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Just wanted to give a thank you to Rocket123 (and kaigee's charts) for the strategy guides on his league pages. Very informative... NOLEAFCLOVR Aug 24, 12:01

Slow bleeder works just needs a little patience i have some pretty good gains from some of them {nm} blaze223 Aug 24, 12:15

it does work for sure and yes, patience is needed. i have a couple right now and they're already starting to pay out. {nm} NOLEAFCLOVR Aug 24, 12:21

Thank you for your post. ...and you are welcome. {nm} PVL Admin Aug 25, 23:35

New league for trading Penny Stocks. Join now! elchan Aug 22, 21:31

Oops, I guess inline html is not parsed. elchan Aug 22, 21:32

This is a bad idea. You should only trade using one account. {nm} Antibody Aug 23, 14:19

I thought HSX allowed more than 1 port, as long as you traded differently, not manipping prices?? No?? {nm} Flash Aug 23, 17:30

Here's a link to the league... edzep - Port Monkey! Aug 23, 05:45

If you start a second penny account, you should probably not trade penny stocks in your main account to avoid any chance Antibody Aug 23, 14:24

Good idea, we don't want people manipulating the penny stock for their normal account. I'll add that to the rules. {nm} elchan Aug 23, 15:40

Problems. edzep - Port Monkey! Aug 23, 17:11

Migrate over slowly, maybe. They're probably more making you a fortune, but being in a league can augment the fun. {nm} elchan Aug 23, 17:13

"more" ="not" {nm} elchan Aug 23, 17:31

Be careful. A league where everyone buys and holds the same stocks could be taken as coordinated trading. {nm} KaiGee Aug 23, 14:13

Well, we are talking about over 1/3 or the market, with each player limited to some subset of that. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Aug 23, 14:15

Yep, I think 100 stock limit per port, would prevent any kind of monoply or coordinated stock movement {nm} elchan Aug 23, 15:43

what happen a player didn't join your league? It can effect hsx market mike255 Aug 24, 16:10

If someone is not in the league, there they don't need to follow the rules of the league, just the rules of the game in general. elchan Aug 24, 17:12

Har, my WOREM holding is up 157,000%. Definitely a new record for my penny plays. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Aug 21, 15:27

I bought in at .07, but played the stock. So I don't have a nifty % gain, but i do have the moolah :) {nm} PVL Admin Aug 22, 00:05

Love to get free virtually free H$. What made you to buy and hold this one? elchan Aug 22, 08:50

Money to spare. I buy and hold EVERY C,D,P,W stock of 10 cents or less. edzep - Port Monkey! Aug 22, 10:43

Too bad, I don't have that 'problem'. ;-) {nm} elchan Aug 22, 16:52

Oh, here's a better update. More numbers, and profit. edzep - Port Monkey! Aug 22, 19:23

You know this sounds like fun. I'm thinking of starting a league for playing just penny stocks. elchan Aug 22, 20:41

Interesting... edzep - Port Monkey! Aug 22, 21:38

Check out the league, 'Penny Pinchers'. I just added it. elchan Aug 22, 21:47

Jdolphin I am trying sell it 20 cent per share. So I can make a little profit mike255 Aug 23, 14:54

Nice Strategy.I Too Bought Some Penny Stocks,But None Of Them Moved Up Yet. Hsxman Aug 22, 15:46

Robotech was .50 May 7th of this year before first big run now over $10.00 (with no news) {nm} momentum858 Aug 22, 20:59

Yeah, it did have "news".....Antibody posted MEW listings for Robotech and Voltron on May 8 alfpaulytd2012 Aug 22, 21:21

That was cool. {nm} Hsxman Aug 22, 22:33

You think I am crazy buying 1 cent stock now who have last laugh mike255 Aug 23, 08:15

No, we said you were crazy for selling them at 10-20 cents - this is a long term hit it big strategy {nm} JDolphin Aug 23, 13:03

Distributor grosses for next 3 years. Hope it shows up better pasting as text. elchan Aug 21, 07:41

Oops, Indomina should $83.53 gross be had the wrong link in excel. Here's the corrected table: elchan Aug 21, 07:47

I don't get it... {nm} slappydavid Aug 21, 07:51

So basically Weinstein ends up on top in the next 3 years, but they are very back loaded to 2014. (HOBT3, SPID5) elchan Aug 21, 07:53

This is not a good indication, trading prices can vary a lot, especially in 3 years. Plus, studio funds only last 1 year... {nm} slappydavid Aug 21, 07:55

