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Well, okay, good and serious answer, but

Posted by: Toruk Facto (a.k.a Facto) on Jan 04, 21:33 in response to second gary's post I appreciate that many reviewers who have enjoyed and...

personally, I didn't find it interesting, and what was supposed to be beautiful merely annoyed me.

I'm not sure whether he had a point here. But I believe his own sexual orientation, unless I'm mistaken, shows through here. He seems to have little knowledge of women, or how it feels to actually love a woman. Instead, it appears to me he has some notion of women being like the image they send out whenever they feel rambunctious or need to vent a little, have some fun. Does he not understand the essential separation between their real ideals and attitudes, and the way they show off? Perhaps he would, if he had been an actual lover of women, and not of men (men being far more promiscuous, as has been documented, not least as far as the gay nightclub scene is concerned - btw, I meant to write promiscuous above as well, not nymphomaniac, but there's not that much of a difference.. )

I don't find Penelope Cruz that smashingly beautiful, and her character here was fully deplorable - a very self-centered, self-serving and bimbo-ish primadonna/diva of an actress.

I'd go into more detail, if not for the perils of serving spoilers, and for the fact that it's been almost 6 months since I saw it, so I may stumble.. :-)

I love the way you analysed the movie, though, and I'm sure Almodovar employed some deft touches (such as that car incident) that displayed once more his sophistication and vision, but it doesn't change my perception that this was more of a lazy exercise of his - perhaps to see whether he could get away with it?

So Who Saw What Last Week? (me - nada) {nm} islander Jan 04, 11:20

Vantage Point- B {nm} ndmaster Jan 04, 11:23

500 Days of Summer - B-, Changeling, - A, Up in the Air - B+, Squeakquel - B {nm} lapuckfan Jan 04, 11:28

The Lovely Bones - B, Universal Soldier: Regeneration - B-, {nm} wrongturn687 Jan 04, 11:37

Up In the Air: A, Princess and the Frog: A-, Avatar (again): A, The Young Victoria: B- {nm} CSBD Jan 04, 11:37

Midnight (1939) A , The Palm Beach Story (1942) A , Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers: Paris 1959 B + , and... joeoftexas Jan 04, 11:38

It's complicated. B+ {nm} Toruk Facto Jan 04, 11:46

Nine, B+; Paul Blart - Mall Cop, C; Emipre of the Sun, B+ {nm} edzep Jan 04, 11:50

Ocean's 13 (B)...Inglorious basterds (B)...Aliens (A) tealfan Jan 04, 11:57

UPAIR A-, Brothers B, The Road B, Sherlock Holmes D for Dreck, A Serious Man (A), Out of the Past (A), Eyes Without a Face (A) goodvibe61 Jan 04, 12:01

! You're the only one besides myself that I've seen put a D on Holmes. I'm more of a Jeremy Brett guy, though. {nm} edzep Jan 04, 15:34

What was so subpar about SHOLM, in you two guys' opinions? It's by far Ritchie's biggest success, anyways. It was alright holiday Toruk Facto Jan 04, 16:58

i didn't see it cuz it looked like poopoo but in no way should Sherlock Holmes be mixed up with Steampunking... {nm} Apokalips Jan 04, 19:38

Steampunk/Steampunking.. What does it actually mean? I didn't get the reference... {nm} Toruk Facto Jan 04, 21:52

Nevermind, I googled it - that wasn't hard... {nm} Toruk Facto Jan 04, 23:30

Avatar A+, The Road B, Tron C- (hasn't held up well over the years). {nm} FooFan Jan 04, 12:08

Charlie Wilsons War B, The ( J. Lewis ) Bellboy C+, Conf. of a Shopaholic B, Let the right one in ( 2nd viewing ) A- {nm} JMT Jan 04, 12:47

Hurt Locker, A // Up In The Air, B+ // I Love You Beth Cooper, B // Ghost Town, B- // Invention of Lying, B+ {nm} john Jan 04, 13:05

9 (not Nine) B; Forrest Gump A+; Blind Side B+ ; Invictus FAIL {nm} bennyboy10 Jan 04, 13:41

Nine, Sherlock Holmes and Avatar all in one evening. Triple Bill !! {nm} SteveWhiz Jan 04, 14:01

I saw Avatar (2nd viewing, 2D this time) and Sherlock Holmes back to back in a movie theatre in one evening this holiday - but I was well Toruk Facto Jan 04, 14:24

Up In the Air A (tempted to say A+) and Broken Embraces B+ (wld have been B- w/o the hilarious ref to Woman On the Verge of a Nerv. Brkdn). {nm} Diapason Jan 04, 14:04

looks like a lot of people had very good movie weeks, nice :) Hopefully I will have time to catch one this week {nm} islander Jan 04, 15:23

"Broken Embraces," "Up in the air," "Sherlock Holmes," all very fine. In SHOLM, my only beef apparent peril without consequences. second gary Jan 04, 15:52

I have big beefs with Broken Embraces. Toruk Facto Jan 04, 17:13

I appreciate that many reviewers who have enjoyed and praised other Almodovar have felt the door was open to dislike "Broken Embraces." second gary Jan 04, 18:56

Well, okay, good and serious answer, but Toruk Facto Jan 04, 21:33

A couple of years ago I gave a talk on the courtesan / prostitute who was the model for the hero... second gary Jan 04, 22:06

More excellent, informative and valuable points, but Toruk Facto Jan 04, 22:25

The French researcher was Alexandre Parent (aka Parent-Duchatelet). Concerning the imdb.com negative consensus you describe... second gary Jan 05, 05:48

A couple of things there (one spoiler) Toruk Facto Jan 05, 09:41





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