Playing & Trading Strategy

Sometimes I hate the exchange and the way stocks inexplicably move - due to players playing the players... **2, here's looking at you! {nm} Facto Feb 09, 16:10

If this game was any easier, EVERYONE would be billionaires. ndmaster Feb 12, 07:48

Bought {nm} tatoufan Feb 09, 03:36

SOLD. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 09, 08:53

This is a call to action. You need to be sanctioned. {nm} elchan2012 Feb 09, 09:54

I was going to say bought lEGO at 48 on Razorhawks report a while back for AFRAM. He said, he would trade LEGO, but tatoufan Feb 09, 11:16

It's the OW-derivative that will be a big payday, tomorrow evening... {nm} Facto Feb 09, 17:42

@moviesnob/rogermore - Advice requested (attempt #2) PVL Admin Feb 08, 16:29

I think Roger's advice about looking at the data and knowing what we know (high delist values over winter holidays) Moviesnob Feb 08, 20:37

Thank you for the advice. You make a lot of good points and I need to think this through further. I like the idea about layering in PVL Admin Feb 08, 21:48

Thanksgiving releases tend to have poor legs by delist, though that doesn't mean poor legs overall. RogerMore Feb 09, 06:50

ah, so just for that week, it would make sense to have a sep genre for the twilights & the harry potters (probably "blockbusters") Moviesnob Feb 09, 08:20

Building on Moviesnob's point, you may want to structure this by keeping the broad categories and then subdividing them based on results. RogerMore Feb 09, 07:10

@moviesnob/rogermore - Advice requested PVL Admin Feb 08, 16:26

Woah! Do not open. please scrub. format went to the poo poo. {nm} PVL Admin Feb 08, 16:28

I would probably tinker with the actual dates and go from there. But summer = first big May release to mid-August and Christmas = two weeks RogerMore Feb 08, 16:36

(What I mean by tinker with the dates is identify the weekends with DMs that are different from the norm and use those to set parameters {nm} RogerMore Feb 08, 16:38

I get it. I need to populate more data before I will know what to ask for. TY {nm} PVL Admin Feb 08, 16:42

Thanks for this. I will work with this for now and once I have converted the "unknown unknown" to the "known unknown" I will ask for more. {nm} PVL Admin Feb 08, 16:41

i tend to think summer ends with the end of July. Kids are still out of school in August, but its a big vacation month, so that affects Moviesnob Feb 08, 20:49

elchan -- followup to our discussion. See Port Monkeys league. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Feb 07, 05:22

what an idea - Sea Monkeys Port! {nm} forlorne Feb 07, 12:39

Is this useful for anyone? If it is, I will post when complete...(Average delist multiples by Genre and Rating) PVL Admin Feb 06, 19:13

Yes, it would be useful. I'd be interested in it. {nm} elchan2012 Feb 06, 19:57

you'll need to normalize for seasonality. {nm} Moviesnob Feb 06, 22:50

Good avice. Thx {nm} PVL Admin Feb 08, 12:08

What dates would you use for "Summer" PVL Admin Feb 08, 15:00

Thanks a lot for this. I think I was asking about it in one of your leagues a while back and it's great to finally see some numbers on Willroast Feb 06, 23:59

Looks good but I agree with Moviesnob that season can make a big difference and I'd be interested in that further breakdown also) {nm} JDolphin Feb 07, 12:02

Let me know if you'd like more data - I have loads of box office data, you would just need to add rating and genre info {nm} RogerMore Feb 07, 18:03

Thanks for the offer. I have a lot of data, but if I want/need more, I'll be sure to pipe up. Thank you. PVL Admin Feb 08, 12:10

What's the calculation for OW's and where do I find them? Thanks, OW is new to me. {nm} Telly Feb 06, 05:47

how OW's work is written on every OW stockpage {nm} RazorHawk Feb 06, 06:32

Yes, but there is no calculations there... Telly Feb 06, 07:27

What needs to be calculated? The opening weekend gains IS the price adjusted. They are all listed under derivatives. PVL Admin Feb 06, 08:00

Great, that is what I did not know and it's not explained under the OW's, so there you go. Thanks. {nm} Telly Feb 06, 09:17

"The price of an Opening Weekend Warrant is based on the weekend box office" {nm} Antibody Feb 06, 10:16

"based on" could mean anything! For a new player how does that explain the gross of $25mil means it's $25 stock price? That's a formula. {nm} Telly Feb 06, 11:45

