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Sure, but the political angle would not be "pro" or "anti" American. The political angle would be about a powerless people dependent...

Posted by: second gary (a.k.a 80181597) on May 19, 12:49 in response to elchan's post They as a pro-American as you can get. Capt. America was...

... upon a clique of magic beings, wholly different from the citizenry; a film about a defenceless, infantilized nation, needing a Department of Homeland Security and all of its elememts (or its ilk) to look after it.Ā 

Believe in conspiracies? Who thinks The Avengers phenomenon, has been orchestrated ... elchan May 19, 10:40

huh? {nm} ryancoke2 May 19, 10:53

Of Course its been orchestrated by Marvel since Iron Man came out ! {nm} gogreenytd May 19, 10:56

:) {nm} dsbman May 19, 11:00

Yeah, a year before the Hunger Games was published, someone came up with this brilliant idea to begin planning for a movie to counter it. not2fast May 19, 11:01

Remember a hero is only a sandwich. {nm} werewolf123 May 19, 12:10

Oh... and chemtrails! {nm} Kevman66 May 19, 11:05

I'm not saying the movie itself was the orchestration, but its domination. They could have picked any fluff movie to distract people elchan May 19, 11:09

Who is this 'they' you speak of? {nm} amnesiac May 19, 11:18

Me. I did it. And if it wasn't for those meddling kids, I woulda gotten away with it too! *twirls mustache* {nm} Paul2k May 19, 11:22

Actually, The Avengers is the first Marvel film to adequately address the pseudo-Fascist nature of most of these characters tawdryhepburn May 19, 11:55

I haven't seen it, but aren't the Avengers a kind of standing army? Or are they more of a militia which can be summoned? second gary May 19, 12:09

They as a pro-American as you can get. Capt. America was conceived in during WWII era, as American propaganda. {nm} elchan May 19, 12:29

Sure, but the political angle would not be "pro" or "anti" American. The political angle would be about a powerless people dependent... second gary May 19, 12:49

Yes, but that's still deflects the anger away from the government to some bunch of external entities... elchan May 19, 12:55

I think the nature of the antagonist / threat (external, as in AVNGR, or an internal decadence, as in HGAME) matters less than the... second gary May 19, 13:16

Yes, that's the point AVNGR is saying trust us, we'll save you. While HGAME says trust only yourself, or the few who are close to you. {nm} elchan May 19, 14:42

The South, until Lincoln was elected, controlled the US Federal government. DTravel May 19, 22:51

I never can remember, is it shiny side in or shiny side out when making aluminum foils hats? {nm} Tanker May 19, 11:26

Just wear the Timberlake-backed FoilDoras. Tin foil fedora! Kevman66 May 19, 11:33

Ideally the type with two shiny sides. One to reflect external signals, and the other to keep your brain waves from leaking out. {nm} elchan May 19, 11:46

You mean the movie that (spoils) RogerMore May 19, 11:36

Yes, fear against secret shadowy organizations, like SHIELD is comical fluff. But, inciting fear against your government ... elchan May 19, 11:43

I wasnt aware that the government forcing children to kill each other for our entertainment was such a pressing issue. {nm} RogerMore May 19, 12:48

You don't think that the children of the American District being sent to kill children of the Arabic District is a relevant issue? elchan May 19, 13:00

If there were a shadowy world government behind it all, you might have a point. RogerMore May 19, 13:04

Unlike move shadowy figures, the real ones are really secret. They are in the open and yet unseen... elchan May 19, 13:10

Because all of 'em in 1 place is a more tempting target? And how did YOU get in on the secrets? And why are they letting you tell it? {nm} forlorne May 19, 13:30

This is the beauty behind popularizing movies like AVNGR and later MIB3 is... elchan May 19, 13:39

So why was HGAME allowed to get so popular? And what did this conspiracy do to make AVNGR so successful? RogerMore May 19, 15:09

Ha ha. HGAME wasn't "allowed" to be popular, it was popular because people identified with the message. elchan May 19, 15:33

They do. At the moment I am reflecting on why some people prefer complex explanations over the simplest one. RogerMore May 19, 16:02

It's because experience tells some people that simplicity is usually contrived. {nm} elchan May 19, 16:09

Sorry, but the most contrived thing here is your conspiracy theory. You haven't even explained how it was orchestrated. {nm} RogerMore May 19, 17:37

The Avengers phenomenon has been orchestrated by people looking to make a lot of money, and that's it. {nm} shadowking May 19, 11:47

I'm all for a good conspiracy theory discussion for the fun of it, but this attempt is utterly ridiculous... LanceStorm22 May 19, 11:54

Titanic. It's in the name. {nm} Facto May 19, 13:34

Yes, you should read about the conspiracy involing, Titanic, James Cameron, and the Masons. {nm} elchan May 19, 13:43

If the conspirators are that powerful, let 'em rule! {nm} forlorne May 19, 13:23

Bigfoot and Elvis were also involved but I suspect Bigfoot is simply being used as a patsy? {nm} mrbeankc May 19, 13:32

I think Hunger Games was to distract us from Twilight...Avengers from Hunger Games...Spider-Man from Avengers...Dark Knight from Spider-Man. Catzan May 19, 13:34

You left out MIB3 in the chain. ;-) {nm} elchan May 19, 13:44

MIB3? I don't remember that one...just some red flashy pen... Catzan May 19, 15:23

there are meds you can take. seriously. {nm} tradermark May 19, 13:46

I take them regularly, but still have the same thoughts. {nm} elchan May 19, 14:29

Don't buy the generics then. Spring for the good stuff. {nm} Tanker May 19, 17:12





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