Playing & Trading Strategy

Anyone think SPID4 is going to jump up again this weekend? dtshakes Jul 10, 12:50

Personally, I don't think it'll hit it's adjust price in the 4 weekends...but that's just me. {nm} Flash Jul 10, 14:22

I can see it having a big 2nd weekend to make things interesting. I guess it's too early to tell... {nm} slappydavid Jul 10, 14:52

So, you're shorting it? {nm} dtshakes Jul 10, 15:36

just wondering... flinchy Jul 12, 00:38

most likely reason is people freeing up cash for ICEA4 and BATM3. osmosis2003 Jul 12, 02:18

Another milestone: H$8milllion in 2 months & 1 day :) {nm} Rednax Jul 10, 11:51

big one!...congrats! {nm} tealfan Jul 10, 12:12

Congrats!!! Well played {nm} rambirkodi Jul 12, 23:33

D'oh! Upstart72 Jul 08, 18:29

happens to us all. I was gonna hold long but gut feeling told me to short. {nm} swordfish1 Jul 09, 00:32

keep earning the $H bucks, and soon you'll be able to play both. {nm} stevie1der328 Jul 09, 09:16

If I was not morally forced to long anything from Katy Perry, I would have shorted the heck out of that stock. {nm} elchan Jul 09, 12:52

Much like her skirts? :D {nm} DTravel Jul 09, 13:41

Happy Smekday ipo is down? A lot of people bought Long? mike255 Jul 08, 10:11

People sold and/or shorted after reset. Whatever happened yesterday doesn't count for today's movement. slappydavid Jul 08, 10:39

so the stock go back to normal price or higher price of ipo mike255 Jul 08, 11:09

Just like any other stock, it will move according to market forces, so it could go either way. Not sure what you mean by "normal price"... slappydavid Jul 08, 11:49

50 dollars above ipo price sloppy!! {nm} mike255 Jul 08, 12:13

Just because a stock IPO's at a set price does not mean it will always be above it...some drop in price, others rise after 24 hrs...... {nm} Flash Jul 09, 08:36

I might be wrong but i don't think the initial ipo sold completely so thats why it stuggled to $50.01 the started to fall {nm} blaze223 Jul 08, 11:25

A little high, even if Jim Parsons is in it. Not like we will see him, since it's animated, and Rhiana elchan Jul 08, 11:47

I suspect stock manipulation. Where's the FTC, when you need it? {nm} elchan Jul 08, 17:54

You should know better by now, this is a very predictable pattern that occurs when a Saturday IPO fails to sell out it's initial offering. {nm} stevie1der328 Jul 08, 18:19

Are you happy with the direction its taking now {nm} blaze223 Jul 09, 12:06

Congratulations to oneman for taking over ZOO and taking it over the top. That is 4 theme funds delisting in a week with CAINE barreling Buy StarBond Fund 18 Jul 06, 10:32

Please explain the strategy behind why someone would buy and hold SPID5 for over a year? elchan Jul 06, 07:21

there are way more part time players than there are regulars. buy and hold is an easy strategy for someone who either doesnt know better or islander Jul 06, 07:24

I often buy and hold the next 2 years tent-poles. Scorpion Jul 06, 07:36

When your port is huge, and you have cash laying around, why not buy as many stocks (short OR long) as you can..put the $ to work! {nm} Flash Jul 06, 07:39

But the dROI is so small to hold it for another year. Any actively managed fund would get at least 1% dROI. elchan Jul 06, 07:50

while 1% sure is desirable, you face a different problem when port grows too big. Oleg Max Jul 06, 07:56

I need to keep that in mind when I become a billionaire. ;-0 {nm} elchan Jul 06, 08:00

You don't need to be a billionaire. @ about half a billion you start running out of stuff to do with your excess cash. Scorpion Jul 06, 10:54

Yeah, I've made a billion so far this year. My average daily change is 0.06% {nm} RogerMore Jul 06, 08:27

my take: Oleg Max Jul 06, 07:40

But, mid 300s seems impossible at current pace, to me. I guess people are still holding on, until they see where SPID4 will actually land. elchan Jul 06, 07:45

it's a unique situation w/ SPID4, given that 3 days won't get a multiplier. SPID3 did 151mill that wknd in 2007.... Oleg Max Jul 06, 07:48

