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Opening Weekend Deriviatives Rix00 Jul 15, 14:38

Any .ow derivative gets halted on Fridays @ 10 AM PT for that weekend's movie that is being widely released. Oleg Max Jul 15, 14:55

What is a .ow derivative and how does it work? Buy BONDS 19 coming soon Jul 15, 19:28

So it's very similar to Call/Put Rix00 Jul 16, 13:07

At IPO put/call strike price and OW price are identical {nm} Rednax Jul 17, 14:17

Amateur Questions from a long-time player... Utech Jul 15, 12:59

that shares available is just at the IPO price...after that, the price starts moving and the usual unlimited shares are available {nm} tealfan Jul 15, 13:32

NB...Only shares bought (long) count toward that inital amount. Short shares do not count towards the total. Buy BONDS 19 coming soon Jul 15, 19:08

do inactive players ever get Purged? Seems like there are thousands that dont trade anymore jtempkin Jul 15, 12:09

Makes it easy to gain places though {nm} blaze223 Jul 15, 12:24

Two answers: Buy BONDS 19 coming soon Jul 15, 12:33

at what rank ,curently , do you get surrounded by active players? jtempkin Jul 15, 12:43

I've gone from ~750 to low 500s this year so far... BSmurf Jul 15, 13:15

play in a PVL or watchlist active players {nm} alfpaulytd2012 Jul 15, 13:29

As someone who was mostly inactive over the course of 10-12 years on here, I'd say I'm glad they're not purged because I only really got LanceStorm22 Jul 15, 18:54

Oddly I set up an account several years ago which I didn't use... Rednax Jul 18, 02:41

Gotta love summer! Up 3.4M so far today without making a single trade... {nm} slappydavid Jul 15, 11:02

+1 {nm} JohnTEQP Jul 16, 21:37

someone throw me a rope im slipping backwards {nm} swordfish1 Jul 13, 13:33

You were fine up until Paul2k slipped his false data screen in front of your spy cam. *Throws Rope*. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Jul 13, 18:29

damn it, fallen for that old trick {nm} swordfish1 Jul 14, 00:29

you were supposed to hold on to one end... {nm} PVL Admin Jul 14, 01:38

someone throw me a rope im slipping backwards {nm} swordfish1 Jul 13, 13:31

My port is trying to tell me something... lapuckfan Jul 13, 11:57

Yeah, it says you have too much H$, and you should send me some. {nm} elchan Jul 13, 12:00

Don't forget it's friday the 13th... {nm} slappydavid Jul 13, 12:09

had my first loss day yesterday cos i didn't come on HSX! {nm} Ttaaggggeerr Jul 13, 10:46

Sad times {nm} Ttaaggggeerr Jul 13, 10:46

Don't worry. I had a day like that earlier, then I learned not to leave open positions overnight, unless I'm sure that they won't reverse. {nm} elchan Jul 13, 11:00

My issue is that I live in the UK so times don't match up well! ah well {nm} Ttaaggggeerr Jul 13, 11:46

Believe me...if you stay here awhile, it won't be your last "loss" day either. :-) {nm} Flash Jul 13, 15:39

I get the Sense that it's Sensible to assume that if a particular starbond will adjust higher next week due to a non-cowardly film that elchan Jul 13, 08:46

you'll get your profit soon enough. traders dont all trade the same way. anyways take a look now islander Jul 13, 09:05

Thanks, thought I was calculating it incorrectly. Let's hope this PSA helps others than. ;-) {nm} elchan Jul 13, 09:28

It's not how you start, but how your finish.... Buy BONDS 19 coming soon Jul 13, 09:39

I think the best way to play Starbonds is not to pay attention to them unless there's a detachment, many don't pay attention {nm} LanceStorm22 Jul 13, 20:50

There can be day trading in Star Bonds also. Just know what the adjust will be and ignore the daily ups and downs {nm} JDolphin Jul 13, 22:03

Why did my limit order just go through? Zoggie Jul 11, 22:53

Sounds like you tried to set a "stop loss" which does not work. Set it to cover when you are holding short or sell if you are holding long. PVL Admin Jul 11, 23:59

You can't set the Advanced Trader to prevent you from losing money...only to make profits... (more inside) Flash Jul 12, 07:35

You can't set the Advanced Trader to prevent you from losing money...only to make profits... (more inside) Flash Jul 12, 07:35

(sorry for the double post...not sure 'why' that happened) {nm} Flash Jul 12, 07:36