You might be better just looking at which studio has more blockbusters during the next year... {nm} slappydavid Aug 21, 07:56

So the fund live will run from 2012-2013, right? I can count the number of blockbusters. What gross would a blockbuster be? >$100M elchan Aug 21, 08:14

Studio funds run from september to september. Don't overanalize it... :) {nm} slappydavid Aug 21, 08:24

Well, don't know if it's a GOOD indication, but it is an indicator. I think it's a good relative measure. elchan Aug 21, 08:06

You need fast movers! slappydavid Aug 21, 08:22

I do not understand anything that is in this thread... RazorHawk Aug 21, 08:11

I have a macro pull the current trading values from the site, and assign the distributor. Looks like the excel sort scrambled some values. elchan Aug 21, 08:18

Work in progress. ;-) {nm} elchan Aug 21, 08:20

I see Up-up- and away is having another trading frenzy,if you want lose money why not just give me the $5mill blaze223 Aug 20, 12:50

Because that's not nearly as fun!!! I really do have a strategy...and a goal...and a plan!! {nm} up_up_and_away Aug 21, 05:02

First portfolio to LOSE $1 Billion? This is not meant as a slam - I'd be impressed if intentionally did it! :) {nm} BSmurf Aug 21, 07:30

Don't stop at losing $1 Billion. You have the potential for epic losses. You could be the first to cross the negative $ 1 Billion barrier. {nm} Piaoliang Aug 21, 07:46

What are they? (serious question, not a criticism) {nm} RogerMore Aug 21, 09:14

Patience young grasshopper. {nm} up_up_and_away Aug 21, 10:02

wow, now he needs to quit all of the billionaire leagues he is in {nm} daveart Aug 21, 08:46

Why? You need to be a billionaire to join. Do you have to be a billionaire to remain a member? {nm} up_up_and_away Aug 21, 09:17

Some leagues - I'm thinking of PVL's multi-billion league - would kick you out if your port was outside the scope of the league. Roger More Aug 21, 11:53

Yeah, I know. They may decide to kick me out, but I'm not quitting. {nm} up_up_and_away Aug 21, 12:50

and I was kidding (sort of) above; when will you announce your goal/plan ? {nm} daveart Aug 21, 17:40

I really wasn't planning on making an announcement. I'm starting to feel like I am running for President. up_up_and_away Aug 22, 05:15

If you're talking about general strategy rather than specific stocks, you'll be okay. RogerMore Aug 22, 13:24

Well I reach a major milestone, $100M. Might not last the night, but should be solidified tomorrow, when the weekend delists occur. {nm} elchan Aug 19, 20:40

Congratulations! ($3M, $100M and $1B are the only real $ milestones IMO) RogerMore Aug 19, 20:54

$-100M is a rather significant Milestone, IMHO. Very few have accomplished that. Harder than one thinks. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Aug 20, 05:44

Sure - but it's like 10 billion. 99.99% of people don't achieve it. Those three are within reach of almost everyone, if they apply themself {nm} RogerMore Aug 20, 12:17

-$100M. Hmmm... might be a fun counter-intuitive game to try. ;-) {nm} rayw Aug 21, 07:15

That's a good rule. {nm} JohnTEQP Aug 20, 19:14

Well done! {nm} slappydavid Aug 19, 21:04

Very Well Done.I Hope You Will Cross More Milestones. :) Hsxman Aug 19, 21:28

pretty number!...congrats! {nm} tealfan Aug 19, 22:48

Very nice trading, fwiw I think you would do a great job managing a studio fund this fall, if you were interested. {nm} stevie1der328 Aug 20, 04:53

What studios are left? Can I still choose my own? {nm} elchan Aug 20, 05:58

Here's a link that might help you... slappydavid Aug 20, 06:04

Agreed! The new batch should come up in a month or so, it's a great time to apply... {nm} slappydavid Aug 20, 05:58

Thanks for the tip, I'll do some number crunching and see if I can pick a promising studio for the year. {nm} elchan Aug 20, 07:43

I've always thought Disney could do some damage in the right hands. It's returns over the past couple years have been disappointing. {nm} stevie1der328 (Foxxfund) Aug 21, 05:46

For research, I suggest looking at the various studios each fund can trade in, then use Advanced Search: Active Moviestocks: Distributor stevie1der328 (Foxxfund) Aug 21, 06:10