BOM link Oleg Max Jul 06, 07:48

Still even if SPID5 might go up to 350, we're still talking about a dROI about 0.2%! {nm} elchan Jul 06, 07:55

true, better than next to nothing in cash... {nm} Oleg Max Jul 06, 07:57

Sure I can see how it would be good to hold tent pole from IPO, but I'm saying for SPID5, now that we have an idea elchan Jul 06, 07:41

I guess my question should have been, "If I owned SPID5 now, would I hold it for another year?" ;-) elchan Jul 06, 07:59

One I'd like to add - playing the players is also a factor. RogerMore Jul 06, 08:40

I've never really understood the September crash, but let me try to reason it out and you can tell me whether I'm full of **** stevie1der328 Jul 06, 08:49

I think the lower opening weekends in September are a bigger factor in the crash. RogerMore Jul 06, 09:31

That's why I love HSXMetrics site. Great for spotting trends. Do a lot of people move their investments into TV, in the fall? elchan Jul 06, 09:38

The TV market isn't large enough to have a noticeable effect on the movie market, particularly with the 20,000 share limit. {nm} stevie1der328 Jul 06, 10:17

I'm with OlegMax and RogerMore, but time is a factor as well JohnTEQP Jul 08, 21:04

I'm a casual player...if I'm making at least a million a day and this game doesn't feel like a chore,then I'm happy :) {nm} tealfan Jul 06, 08:48

I'll say why I hold some things for a long time... LanceStorm22 Jul 08, 22:24

Sorry I'm new. About StarBonds... besides the next movie bombing, what else can affect a starbond's price? {nm} Frankmiller92 Jul 06, 01:07

Brief Summary SCIFund Jul 06, 05:32

THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH! {nm} Frankmiller92 Jul 06, 06:41

Liked your summary {nm} laujer Jul 10, 06:24

As a newer player, with only 2M to work with, you will usually get more bang for the buck with movies that are mrbinns Jul 06, 06:48

One good way to play bonds is to pay close attention to surprises on opening weekends JohnTEQP Jul 08, 21:10

Hello, I have a question, For example, If I'm short selling a movie, what happens when it checks out and I didn't cover?? {nm} Frankmiller92 Jul 05, 23:13

You get the equivalent of a "max cover" at cash-out, but it's commision-free (yay!). {nm} Rednax Jul 05, 23:59

Thanks. Ok does the same apply to opening week warrants or derivatives? {nm} Frankmiller92 Jul 06, 00:06

Yes {nm} Rednax Jul 06, 01:32

Losing money when selling stocks. mrpilgrim Jul 05, 15:36

Are you considering commission? Every trade you make is subject to a 1% commission... {nm} slappydavid Jul 05, 15:50

also, sometimes there is "chuckage," e.g., you push "sell" when the price is $5, but the sell processes as $4.97 {nm} daveart Jul 05, 15:55

Stupid Question - Short vs. Long Niles2828 Jul 05, 14:31

buy long if you think price is going up, buy short if you think the price will go down {nm} lapuckfan Jul 05, 14:49

Okay, let me see if I understand this... Niles2828 Jul 05, 15:06

that's pretty much it - you also pay 1% of each transaction as commission. {nm} Jane_Citizen Jul 05, 16:59

Good luck and happy investing to AndrewGellar and NYNY......usual request...can you let us know when you will start, and finish your 20M mrbinns Jul 05, 11:53

My Bonds moved to New York! {nm} DTravel Jul 05, 13:25

AFRAM Fund Update: Week 20 (7/5/12) AFRAM-The African American Fund Jul 05, 10:56

Qu. for all the billionaires: How long did it take to make your first billion? Wondering if my H$1bn/1yr target is realistic. {nm} Rednax Jul 05, 05:13

Here are the Benchmarks for the ROTO YTD Port. Best Wishes for 1 Billion in One Year. RotoHockeyYTD2012 Jul 05, 05:27

Not a Billionaire, but thought these benchmarks might be of help. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Jul 05, 05:28

like Flash i've been playing along time and the game changes so much but if you've the time then you'll do it. good luck {nm} swordfish1 Jul 05, 08:43