BTW, My question was valid as stocks are normally calculated, i.e. 2.7 multiplier. How was I supposed to know OW's Telly Feb 06, 09:19

how OW's work is written on every OW stockpage {nm} RazorHawk Feb 06, 10:27

Look at any one of them and show me where it says the value is equal to the BO of that weekend., i.e. $10 = $10 mil. {nm} Telly Feb 06, 11:38

And "based on" does not mean equate to. The blurb on OW pages does not articulate how it's calculated. {nm} Telly Feb 06, 11:41

No, it does not. It simply says it's "based on" the weekend gross, which tells a new player nothing. Explaining the formula would work bette {nm} Telly Feb 06, 11:43

The OW Formula for Adjust can be found on the Market Calendar. (See Inside). RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 06, 15:10

thanks for weighing in with the answer to a question that wasn't asked {nm} lapuckfan Feb 06, 15:25

OWs halt on Fridays, not Saturdays (as you posted). {nm} RazorHawk Feb 06, 15:53

Hey look, someone actually answered the question and wasn't smug about it. THANKS. :) {nm} Telly Feb 06, 20:00

This question was answered at 8 am today... Why are we still talking about it, or in some cases, trying to answer it again? {nm} PVL Admin Feb 06, 17:59

because the only person in this thread who answered it was Rotohockey. {nm} Telly Feb 07, 08:54

So your confrmation at 9:17 was what? Well, I guess if you want help next time I won't take the time... {nm} PVL Admin Feb 07, 11:09

The rest of the thread was about the calculations not being listed where some posters said it was... Telly Feb 07, 12:51

Will be Happy to Answer any other Questions that you may have. Happy Trading. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 07, 14:58

Started a new league for those who use HowProfitable.Com. So people that are not members can ask questions and socialize. elchan2012 Feb 05, 14:38

you started a league for players who do not use your website... so they can talk about your website... that they do not use? {nm} RazorHawk Feb 05, 15:37

No. People who DO use his website, but -- like me -- have not registered for accounts... which provide some additional benefits. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Feb 05, 17:02

Lol, that would be silly. {nm} elchan2012 Feb 05, 22:49

Good idea. {nm} PVL Admin Feb 05, 18:33

** This post has been removed by the forum moderator! ** StarBond Fund Feb 05, 03:54

like to see hsx start ... jaymel Feb 04, 13:56

How would they work? {nm} RogerMore Feb 04, 14:16

I am speculating here but don't think you could have calls or puts on StarBonds. Dank Feb 06, 14:42

sigh, im down 365k on lego.ow, why? because its supposed to be so well recieved...somebody please give me a straight answer, without ridicul horrorfanatic Feb 03, 21:30

Well received by who? Just wondering which media you are referencing. BO.com has OW at 40 (of course they aren't always right) {nm} JDolphin Feb 03, 21:44

well, i saw it either on deadline or variety,one of those, one of the ones that are supposed to be trusted sites, i dont look anywhere else {nm} horrorfanatic Feb 03, 23:13

You have to remember that stocks of movies that are opening soon always have a lot of movement up OR down the week of opening... Flash Feb 04, 08:18

Funny, I'm up 460k. I guess some players did not think it would open at 50 and shorted it. FYI: MTC is 43.8, BO is 43... PVL Admin Feb 04, 10:11

It's a mystery to me. I don't see a justification for the current price. {nm} Muad' Dib Feb 05, 10:05

I shorted the lego.ow at first because of the difference between H$50 and most of the prediction I saw ... MattW Feb 05, 18:11

B/C of Reviews and the Marketing campaign that was amazing {nm} Dank Feb 05, 20:04

Hope you guys covered this!!! {nm} Dank Feb 06, 11:12

LEGO.OW FLOAT IS MUCH SMALLER, WITH SHORTS IT'S GONNA MOVE A LOT! Dank Feb 06, 13:38

back in Telly Feb 02, 10:33

saturday halts? Telly Feb 02, 10:38

yup, moviesstocks still halt on Sat at 6 pacific time, but OW warrants halt at 10am pacific time on Friday daveart Feb 02, 11:10

so does everyone play these OW warrants? I mean, is it worth trading and does it have a nice ROI? Telly Feb 02, 11:50

they get issued about 9 days before the movie opens wide & then they delist on the Monday after, so they are quick play {nm} daveart Feb 02, 14:56

A lot of people. If you're good at picking OWs, it's a good earning opportunity. And it's also a reminder of the old "halt on Friday" days. RogerMore Feb 03, 11:16