Thank you so much Zoggie Jul 12, 09:24

How weird. I've made two trades on a top mover today in the last 30 minutes, reversing my position. At the same exact time, someone has made Paul2k Jul 10, 18:54

hmm. i wonder who could that be? Oleg Max Jul 10, 19:00

The only one in the room is my baby, and she's sleeping. Or, pretending to sleep while she executes trades. That little devil. Paul2k Jul 10, 19:08

wow... you are restless. Oleg Max Jul 10, 19:15

I'm telling you, it's my demon baby, trying to drive me mad. BTW, how's the littlest of your brood doing? {nm} Paul2k Jul 10, 19:21

he's great. teething now. he is restless too :) thx for asking. Oleg Max Jul 10, 19:25

3 months as of last week. She's the best thing ever in my life. Cute as can be, and her smile can instantly brighten my day. Paul2k Jul 10, 19:29

that's awesome. I share your feelings. ready for another one? {nm} Oleg Max Jul 10, 19:38

SATAN ?????? {nm} Buy BONDS 19 coming soon Jul 11, 10:29

Check the house for spy cams...someone is monitoring your HSX moves cause they want to know the secret. {nm} PVL Admin Jul 10, 20:41

Paul2k, can you move to your right I can't see what you just bought lol {nm} swordfish1 Jul 11, 03:34

My shrink says that you are reading too much into this (again). {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Jul 11, 15:34

Sounds like a doubledangger {nm} laujer Jul 12, 05:47

I showed my kid HSX the other day, and told him to follow that Paul2k guy, cause he's good. He must be doing it backwards. {nm} arf Jul 12, 12:15

Whenever I do that the thing starts going back in the initial direction. I've probably done that to you before. {nm} CommonAnomaly Jul 12, 20:05

Anyone think SPID4 is going to jump up again this weekend? dtshakes Jul 10, 12:50

Personally, I don't think it'll hit it's adjust price in the 4 weekends...but that's just me. {nm} Flash Jul 10, 14:22

I can see it having a big 2nd weekend to make things interesting. I guess it's too early to tell... {nm} slappydavid Jul 10, 14:52

So, you're shorting it? {nm} dtshakes Jul 10, 15:36

just wondering... flinchy Jul 12, 00:38

most likely reason is people freeing up cash for ICEA4 and BATM3. osmosis2003 Jul 12, 02:18

Another milestone: H$8milllion in 2 months & 1 day :) {nm} Rednax Jul 10, 11:51

big one!...congrats! {nm} tealfan Jul 10, 12:12

Congrats!!! Well played {nm} rambirkodi Jul 12, 23:33

D'oh! Upstart72 Jul 08, 18:29

happens to us all. I was gonna hold long but gut feeling told me to short. {nm} swordfish1 Jul 09, 00:32

keep earning the $H bucks, and soon you'll be able to play both. {nm} stevie1der328 Jul 09, 09:16

If I was not morally forced to long anything from Katy Perry, I would have shorted the heck out of that stock. {nm} elchan Jul 09, 12:52

Much like her skirts? :D {nm} DTravel Jul 09, 13:41

Happy Smekday ipo is down? A lot of people bought Long? mike255 Jul 08, 10:11

People sold and/or shorted after reset. Whatever happened yesterday doesn't count for today's movement. slappydavid Jul 08, 10:39

so the stock go back to normal price or higher price of ipo mike255 Jul 08, 11:09

Just like any other stock, it will move according to market forces, so it could go either way. Not sure what you mean by "normal price"... slappydavid Jul 08, 11:49

50 dollars above ipo price sloppy!! {nm} mike255 Jul 08, 12:13

Just because a stock IPO's at a set price does not mean it will always be above it...some drop in price, others rise after 24 hrs...... {nm} Flash Jul 09, 08:36

I might be wrong but i don't think the initial ipo sold completely so thats why it stuggled to $50.01 the started to fall {nm} blaze223 Jul 08, 11:25

A little high, even if Jim Parsons is in it. Not like we will see him, since it's animated, and Rhiana elchan Jul 08, 11:47

I suspect stock manipulation. Where's the FTC, when you need it? {nm} elchan Jul 08, 17:54

You should know better by now, this is a very predictable pattern that occurs when a Saturday IPO fails to sell out it's initial offering. {nm} stevie1der328 Jul 08, 18:19