When I started playing... Flash Jul 05, 08:25

I heard a rumor once that Grory did it in a year JohnTEQP Jul 08, 21:15

Unless I falter badly, I should reach 1 billion by my 17th month. Some more info inside... slappydavid Jul 05, 10:05

I'm relying on keeping my dROI up to give exponential growth - will be harder as port grows though {nm} Rednax Jul 05, 13:43

took me about 22 months. but my first $100 mill took seven months ... Jane_Citizen Jul 05, 17:02

Have been playing for abt 6 years now. Have just gone past 300 milion. Again I shud have played more often :( {nm} rambirkodi Jul 05, 22:22

Starbonds: How early can i invest on Starbonds, Would it make sense to invest in a starbond that will adjust say 4 months from now. {nm} rambirkodi Jul 04, 18:36

Possibly. DTravel Jul 04, 21:51

Not if it has a % Gain of 25% or less. At 279 MILL, the ROTO YTD Port has 155 StarBonds Positions. Go 4 it. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Jul 04, 21:53

I use Kaigee.com to find those with highest dROI (longest I've gone is 5 weeks). {nm} Rednax Jul 04, 23:48

Invest in short term gains when you are a small port. Once you have tons o moolah, you can hold longer. {nm} PVL Admin Jul 05, 00:25

$2M to $4M in 3 months..hopefully my next double up is faster...nm rtbgamer76 Jul 04, 10:31

keep on doubling!...congrats! {nm} tealfan Jul 04, 11:18

I see the BONDS fund delists on thursday well done and will it be back soon are you having a rest first {nm} blaze223 Jul 04, 01:33

Limit Orders - Protecting From a Price Drop Niles2828 Jul 04, 00:28

Read what the guys from the Ampersand in the fan sites have wriiten it may help {nm} blaze223 Jul 04, 01:25

Wow, that's a great site! Thanks for the help :) {nm} Niles2828 Jul 04, 02:47

I tried the trick to place short limit orders to hedge a long position against drops. Doesn't seem to work. elchan Jul 05, 19:40

$700M milestone......finally. at this summer pace, should be at $1B by nov-dec. {nm} NOLEAFCLOVR Jul 02, 21:43

wahoo! {nm} tealfan Jul 02, 21:56

good work there {nm} blaze223 Jul 02, 23:39

Congrats! {nm} PVL Admin Jul 03, 09:10

Congrats.Keep it up {nm} laujer Jul 04, 07:14

Hit 500M finally {nm} The Claw Jul 01, 17:19

yay!...congrats! {nm} tealfan Jul 01, 19:30

Well done there {nm} blaze223 Jul 02, 06:45

Congrats! {nm} PVL Admin Jul 03, 09:10

first month... 2 to 44M in June {nm} bkohn01 Jul 01, 13:41

yowsa...nice momentum! {nm} tealfan Jul 01, 13:59

congrats, keep it up! {nm} Oleg Max Jul 01, 15:29

Yes, I saw. I've been following you. ;-) Good work! {nm} elchan Jul 01, 15:59

How you played before? {nm} elchan Jul 01, 15:59

Oops, "how" = "have" {nm} elchan Jul 01, 16:00

thanks. no ive never played before. i'm late to the game. i only heard of the site a month ago and i joined. bkohn01 Jul 01, 19:19

Even more amazing effort then. Took me a couple of months to learn. ;-) {nm} elchan Jul 01, 19:23

thanks. its interesting there are a lot of features that you learn as you go that makes things so much easier. so each week bkohn01 Jul 01, 19:47

Are you using limit orders every night? {nm} elchan Jul 01, 20:11

no on the limit orders. do you? {nm} bkohn01 Jul 02, 16:56

I've tried them with little success. What I really would like to be able to put in a "stop loss" order. {nm} elchan Jul 02, 18:46

Wouldn't we all. lol... HSX has said stop loss orders could lead to manipulation...so no dice. :-) {nm} Flash Jul 03, 07:29

Well done! Puts my $6mil to shame (& you started after me!). {nm} Rednax Jul 01, 23:56

Been playing off and on for years and I'm at my highest right now :s (8m) good job! {nm} Borb86 Jul 04, 14:37