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New thread above -- professional handicapping actually has The Square about the same and The Act of Killing an even bigger favorite. Also...

Posted by: KalElFan (a.k.a del_TOM_KalElFan) on Feb 23, 11:49 in response to Moviesnob's post Gold Derby means nothing, not handicapping. Oscar season...

That Gold Derby page is specifically for "handicapping".  They have other pages for critics, editors, users, etc., and so I suspect they use professional oddsmaking as at least part of their input.

If they don't, perhaps they ought not call it handicapping. Smile

The main point is it's close to the professionals, no matter how Gold Derby determines that handicapping section.

I'm surprised you think The Square is a bigger threat than 20 Feet from Stardom.  Especially if the vote between The Act of Killing and The Square is so substantially split that it's near-equal, it would seem 20 Feet from Stardom would benefit.

Hmmm. THEGUARDIAN: 'The Act Of Killing': Don't Give An OSCAR To This Snuff Movie. RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 22, 21:46

its a hit piece. this is written by a friend of the director of the square and wants the square to win. {nm} Moviesnob Feb 22, 22:00

they made these movies together. He is clearly biased and hopes in influence voters. He also has a history with both Josh and Werner Herzog Moviesnob Feb 22, 22:02

That is ironic since there is plenty of violence in The Square. {nm} thatpj Feb 22, 23:40

FWIW, Gold Derby (Handicapping) has The Act of Killing at 6/5, 20 Feet from Stardom at 8/5. The Square is 3rd but at a higher 15/2. So... KalElFan Feb 23, 07:36

These mean nothing. {nm} Moviesnob Feb 23, 10:27

Well, if handicapping / odds meant nothing, 100/1 longshots would be as likely to win as 1/5 uber-favorites. We'd all be rich! :-) {nm} KalElFan Feb 23, 10:51

Gold Derby means nothing, not handicapping. Oscar season is full of predictions, this one is just the LA Time's version. Moviesnob Feb 23, 11:00

New thread above -- professional handicapping actually has The Square about the same and The Act of Killing an even bigger favorite. Also... KalElFan Feb 23, 11:49

What an atrocity of an article. The Act Of Killing is the best documentary i've seen in at least this century. {nm} Filmstardust Feb 22, 23:30

And what was the best in the last century. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 22, 23:51

Could be "Shoah," or "Night and Fog," or "Medium Cool," or "Triumph of the Will," or "Hoop Dreams," or "Burden of Dreams". . . second gary Feb 23, 10:39

Then you have not seen The Cove {nm} ankurbe Feb 23, 00:52

+1. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 23, 00:58

I say that there is no "best documentary" of the last century. For folks that really love this stuff, why bother with best and worst? Willroast Feb 23, 13:34

The second he started using loaded terms like snuff was the second I stopped reading. {nm} numbersix_99 Feb 23, 04:32





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