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You're taking away all the "fun" aspects of the game.
With huge ports - you can buy any stock you want. Buy and hold forever. Not true for smaller ports.
While I have been around here 18 years, the game has changed dramatically... while I understand that HSX is a business..they also have to make the game somewhat "fun" for us as players.
Doing away with adjusts was one of the most fun aspects of the game for me. Trying to guess how a movie would open has always been a challenge. Just to buy an IPO (like Star Wars) and hold it forever is no big deal...what fun is there in that?
Some movies come and go quickly, and the window of movies going from release to DVD much faster, you could have scenarios where a movie is still "in" theaters and yet coming out on DVD.
The reason limited movies have 12 weeks here, is due to the small number of theaters they play in. A movie with only 300 screens may play in a market and then move on to play in another market... only a very narrow number of people ever see these movies. In smaller populated areas, some limited movies never play since the smaller number of theaters want to show the bigger, more popular movies being released monthly.
To have all movies with 12 week listing on HSX will not help HSX with their data to studios, etc. Studios are more concerned with what a movie will earn in the first month or so of release - since THAT is when most of the excitement for the movie IS..plus other competion comes out, further deluting the box office take.
If HSX is not fun for players - they leave, and HSX has just stopped one aspect of the game that is the most fun for long time players like myself. If players like us leave - the data HSX needs is not as valid as if they have millions of players helping track the numbers.
Jeffrey Katzenberg: "17 days ... is 95% of the revenue for 98% of movies." Nov 05, 13:37
You're going to argue with Ketzenberg? Nov 05, 19:37
(and reading the article, he's making a prediction of how the market will be 10 years from now) {nm} Nov 05, 19:57
Keep in mind the exhibitor % take generally increases after first few weekends, while studio cut reduces. {nm} Nov 05, 20:29
So then we're talking 2 different things - box office gross vs actual studio revenue {nm} Nov 05, 23:11
Then if the exhibitor's window is going to decrease wouldn {nm} Nov 05, 23:15
wouldn't they want a bigger % to compensate for loss money they would get with the additonal weeks cut off {nm} Nov 05, 23:16
I don't want to deal with stocks for 12 weeks. I'd rather we played OW only then delist stocks immediately after Nov 05, 14:08
+1 {nm} Nov 05, 14:28
+1 - I'd take this change, too... {nm} Nov 05, 15:18
Great idea ! {nm} Nov 05, 15:19
+1 {nm} Nov 05, 19:31
Awesome rule change idea {nm} Nov 05, 21:41
we're already holding stocks for years, post release is just a small fraction of the overall hold time {nm} Nov 05, 22:22
Sure, but prerelease there's intrigue, surprise, hope - fun speculation Nov 06, 01:06
Movie still delist in 4 weeks? {nm} Nov 05, 15:36
I like that but I'd go one step further. Skip limiteds vs wides and have all movies delist after 8 weeks. {nm} Nov 05, 19:15
My Two Cents Worth Nov 06, 04:48
I never understood why limited releases go 12 weeks when, as you say, many times they aren't in theaters after 2 or 3. Nov 06, 05:34
With your numbers inside, with the exception of 2 movies, they all made close to 10% of the 4 week BO in the remaining run. Nov 06, 06:31
He skipped most of the genre types that make more after weekend 4 - just look at this year's top movies... {nm} Nov 06, 06:34
You're taking away all the "fun" aspects of the game. Nov 06, 07:17
So, do we have consensus on opening weekend and then delist as the best option? Nov 06, 07:30
There's 5 or 6 backing that option. Hardly a consensus, nor is it "most" posters. {nm} Nov 06, 08:23
That's more people than who backed getting rid of the adjust... {nm} Nov 06, 09:04