Are you happy with the direction its taking now {nm} blaze223 Jul 09, 12:06

Congratulations to oneman for taking over ZOO and taking it over the top. That is 4 theme funds delisting in a week with CAINE barreling Buy StarBond Fund 18 Jul 06, 10:32

Please explain the strategy behind why someone would buy and hold SPID5 for over a year? elchan Jul 06, 07:21

there are way more part time players than there are regulars. buy and hold is an easy strategy for someone who either doesnt know better or islander Jul 06, 07:24

I often buy and hold the next 2 years tent-poles. Scorpion Jul 06, 07:36

When your port is huge, and you have cash laying around, why not buy as many stocks (short OR long) as you can..put the $ to work! {nm} Flash Jul 06, 07:39

But the dROI is so small to hold it for another year. Any actively managed fund would get at least 1% dROI. elchan Jul 06, 07:50

while 1% sure is desirable, you face a different problem when port grows too big. Oleg Max Jul 06, 07:56

I need to keep that in mind when I become a billionaire. ;-0 {nm} elchan Jul 06, 08:00

You don't need to be a billionaire. @ about half a billion you start running out of stuff to do with your excess cash. Scorpion Jul 06, 10:54

Yeah, I've made a billion so far this year. My average daily change is 0.06% {nm} RogerMore Jul 06, 08:27

my take: Oleg Max Jul 06, 07:40

But, mid 300s seems impossible at current pace, to me. I guess people are still holding on, until they see where SPID4 will actually land. elchan Jul 06, 07:45

it's a unique situation w/ SPID4, given that 3 days won't get a multiplier. SPID3 did 151mill that wknd in 2007.... Oleg Max Jul 06, 07:48

BOM link Oleg Max Jul 06, 07:48

Still even if SPID5 might go up to 350, we're still talking about a dROI about 0.2%! {nm} elchan Jul 06, 07:55

true, better than next to nothing in cash... {nm} Oleg Max Jul 06, 07:57

Sure I can see how it would be good to hold tent pole from IPO, but I'm saying for SPID5, now that we have an idea elchan Jul 06, 07:41

I guess my question should have been, "If I owned SPID5 now, would I hold it for another year?" ;-) elchan Jul 06, 07:59

One I'd like to add - playing the players is also a factor. RogerMore Jul 06, 08:40

I've never really understood the September crash, but let me try to reason it out and you can tell me whether I'm full of **** stevie1der328 Jul 06, 08:49

I think the lower opening weekends in September are a bigger factor in the crash. RogerMore Jul 06, 09:31

That's why I love HSXMetrics site. Great for spotting trends. Do a lot of people move their investments into TV, in the fall? elchan Jul 06, 09:38

The TV market isn't large enough to have a noticeable effect on the movie market, particularly with the 20,000 share limit. {nm} stevie1der328 Jul 06, 10:17

I'm with OlegMax and RogerMore, but time is a factor as well JohnTEQP Jul 08, 21:04

I'm a casual player...if I'm making at least a million a day and this game doesn't feel like a chore,then I'm happy :) {nm} tealfan Jul 06, 08:48

I'll say why I hold some things for a long time... LanceStorm22 Jul 08, 22:24

Sorry I'm new. About StarBonds... besides the next movie bombing, what else can affect a starbond's price? {nm} Frankmiller92 Jul 06, 01:07

Brief Summary SCIFund Jul 06, 05:32

THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH! {nm} Frankmiller92 Jul 06, 06:41

Liked your summary {nm} laujer Jul 10, 06:24

As a newer player, with only 2M to work with, you will usually get more bang for the buck with movies that are mrbinns Jul 06, 06:48

One good way to play bonds is to pay close attention to surprises on opening weekends JohnTEQP Jul 08, 21:10

Hello, I have a question, For example, If I'm short selling a movie, what happens when it checks out and I didn't cover?? {nm} Frankmiller92 Jul 05, 23:13

You get the equivalent of a "max cover" at cash-out, but it's commision-free (yay!). {nm} Rednax Jul 05, 23:59

Thanks. Ok does the same apply to opening week warrants or derivatives? {nm} Frankmiller92 Jul 06, 00:06

Yes {nm} Rednax Jul 06, 01:32

Losing money when selling stocks. mrpilgrim Jul 05, 15:36

Are you considering commission? Every trade you make is subject to a 1% commission... {nm} slappydavid Jul 05, 15:50

also, sometimes there is "chuckage," e.g., you push "sell" when the price is $5, but the sell processes as $4.97 {nm} daveart Jul 05, 15:55



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