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Though there's a twist there as well - would a Hollywood studio be able to make an Asian-themed movie for Asians that is profitable?

Posted by: RogerMore on Mar 31, 11:46 in response to adrenalin112's post Actually had this movie been cast with a more traditional...

What I mean is that, historically, Hollywood has made movies primarily for the American audience. That's what it's good at. It's only in the last 20-30 years that we've seen movies be tinkered with to appeal to other markets. For example it used to be "let's film in China to show Americans something new to bring them in to theatres" while it's now "let's film in China to make more money from the Chinese audience"

But Hollywood is still learning about what works and what doesn't work in appealing to foreign markets. It's outside their comfort zone. From a job security perspective, there's less downside (to a studio exec) in green lighting a $110 project with American stars and creatives that they are familiar with, than there is in green lighting the same project with Asian leads and creatives for a market they don't really understand.

You see this all the time, too, and within America. Look at Passion of the Christ. No studio would make that movie, because they didn't understand the audience. And then they're like "Let's make Noah" "Let's make Exodus" Same with Tyler Perry movies and non-epic religious movies like God's Not Dead, Heaven of for Real, etc. Studios know they wouldn't do a good job in reaching those audiences, so they leave then to smaller film-makers.

The outcome is missed opportunities for profit, and people who feel that Hollywood isn't making movies for them.

C: Ghost in the Shell Is Racist in Unexpected Ways (would make an interesting double feature with Get Out) Antibody Mar 31, 08:32

which apparently is one reason WB is chasing Peele for Akira. or they could just cast the roles appropriately {nm} slipping jimmy Mar 31, 09:07

They did. They put a good looking girl in a role she deserves {nm} tteddy286 Mar 31, 12:52

you think we're taking this racism thing too far... durf Mar 31, 09:34

The article had a pretty simple explanation. From my POV the twisting comes from the "this couldn't possibly be racist in any way" argument {nm} RogerMore Mar 31, 09:47

we aren't anywhere remotely in the vicinity of "far" in dealing with white America's racism {nm} slipping jimmy Mar 31, 09:56

There's no "contorting" to see what's plain in sight. A Tokyo where Japanese people is a minority. A Japanese woman LITERALLY Antibody Mar 31, 09:58

why is ok to cast a minority in the role of a traditionally white character, but not ok to cast a white person as a traditionally ethnic adrenalin112 Mar 31, 10:59

name one example of the negative that you're saying exists (white actor taking a traditionally non-white role) {nm} slipping jimmy Mar 31, 11:02

liz banks in power rangers {nm} adrenalin112 Mar 31, 11:03

isnt Ghost in the shell another example? Scarlett playing Major Motoko Kusanagi, I dont know Manga stuff??? {nm} adrenalin112 Mar 31, 11:06

miles teller playing latin vinny pazienza (bleed for this) {nm} adrenalin112 Mar 31, 11:11

these are not on the same level as Barbie or Spiderman, sorry {nm} slipping jimmy Mar 31, 11:15

well we havent switched up barbie or spiderman yet.... so whats your point {nm} adrenalin112 Mar 31, 11:22

They did in the comics. Even did it to Ironman {nm} tteddy286 Mar 31, 12:54

I think you have to look case by case. In this specific case, it's the lead role, and also most of the other roles in the movie. RogerMore Mar 31, 11:10

Because white people have been taking the roles of underrepresented minorities hundred of years, but not vice versa. {nm} Antibody Mar 31, 11:30

so now its time to exact revenge & exclude white people? {nm} adrenalin112 Mar 31, 11:41

No, casting POC to play roles created as POC would just be a start. That's not exclusion. {nm} Antibody Mar 31, 11:47

Casting a POC to play a fictional white character would then be just leveling the acting field. {nm} Antibody Mar 31, 11:51

im upset that british emma watson was cast to play a french belle, i must protest my disgust! {nm} adrenalin112 Mar 31, 12:01

geez you really have it out for white people dmac {nm} adrenalin112 Mar 31, 12:04

