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The trouble is, until and unless all 50 states, and DC, allow equal rights parties in "civil unions" as they do to those in marriages, there

Posted by: Buy BONDS 20 (a.k.a mrbinns) on Mar 25, 23:46 in response to PVL Admin's post I am ok with gay unions. Just don't call it marriage...

will not be full and true equality for same sex partners.  If it was federal law that all rights and privileges of marriage applied to civil unions, then it would not matter.

How about we abolish the word "marriage" and make all couples, both same sex and opposite sex, to be in "civil unions."   Would you go for that solution?  Didn't think so.  So don't push this silly term onto other people.  All rights and privileges stem from "marriage"  You cannot escape that word.,,,fir everyone.

Gay Marraige? Do you support it? mike255 Mar 25, 17:14

Yes - it has been law in Canada for quite some time now. Americans too are moving on. RotoHockeyYTD2013 Mar 25, 17:56

No, because God doesn't. {nm} accountant_4_Jesus Mar 25, 17:59

He told you this personally? {nm} charlie Mar 25, 19:28

Yes. accountant_4_Jesus Mar 25, 20:09

Adultery is one of the Ten Commandants. I don't see people speaking out against it or making laws against it. So stop the hypocrisy {nm} JDolphin Mar 25, 21:53

This is not aimed directly at you A4J, but at using the bible as reason for some actions and ignoring what it says about others. {nm} JDolphin Mar 25, 21:56

I didn't see this post until after I posted my response. accountant_4_Jesus Mar 25, 22:20

I'm against adultery as much as I'm against gay marriage and have repeatedly said so on here. Where's the hypocrisy? accountant_4_Jesus Mar 25, 22:14

Hmmm... providing a legal framework for something isn't the same as criminalizing it. I think divorce may be a better parallel. RogerMore Mar 25, 23:26

*not providing a legal framework*, I mean {nm} RogerMore Mar 25, 23:31

Screw adultery, I want some heat and light on #5! Damn kids. {nm} PVL Admin Mar 26, 00:11

Reading a line from a book written 2000 yrs ago where someone said God said to them, is not personally, {nm} JDolphin Mar 25, 22:00

One other thing A4J.....that is not an accurate translation from the Hebrew to English, so the meaning is not even what Buy BONDS 20 Mar 26, 00:05

Dude, now you are smoking 'bud'. Here is the Hebrew (written in Hebrew) / English (written in English) side by side translation. PVL Admin Mar 26, 00:23

Now officially a member of the Correction Club. RotoHockeyYTD2013 Mar 26, 12:12

And I see nothing about womankind lying with womankind being a bad thing. Oh, and if you should even SEE a woman (much less "lie" with her) BSmurf Mar 26, 12:27

Leviticus also bans tattoos, shellfish, polyester, gold jewelry and expensive clothes. Where are the laws preventing those? {nm} lapuckfan Mar 26, 16:20

sure {nm} charlie Mar 25, 19:28

yes I do...there's worse things in the world to worry about {nm} tealfan Mar 25, 19:29

yes - because how does it hurt you if its allowed {nm} lapuckfan Mar 25, 19:35

They can claim spousal benefits, and that bites into our taxes. They can do what they want in private. elchan Mar 25, 22:57

The net benefit to society is from not treating a significant minority as different from everyone else. RogerMore Mar 25, 23:38

they pay the same taxes as you, why should they get any less benefit? {nm} lapuckfan Mar 26, 09:16

Tab A and Slot B are no longer needed for reproduction. Some can't seem to get beyond this. {nm} BSmurf Mar 26, 12:29

You still need the egg and the sperm, which come from females and males, respectively. accountant_4_Jesus Mar 26, 20:40

Are you 4 years old? Tab A is not required to be put into Slot B for procreation. Period. DId you even have Sex Ed Down Under? BSmurf Mar 26, 21:21

I have no problem whatsoever with it... {nm} slappydavid Mar 25, 19:42

Sure. Limited role of government and all that. {nm} RogerMore Mar 25, 20:18

I am ok with gay unions. Just don't call it marriage... {nm} PVL Admin Mar 25, 22:41