DISNX performance is VERY disappointing, I'm no one to criticize others' playing style, but with so many big movies slappydavid Aug 21, 06:59

Yeah, I asked Dmac for either Disney or Fox because I knew they were potential juggernauts. I wish you had gotten SUMMX as well. {nm} stevie1der328 Aug 21, 07:28

Maybe that was my mistake, I didn't ask for any studio in particular. At the time I was happy just to get a fund, any fund... :) {nm} slappydavid Aug 21, 07:52

Sounds like Disney is going to be a rough ride the next 3 years, see my post above. If I had a choice, I'd ask for Weinstein Co. {nm} elchan Aug 21, 07:54

Weinstein doesn't have that many releases. You'd be able to play DJANG... and that's probably about it for movies priced above $20. {nm} RogerMore Aug 21, 08:30

(looking at actual prices, this is incorrect - but I'd definitely prefer the fund that can invest in three or four summer tentpoles) {nm} RogerMore Aug 21, 08:35

I crunched some number in Excel using the distributor information and got the following. Hope it paste ok. {nm} elchan Aug 21, 07:37

Mazel tov! :) {nm} accountant_4_Jesus Aug 20, 07:53

Mazel tov! :) {nm} accountant_4_Jesus Aug 20, 07:53

Congrats! {nm} JohnTEQP Aug 20, 19:13

Kicking myself yet again - should have stayed in the SPRKL short, dropped $H6 from Friday. Need to grow a pair... {nm} JustaGuy Aug 19, 15:02

Next time, maybe! :-) {nm} <font color="green">Flash</font> Dec 09, 17:10

here's a really basic question rrrich7 Aug 19, 08:30

Buys and covers make a security go up, sells and shorts make it go down... {nm} slappydavid Aug 19, 09:00

But ... rrrich7 Aug 19, 10:54

Yes, securities are adjusted based on domestic box office performance. You should check out the Help Topics and Glossary links slappydavid Aug 19, 11:13

Depends on what movie they are dropping off. A star's TAG is based on the last 5 delisted movies {nm} JDolphin Aug 19, 13:19

Charlize Theron Rhaptor Aug 19, 07:20

..Not sure what 'work' you're referring to... she has a star bond, movies listed, etc...??? {nm} Flash Aug 19, 07:42

Maybe he means the AFRAM fund? {nm} DTravel Aug 19, 09:59

Technically, she would probably qualify under the "mixed race performer" category. But she doesn't portray herself as African American. elchan Aug 19, 11:47

Sorry;...African-American does not necessarily equal black....That may be true for a lot of folks but not always. Buy BONDS 19 Aug 19, 17:10

Yes, in the real world. But the whole "African-American" label only exists to be a politically correct way of saying "Black". DTravel Aug 19, 19:46

Chalize Theron a mixed race performer......solid info as usual {nm} alfpaulytd2012 Aug 20, 08:11

CTHER is not African-American. Born in South Africe to Fench and German parents. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Aug 19, 11:49

Make that 'South Africa'. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Aug 19, 11:50

She's from the continent of Africa, and became an American citizen in 2007. Doesn't that make her African-American? {nm} elchan Aug 19, 12:32

Being born in Japan does not make you Japanese. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Aug 19, 13:39

That's because they don't give gai-jin, citizenship. But, if you somehow became a Japanese citizen, you would be Japanese. {nm} elchan Aug 19, 14:54

Being a good athlete could make you Japanese. {nm} Buy BONDS 19 Aug 19, 21:03

when does trading on a stock close? how come this weekends releases are still trading? thanks. {nm} Telly Aug 18, 14:48

Click on News & Events - Click on Market Calendar - Scroll down to Saturday, August 18 to see Halt Times. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Aug 18, 15:04

Opening Weekend Halt Times - Saturday 6 PM PST. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Aug 18, 15:05

did it used to be fridays? sorry havent really played much in a few years. {nm} Telly Aug 18, 15:40

Yes, but now we have the OW derivatives (they do halt on friday), with the moviestock staying active until saturday 6 pm... {nm} slappydavid Aug 18, 15:54

but doesnt that defeat the purpose of the game? i mean, we basically know what to do just before it halts based on friday numbers. {nm} Telly Aug 18, 15:56

I'm sure HSX is happy with all that saturday traffic... {nm} slappydavid Aug 18, 18:58

Even that late it's not a sure thing. Look at what happened to BORN4 last week. {nm} elchan Aug 18, 19:04

i think we lose all the fun this way, but ok. {nm} Telly Aug 18, 19:54

you're not alone in that sentiment, lots of discussion when it first changed {nm} tealfan Aug 18, 21:40

