conclusion, a question. That was the only way for me to make sense that Killers keeps rising with OW of $23M {nm} terraformingearth Oct 26, 06:36

(JSTAT) kept Rising despite Multiple Traders Posting that (JSTAT) was Headed for a Massive S/B SMACK-DOWN Up the Wazoo. Which happened. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Oct 26, 06:58

You may have much yet to learn. Not all movies have the same attendance profile. {nm} Patient Player Oct 26, 14:48

Have you researched the attendance patterns of other Scorsese movies? {nm} Patient Player Oct 26, 15:02

No, I have not. Wouldn't > 3X OW be pretty unusual? {nm} terraformingearth Oct 27, 07:14

Scorsese is unusual. {nm} Patient Player Oct 27, 22:22

So Much for Attendance Patterns. So much for Unusual. (KOTFM) is TANKING Badly. Just an Estimated +17.4 MILL for the WEEK MON-SUN. RotoHockeyYTD2014 Oct 29, 09:42

It's a Scorsese SMACK-DOWN. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Oct 29, 09:44

Oh, now this was Unusual - (KOTFM) TUES 24OCT23 2.90 MILL was Greater than (KOTFM) FRI 27OCT23 2.67 MILL. SMACK-DOWN Ahead. RotoHockeyYTD2014 Oct 30, 18:53





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