I don't how wanting equality and fairness is "having it out for white people". {nm} Antibody Mar 31, 12:09

Because you want to exclude white people from being able to play characters that were traditionally a POC adrenalin112 Mar 31, 12:15

Nope, I never said white people should be excluded and those roles can only be played by POC. {nm} Antibody Mar 31, 12:19

Wanting POC to play roles written for POC is not coming at the expense of white people. {nm} Antibody Mar 31, 12:22

And how is that not? {nm} tteddy286 Mar 31, 12:47

Though again, we still have Peter Parker and white Barbie. They're not excluded. {nm} RogerMore Mar 31, 11:47

Racism would be casting based on race, not on what will generate the most profit... durf Mar 31, 10:17

This post proves my point. {nm} RogerMore Mar 31, 10:28

if anything it proves you're racist {nm} durf Mar 31, 10:32

don't mean to make it a personal attack on you . . . just the fact this is being discussed means those who bring it up are racist. {nm} durf Mar 31, 10:34

they need to look deep inside...they have a lot of hate, sad. {nm} durf Mar 31, 10:35

No, it just proves you should be asking yourself some obvious questions. RogerMore Mar 31, 10:41

Actually had this movie been cast with a more traditional look & its appropriate asian race, it could have been more profitable. {nm} adrenalin112 Mar 31, 11:01

Though there's a twist there as well - would a Hollywood studio be able to make an Asian-themed movie for Asians that is profitable? RogerMore Mar 31, 11:46

Fresh of the boat is seeming to do really well, its one of my favorite sitcoms on tv at the moment. adrenalin112 Mar 31, 12:11

Though TV is something that allows a lot more experimentation and risk-taking. The show's not working quite well? Tweak it. The show doesn't RogerMore Mar 31, 12:38

To answer the question, yes, but it has to be done in baby steps, and building up stars to appropriately represent the culture & appeal to adrenalin112 Mar 31, 12:13

But paraphrasing, that's "yes, but not yet" {nm} RogerMore Mar 31, 12:25

What's disgusting is how much stupid is out there, especially amongst white people. islander Mar 31, 10:35

that white guilt runs deep {nm} adrenalin112 Mar 31, 11:02

No that's not it. {nm} islander Mar 31, 11:06

thats just 1 of many reasons. Another of which is, they just dont understand the perspective of something theyve never experienced {nm} adrenalin112 Mar 31, 11:13

Exactly - many people don't like what they don't know. When I was a kid, I rarely saw non-white and never interacted with them, then as an JDolphin Mar 31, 12:34

this isn't about people's own personal experiences. this is about persistent discrimination on a systemic level {nm} slipping jimmy Mar 31, 12:38

But people are discriminated for all sorts of reasons - there is persitant against - short, fat, old, female, etc. Just because you haven't JDolphin Mar 31, 14:11

nobody has to feel guilty about remedying past discrimination. just do it and be happy {nm} slipping jimmy Mar 31, 11:50

No one has to remedy anything. Dont blame the current generation for prior generations mistakes. {nm} adrenalin112 Mar 31, 12:17

fixing the past in no way assigns "blame" or "guilt" (except in the mind of white people, apparently). it's just fixing what's been broken {nm} slipping jimmy Mar 31, 12:23

Get em man. Hit them all with the truth. They all seem to have a great disregard for fairness by desiring only POC in roles {nm} tteddy286 Mar 31, 12:50

Dude, hit the nail right on the head. {nm} tteddy286 Mar 31, 12:57

It is absolutely AMAZING that Rollingthunder hasn't said a damn thing about this. {nm} PlayItAgainSam Mar 31, 18:52

Was this movie making a political comment that I missed? Is it a real life story? Maybe it is making a comment about 98.5% Japanese Japan? Catzan Mar 31, 22:13





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