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Which parent doesn't a child need? The father? The mother? Why are we not allowed to discriminate against the minority of the population simply because they're "consenting adults", but yet are more than happy to discriminate against the children in any of those relationships? What gives us the right to say that a child isn't allowed to have a certain kind of parent? That's exactly what we're doing whenever we pass legislation that grants rights for homosexual couples to marry.
The fact still remains that homosexuals have exactly the same rights as everyone else with regards to marriage. They can choose to marry someone of the opposite sex, provided that person consents to that marriage. The fact that they choose not to exercise that right does not mean that they don't already have the same rights as everyone else. Why should they be granted "special rights" above everyone else simply because of their sexual preference? That's discrimination against heterosexuals.
A quote that directly relates to this issue: It's all very simple. If anything is marriage, then everything is marriage. And if everything is marriage, then nothing is marriage at all. "'Marriage equality' becomes 'marriage elasticity,' with the ultimate goal of 'marriage extinction.'". If you legislate that homosexual marriage is legal, then the next thing that will legally become marriage will be group marriage (more than one wife or husband, or one of both), then pedophiles can marry, and then necrophiliacs and those who practice bestiality. In short, as soon as you change the definition once because one minority group wants "special rights", all the other minority groups will demand the same "special rights", and "marriage" becomes scum instead of the glorious union between one man and one woman for life that God designed it to be, and ultimately becomes extinct. Marriage is supposed to be exclusive. The purpose for it is so that children would be brought up in a healthy family environment, where they could learn Godly principles and how to live in accordance with God's Word from their parents, and they could then do the same with their children. Nowadays though people only ever care about themselves and what they want. They are too selfish to think about what the children's needs are. "Screw the children, I don't care how they turn out, I just want to be able to marry my same-sex partner." "Screw the children, I don't care how they turn out, I just want to be able to divorce and marry this other person that I've "fallen in love with"." "Screw the children, I don't care how they turn out, I just want to be able to marry this young teenager." Effectively an argument for homosexual marriage comes down to the fact that people are selfish and only want what they want, they couldn't give a stuff about the impact that it has on other people, their children or other people's children. People have come forward to say that not having a mother, or not having a father, severely stunted their personal development. This is the case in broken families (single parents) *and* homosexual relationships. Are we to advocate that millions of future children should be severely stunted in their personal development simply because one minority group wants "special rights"? The only reason that the homosexual community wants the definition of marriage changed is so that they can point to that as a way to "legitimise" and "justify" their choice of relationship and sexual preference. Why should the children have to pay so that they can feel justified in what they're doing?
Gay Marraige? Do you support it?
mike255
Mar 25, 17:14
Yes - it has been law in Canada for quite some time now. Americans too are moving on.
RotoHockeyYTD2013
Mar 25, 17:56
No, because God doesn't.
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accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 25, 17:59
He told you this personally?
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charlie
Mar 25, 19:28
Yes.
accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 25, 20:09
Adultery is one of the Ten Commandants. I don't see people speaking out against it or making laws against it. So stop the hypocrisy
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JDolphin
Mar 25, 21:53
This is not aimed directly at you A4J, but at using the bible as reason for some actions and ignoring what it says about others.
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JDolphin
Mar 25, 21:56
I didn't see this post until after I posted my response.
accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 25, 22:20
I'm against adultery as much as I'm against gay marriage and have repeatedly said so on here. Where's the hypocrisy?
accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 25, 22:14
Hmmm... providing a legal framework for something isn't the same as criminalizing it. I think divorce may be a better parallel.
RogerMore
Mar 25, 23:26
*not providing a legal framework*, I mean
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RogerMore
Mar 25, 23:31
Screw adultery, I want some heat and light on #5! Damn kids.
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PVL Admin
Mar 26, 00:11
Reading a line from a book written 2000 yrs ago where someone said God said to them, is not personally,
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JDolphin
Mar 25, 22:00
One other thing A4J.....that is not an accurate translation from the Hebrew to English, so the meaning is not even what
Buy BONDS 20
Mar 26, 00:05
Dude, now you are smoking 'bud'. Here is the Hebrew (written in Hebrew) / English (written in English) side by side translation.
PVL Admin
Mar 26, 00:23
Now officially a member of the Correction Club.
RotoHockeyYTD2013
Mar 26, 12:12
And I see nothing about womankind lying with womankind being a bad thing. Oh, and if you should even SEE a woman (much less "lie" with her)
BSmurf
Mar 26, 12:27
Leviticus also bans tattoos, shellfish, polyester, gold jewelry and expensive clothes. Where are the laws preventing those?
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lapuckfan
Mar 26, 16:20
sure
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charlie
Mar 25, 19:28
yes I do...there's worse things in the world to worry about
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tealfan
Mar 25, 19:29
yes - because how does it hurt you if its allowed
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lapuckfan
Mar 25, 19:35
They can claim spousal benefits, and that bites into our taxes. They can do what they want in private.
elchan
Mar 25, 22:57
The net benefit to society is from not treating a significant minority as different from everyone else.
