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And a powerful appeal is also found within the article I linked to above:

Posted by: Facto on Jul 11, 04:56 in response to Facto's post Alright, check this out - Holland or Netherland is easy...

The fact that there are also many Dutch people (including our government and the notorious Netherlands Bureau for Tourism) prepared to insult other people as long as it makes them any richer does not change this. Also, thanks to this official policy many people don't know any better. To them Holland is the name for their country to be used in a nationalistic 'we are better than anyone else' kind of context. It's sad and ironic to see that in this time, when immigrants of all sorts are encouraged to preserve their own cultures, governmental policy is aimed at replacing the old native cultures by a single artificial, uniform sort of national feeling. It should be added that the national government usually consists of people from the actual Holland who care little about the rest of the country. It was the government that after World War Two promoted the use of 'Holland' to counter the regional awareness in especially the catholic southern provinces, where Holland was still thought of as an occupier, a completely different country. It is true that those people who prefer to use the word Holland have indeed in most cases lost contact with their own culture and replaced it with something artificial.

See also this Google search result, for further reading/investigating on your own

The Hollands/the Netherlands debate -first off,I'm wondering if other constituent countries within the kingdom have their own national teams Facto Jul 09, 15:19

Seems all the countries have their own national football teams - witness the Caribbean countries' membership in the CONCACAF Facto Jul 09, 15:31

How many of you had thought that the EU (European Union) is well represented within the Americas? Well, seems it is: Facto Jul 09, 16:21

I learned something else new from that link - Greece has an "autonomous monastic region" How cool is that. {nm} daveart Jul 09, 16:24

Haven't checked it, but lemme guess - Macedonia? {nm} Facto Jul 09, 16:32

Disregard that; it's Mount Athos, *within* the Greek region of Macedonia... {nm} Facto Jul 09, 18:16

Holland and The Netherlands are both correct. The confusion is due to... JMT Jul 10, 01:24

I don't get this logic. Both regions named Holland are to the west, facing the coast. All the rest of the Netherlands is to the north, east Facto Jul 11, 02:25

Or actually, in English it's called "The Flying Dutchman", but the original title seems to have been Der fliegende Hollânder. Facto Jul 11, 02:33

Alright, check this out - Holland or Netherland is easy to google, it actually even comes up as a suggestion, when you type "holland or.. " Facto Jul 11, 04:23

And a powerful appeal is also found within the article I linked to above: Facto Jul 11, 04:56

I stand in awe of all this fact-digging. Your name is aptly chosen. But... JMT Jul 12, 04:16

Yeah, that part about the Dutch.. Unexplored territory, so far :-) However, I think that article made good and fair points. Holland may be Facto Jul 12, 06:44

Let's also for instance see what Berkeley University (and various other sources, including official Dutch ones) state on the issue: Facto Jul 12, 07:34

Haha... you are obsessed ! Thanks anyway. Good research {nm} JMT Jul 12, 11:36

I love this kinda stuff :-) Facto Jul 12, 12:56





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