Such a bummer. I think I'm out. I just can't see any fun in playing a prediction game, when there's no real predicting. Adios HSX! {nm} Telly Aug 19, 13:33

I tend to disagree. Prediction involves coming to a conclusion based on information. Without information, they 'predictions' are guesses. elchan Aug 19, 15:18

you get "information" from the day it' {nm} Telly Aug 19, 20:40

oops, posted before finishing. I was saying, you get "information" from the day it's listed on HSX, do you really need it up to ... Telly Aug 19, 20:41

When I first started playing, halts happened on Saturdays.... Flash Aug 19, 07:44

HSX Neighborhood Watch (8/17/12) - The HSX Dude RazorHawk Aug 17, 14:24

I am not related to any of the *chan accounts. {nm} elchan Aug 17, 14:44

Haha! I remember when I made the neighborhood watch... {nm} slappydavid Aug 17, 15:29

Hi RazorHawk,you have been posting very nice articles.Thank you for all the updates. :) {nm} HSXMAN Aug 17, 23:06

Good work keeping it fair, thanks. {nm} tatoufan Aug 18, 02:46

How much does it cost nowadays to buy a stock? {nm} HollywoodTycoon61 Aug 17, 13:40

1 Percent commission with a minimum of .02 per share. {nm} Buy BONDS 19 Now Active Aug 17, 16:48

Why do studios invest millions on films they intend to release as limited in only a handful of theaters? {nm} Livia Aug 17, 21:24

Thanks. And I assume no break on the weekend like the good old days? {nm} HollywoodTycoon61 Aug 17, 21:26

NO BREAK FOR YOU !!!! Next. {nm} mrbinns Aug 17, 22:41

why does trading stop? rrrich7 Aug 16, 12:16

multiple reasons but the most common are...opening weekend adjust for a MovieStock & delisted movie adjust for a StarBond tealfan Aug 16, 12:33

Did you ever see The Sting? It is eaier to bet correctly after the race has started. Opening weekend derivatives halt on the day of mrbinns Aug 16, 13:15

Sminor correction: Attached Starbonds halt one hour (at 3pm) before the associated MovieStock delists (at 4pm) Rednax Aug 17, 06:06

Sminor? Minor :) {nm} Rednax Aug 17, 06:07

When is the best time to sell all your shares in a moviestock after it has been released in theaters? kaseltzer Aug 15, 23:35

I'm no expert, but I get out after the Sunday adjust, win or lose. Rednax Aug 16, 05:19

There is no hard and fast rule but.. Buy BONDS 19 Aug 16, 05:21

You answered your own question. You're loosing money holding on to the stock after adjust right? So, why hold on to it then? elchan Aug 17, 16:36

To help celebrate the newest incarnation of the Caine Fund - a quote from its namesake: DTravel Aug 15, 23:12

lol {nm} tealfan Aug 16, 08:34

Looks like up_up_and_away is going for for some kind of trading record. Number 1 so far for the week again. Wow!!! {nm} firefox Aug 15, 08:34

I trade more share by 6 a.m. than most people do all day. Oorah! {nm} up_up_and_away Aug 15, 08:41

why? are you making money by trading that much? {nm} Oleg Max Aug 15, 08:51

I made money yesterday. Like everyone, I have up days and down days. I have a long term strategy. {nm} up_up_and_away Aug 15, 08:54

i see. as long as you do have a strategy and not just a goal to have top trading account week after week. {nm} Oleg Max Aug 15, 09:01

I'm about to move past him, so fine by me... :) {nm} slappydavid Aug 15, 08:41

I'm not sure who just passed who, but congrats on being an almost billionaire. I have fond memories of being a billionaire. {nm} up_up_and_away Aug 15, 09:21

Thanks! I'm sure you'll get back once your summer cleaning is done... :) {nm} slappydavid Aug 15, 09:41

Must be bad to be under the microscope like that. ;-) {nm} elchan Aug 15, 10:31

It doesn't bother me. {nm} up_up_and_away Aug 15, 12:43

Why not just reset the account and start over instead of having all that commision? {nm} blaze223 Aug 15, 12:24

And lose $1 Billion instantly? No thanks!! I have a strategy. {nm} up_up_and_away Aug 15, 12:44

commissions are a moot point. everyone has to pay them, so it doesn't matter. ndmaster Aug 15, 12:46