RogerMore
Mar 25, 23:38
they pay the same taxes as you, why should they get any less benefit?
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lapuckfan
Mar 26, 09:16
Tab A and Slot B are no longer needed for reproduction. Some can't seem to get beyond this.
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BSmurf
Mar 26, 12:29
You still need the egg and the sperm, which come from females and males, respectively.
accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 26, 20:40
Are you 4 years old? Tab A is not required to be put into Slot B for procreation. Period. DId you even have Sex Ed Down Under?
BSmurf
Mar 26, 21:21
I have no problem whatsoever with it... {nm}
slappydavid
Mar 25, 19:42
Sure. Limited role of government and all that.
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RogerMore
Mar 25, 20:18
I am ok with gay unions. Just don't call it marriage...
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PVL Admin
Mar 25, 22:41
The trouble is, until and unless all 50 states, and DC, allow equal rights parties in "civil unions" as they do to those in marriages, there
Buy BONDS 20
Mar 25, 23:46
Why does your post pre-suppose what I think? What pigeon hole have you put me in?
PVL Admin
Mar 26, 00:09
I support anyone's right to marry another consenting adult of their choice. Until that time, I believe that no heterosexuals should be
BSmurf
Mar 25, 22:58
I would support a law banning divorce.
accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 25, 23:10
"Until modern times marriage was rarely a matter of free choice, and it was rarely motivated by romantic ...more
PVL Admin
Mar 25, 23:19
How lovely for victims of spousal abuse.
Andre C
Mar 26, 03:50
Is there any proviso in Scripture that says divorce is ok if your spouse is abusing you?
accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 26, 16:00
God/Jesus allows divorce... but you would like to make a law against it?
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RazorHawk
Mar 26, 06:56
Yes, He allows it, but if you'll search the Scriptures you'll also see that He hates it.
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accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 26, 15:53
You know why this issue has to go to the Supreme Court? Because it is heated, charged and people can't agree. It's a poll...
PVL Admin
Mar 25, 23:27
Absolutely. Equal rights for all. No offense to the Bible thumpers, but this is a civil question. There is no established religion in
Buy BONDS 20
Mar 25, 23:39
"No offense to the Bible thumpers" is, in and of itself, offensive. :P You're right though, this is a civic question.
PVL Admin
Mar 25, 23:54
It will hurt people, because it infringes upon the right of the children to have both a mother *and* a father.
accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 26, 00:58
Your point in circular...
whitewalls
Mar 26, 01:05
Children have a basic human right to have a mother *and* a father.
accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 26, 15:52
Since when do we have the right to have a mother and a father? how does that work with single parents?
lapuckfan
Mar 26, 16:13
Not according to a growing chorus of homosexual adoptive parents.
accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 26, 20:37
That's not a growing chorus. That's one person, who happens to be co-founder of the National Capital Tea Party Patriots
RogerMore
Mar 27, 07:38
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!
eyescovered
Mar 26, 07:00
There are no absolutes without a higher authority like God.
accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 26, 15:25
Wow... You lost me there, buddy! Last I checked, religion causes plenty of chaos (war, death, violence).
eyescovered
Mar 26, 17:06
The main cause of war, death and suffering throughout history is not religion.
accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 26, 17:19
There are some specious arguments in this one.
RogerMore
Mar 26, 07:36
As soon as you start to expand the definition of marriage, marriage becomes elastic and ultimately extinct.
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accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 26, 15:27
And your evidence?
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RogerMore
Mar 26, 19:22
Here.
accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 26, 20:36
That's not evidence. That's one person's idea. And it doesn't extend to what you're talking about.
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RogerMore
Mar 26, 20:40
Ha ha ha... I love when Christians use the "If you let gays marry then soon humans will be marrying animals." HA HA HA ...
skamanfu
Mar 26, 13:44
Where did I say anything at all about Hell in my post?
accountant_4_Jesus
Mar 26, 15:50
You didn't say anything about hell in your post, I was just referring to the double standard of Christianity
skamanfu
Mar 26, 16:15
Concert about gay marriage. But a human marriage their pets? Is this civil right
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mike255
Mar 26, 06:30
great poll, lets do abortion next :S
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islander
Mar 26, 06:53
No, sharia law.
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RogerMore
Mar 26, 07:40
Gay Marriage. It is all about Benefits when they file taxes by IRS.
mike255
Mar 26, 08:50
Straight Marriage. It is all about Benefits when they file taxes by IRS.
BSmurf
Mar 26, 12:36
Haha, nice.
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eyescovered
Mar 26, 13:23
As many others have already stated on here, I too am in support of equal rights for all humans.
skamanfu
Mar 26, 13:50
Absolutely not. That whole issue makes me want to throw up.
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Oleg Max
Mar 26, 17:35