The trouble is, until and unless all 50 states, and DC, allow equal rights parties in "civil unions" as they do to those in marriages, there Buy BONDS 20 Mar 25, 23:46

Why does your post pre-suppose what I think? What pigeon hole have you put me in? PVL Admin Mar 26, 00:09

I support anyone's right to marry another consenting adult of their choice. Until that time, I believe that no heterosexuals should be BSmurf Mar 25, 22:58

I would support a law banning divorce. accountant_4_Jesus Mar 25, 23:10

"Until modern times marriage was rarely a matter of free choice, and it was rarely motivated by romantic ...more PVL Admin Mar 25, 23:19

How lovely for victims of spousal abuse. Andre C Mar 26, 03:50

Is there any proviso in Scripture that says divorce is ok if your spouse is abusing you? accountant_4_Jesus Mar 26, 16:00

God/Jesus allows divorce... but you would like to make a law against it? {nm} RazorHawk Mar 26, 06:56

Yes, He allows it, but if you'll search the Scriptures you'll also see that He hates it. {nm} accountant_4_Jesus Mar 26, 15:53

You know why this issue has to go to the Supreme Court? Because it is heated, charged and people can't agree. It's a poll... PVL Admin Mar 25, 23:27

Absolutely. Equal rights for all. No offense to the Bible thumpers, but this is a civil question. There is no established religion in Buy BONDS 20 Mar 25, 23:39

"No offense to the Bible thumpers" is, in and of itself, offensive. :P You're right though, this is a civic question. PVL Admin Mar 25, 23:54

It will hurt people, because it infringes upon the right of the children to have both a mother *and* a father. accountant_4_Jesus Mar 26, 00:58

Your point in circular... whitewalls Mar 26, 01:05

Children have a basic human right to have a mother *and* a father. accountant_4_Jesus Mar 26, 15:52

Since when do we have the right to have a mother and a father? how does that work with single parents? lapuckfan Mar 26, 16:13

Not according to a growing chorus of homosexual adoptive parents. accountant_4_Jesus Mar 26, 20:37

That's not a growing chorus. That's one person, who happens to be co-founder of the National Capital Tea Party Patriots RogerMore Mar 27, 07:38

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! eyescovered Mar 26, 07:00

There are no absolutes without a higher authority like God. accountant_4_Jesus Mar 26, 15:25

Wow... You lost me there, buddy! Last I checked, religion causes plenty of chaos (war, death, violence). eyescovered Mar 26, 17:06

The main cause of war, death and suffering throughout history is not religion. accountant_4_Jesus Mar 26, 17:19

There are some specious arguments in this one. RogerMore Mar 26, 07:36

As soon as you start to expand the definition of marriage, marriage becomes elastic and ultimately extinct. {nm} accountant_4_Jesus Mar 26, 15:27

And your evidence? {nm} RogerMore Mar 26, 19:22

Here. accountant_4_Jesus Mar 26, 20:36

That's not evidence. That's one person's idea. And it doesn't extend to what you're talking about. {nm} RogerMore Mar 26, 20:40

Ha ha ha... I love when Christians use the "If you let gays marry then soon humans will be marrying animals." HA HA HA ... skamanfu Mar 26, 13:44

Where did I say anything at all about Hell in my post? accountant_4_Jesus Mar 26, 15:50

You didn't say anything about hell in your post, I was just referring to the double standard of Christianity skamanfu Mar 26, 16:15

Concert about gay marriage. But a human marriage their pets? Is this civil right {nm} mike255 Mar 26, 06:30

great poll, lets do abortion next :S {nm} islander Mar 26, 06:53

No, sharia law. {nm} RogerMore Mar 26, 07:40

Gay Marriage. It is all about Benefits when they file taxes by IRS. mike255 Mar 26, 08:50

Straight Marriage. It is all about Benefits when they file taxes by IRS. BSmurf Mar 26, 12:36

Haha, nice. {nm} eyescovered Mar 26, 13:23

As many others have already stated on here, I too am in support of equal rights for all humans. skamanfu Mar 26, 13:50

Absolutely not. That whole issue makes me want to throw up. {nm} Oleg Max Mar 26, 17:35





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