Well, if we guessed at everything without information, might as well play lottery. I think it's good that we can make informed choices. {nm} elchan2012 Feb 03, 10:36

The game was great for years before it switched to saturdays for a reason Telly Feb 03, 10:47

Put a fork in it! EURO has finished. {nm} tatoufan Feb 02, 01:58

Thanks & enjoy your returns. {nm} tatoufan Feb 02, 02:56

Nicely Done. Thanks for the PROFITS. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 02, 04:34

It's a pleasure! {nm} tatoufan Feb 02, 09:25

congratulations and thanks for the $$$$! cant wait for the next one {nm} horrorfanatic Feb 03, 14:29

Good job, as usual on [EURO] {nm} StarBond Fund Feb 05, 03:53

Thanks for the fake money! {nm} <font color="navy">=Flash</font> Dec 11, 11:34

Congratulations to January's PVL winners (results inside) - new players always welcome. PVL Admin Feb 01, 12:56

"Graduates" have been removed from leagues. Be sure to apply to next level. {nm} PVL Admin Feb 01, 12:57

Well done oneman. TY {nm} slappydavid Feb 01, 21:45

This kind of competition makes me stay active. Join a PVL, you won't regret it! {nm} slappydavid Feb 01, 21:47

Thanks, Competition is good {nm} oneman Feb 04, 16:11

2M in the red today. Anyway to turn that around on a Saturday, or should I just give up? Losses come from daytraded top movie movers. {nm} Facto Feb 01, 11:31

Seems like a lot of people were in the red yesterday. I'm down 500k+ so far today despite some decent gains on a few stocks. {nm} ~JPV~ Feb 02, 10:45

It would've been so easy to prevent - but once the damage was done... And thus ended my 54-day hot streak (green days)! {nm} Facto Feb 03, 21:30

great news for infinitely polar bear clyde Feb 01, 10:06

Acquired by Sony Classics - please see Movies Board Post. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Feb 01, 10:31

Cracked H$700 mil. {nm} The Claw Jan 31, 20:01

Nicely Done. Snap Crackle Pop. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 31, 20:08

the clawwwwww...congrats! {nm} tealfan Jan 31, 21:26

well done there blaze223 Jan 31, 23:23

That's great! Keep going. {nm} PVL Admin Feb 01, 13:09

Congrats! {nm} Dank Feb 06, 15:19

Well, assuming the market doesn't collapse in the next 3-1/2 hours it seems I've finally hit the big B. {nm} DTravel Jan 30, 20:36

congrats! {nm} tealfan Jan 30, 20:47

Congratulations {nm} oneman Jan 30, 20:58

Booya! {nm} eyescovered Jan 31, 03:52

Well done! {nm} slappydavid Jan 31, 03:55

Nicely Done. Happy Travels. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 31, 04:07

Great Job!!! {nm} Quickslver99 Jan 31, 06:21

Super! {nm} islander Jan 31, 09:02

Bravo!!!! Well done. {nm} tatoufan Jan 31, 11:15

congrats, onto 2B now! {nm} Oleg Max Jan 31, 12:06

Ahhh...nothing like a good market collapse to make life a little more stressful! :-) {nm} Flash Jan 31, 12:19

WTG! {nm} PVL Admin Jan 31, 12:20

congratulations D!! {nm} horrorfanatic Jan 31, 17:10

ok, after taking a hard look at them im giving starbond adjusts another try and it had better work, or else...or else ill be very cranky {nm} horrorfanatic Jan 30, 15:13

*is tempted bring out the handle to crank with* :P {nm} DTravel Jan 30, 17:18

Have you never heard of this fantastic web site where they list the expected adjust prices of bonds, weeks even month ahead of time? elchan2012 Jan 30, 18:39

Or this one, with adjust prices more than a month ahead of time? I kid. Love ya elchan. :-) KaiGee Jan 30, 19:28

yes, yes, kaigee it was your site i was taking a hard look at...and you i'll blame if everything goes south...=) {nm} horrorfanatic Jan 30, 21:32

*Sends Charter Golden Compass via Fedex. Compass Locked on Due North.* {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 31, 13:51

It's pretty sad when you have a $2.6B port, and you log in and see you're only up a lousy $15 thousand today! lol Flash Jan 30, 07:36

"$860M Sitting around...to lazy to buy..." {nm} RazorHawk Jan 30, 08:37

Yep...kinda silly. I went on a big buying bindge a week or so ago... will do another one soon. :-) {nm} Flash Jan 30, 16:08