Than, what's the point of buying a $1B account? {nm} elchan Aug 15, 18:58

oh for gods sake. why all the red yet again when I was so close to 2 billion. im destined not to get there lol {nm} swordfish1 Aug 14, 13:03

and it's getting close to September...nail-biting time :) {nm} tealfan Aug 14, 15:43

That's going to be a self-fullfilling prophecy. People will be afraid everyon is going to sell and so they sell 1st, {nm} JDolphin Aug 14, 16:39

Hunger Games 4 is set to IPO in late August. momentum858 Aug 14, 23:59

Red?? What red? :-) {nm} Flash Aug 14, 15:58

lol so I guess its all green your side. damn you man {nm} swordfish1 Aug 14, 16:52

lol so I guess its all green your side. damn you man {nm} swordfish1 Aug 14, 16:52

OK...don't feel so bad...the red is BACK in MY port today! :-) {nm} Flash Aug 15, 07:16

Flash is up by $1.1M, and I'm up by $2.2M. It's so green, I feel like a solar panel. {nm} elchan Aug 14, 16:55

Question with regard to Blockbuster Warrants Grishnak Aug 14, 10:30

You seem to have it correctly. At the time of IPO, 165 seemed a reasonable strike. Since the movie has had good legs, BUY BONDS 19 Aug 14, 10:54

math formula for you RazorHawk Aug 14, 11:08

OK I get it now Grishnak Aug 14, 11:31

yup...so ARB happens a lot with BWs {nm} tealfan Aug 14, 12:04

Yes, many of the people who trade derivatives might already be maxed out since IPO... {nm} slappydavid Aug 14, 12:06

ARB? What's it astand for? {nm} Grishnak Aug 14, 12:23

Arbitrage - a real stock term that is used with a slightly different definition here at HSX {nm} lapuckfan Aug 14, 12:28

Article with answer to your question (link inside) slappydavid Aug 14, 12:28

wow... wrote a post for you but you didnt read it... cause it talked about ARB... guess you dont want help {nm} RazorHawk Aug 14, 13:06

opps... hey... where did my second post go? {nm} RazorHawk Aug 14, 13:07

Got eaten by an Arby's customer. :P {nm} DTravel Aug 14, 22:16

Thanks for the input everyone Grishnak Aug 16, 10:12

My portfolio is blood red and gushing today! Stupid expensive IPOs and people dumping long-term blockbusters for another one! {nm} BSmurf Aug 13, 17:17

you can always stop the bleeding of the port with one click of the mouse. {nm} Oleg Max Aug 13, 17:22

Just one? ;) The damage is done -- no need to compound it with unnecessary commissions and flipping after the fact when they will BSmurf Aug 13, 17:27

get ready for fall season is all I am going to advise you. {nm} Oleg Max Aug 13, 17:35

Today's bleeding is being caused by everybody selling everything they own so they can afford The Hobbit IPO. {nm} RazorHawk Aug 13, 17:43

i know that. but how about this fact: Oleg Max Aug 13, 17:47

Is this happen in avenger 2 iPo. It just a game guys {nm} mike255 Aug 13, 18:05

I really hope english is not your native language... {nm} slappydavid Aug 13, 18:38

I hope it is! {nm} RazorHawk Aug 13, 19:03

Sloppy Mr perfect lol {nm} mike255 Aug 14, 05:03

By "Port" I think Oleg meant the "Reset" click. Mom told me some Billionaires here Rynns_Daughter Aug 14, 10:34

We really try our best to be nice... :) {nm} slappydavid Aug 14, 10:54

Many do, yes. Some are very helpful. {nm} Rynns_Daughter Aug 14, 11:08

no, actually I meant: one can easily stop the bleeding by selling/covering stock that is causing the hemirage. Oleg Max Aug 14, 12:28

*Hemorrhage* I understand now. My bad, very sorry. :-) {nm} Rynns_Daughter Aug 15, 08:23

Strange, I'm up by $2.3M, so far today. ;-) Good thing I can't afford to participate in those expensive IPOs. {nm} elchan Aug 13, 19:28

Guys It is only game!! You are going to recover a couple weeks from now mike255 Aug 14, 05:08

2 questions NOLEAFCLOVR Aug 13, 16:53

Answers slappydavid Aug 13, 18:34

perfect! thank you that answered all my questions! ill be sure to thank roger as well. {nm} NOLEAFCLOVR Aug 14, 09:59



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