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A question about shorting and covering. spudboy2 May 10, 17:50

Answer INSIDE. RotoHockeyYTD2013MainPort May 10, 19:17

Ok, so if I'm understanding correctlly spudboy2 May 10, 21:53

You Understand Correctly. RotoHockeyYTD2013MainPort May 10, 23:18

Thank you! I thought I was on to something and bought about 100 peny stocks.... doh {nm} spudboy2 May 11, 05:03

Spudboy, outright buying penny stocks to hold is not a bad strategy. ndmaster May 11, 06:43

What comps are we using for Hot Pursuit projected delist? {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin May 10, 12:13

** This post has been removed by the forum moderator! ** RotoHockeyYTD2013MainPort May 10, 14:13

Too far off base to use Blart 2? Know it's not a female comedy, but maybe recent market indicator? {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin May 10, 15:37

Please stop pasting nearly a whole page from another site. . {nm} Antibody May 10, 17:22

TMWAR (Reese, comedy, bad movie but different time of year). 5KILR (action comedy aimed at women, terrible movie, summer release - but June) RogerMore May 10, 17:06

Very good input - thank you, sir! {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin May 10, 17:36

(PRNOA) 'Paranoia' (2013) - Matching 6% Rotten Tomatoes - And Just as Funny apparently. RotoHockeyYTD2013MainPort May 10, 17:34

So, this one is a thriller - never would have thought to comp it. Interesting. {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin May 10, 17:39

And it opened in August - I'm confused. {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin May 10, 17:44

Check the One Word in the I.M" RotoHockeyYTD2013MainPort May 10, 18:02

Gotcha! Thanks for the input :) I learn something new every day {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin May 10, 18:37

Ultron versus Iron Man 3 MattW May 09, 16:09

Nicely done MattW {nm} Dorfman May 09, 17:42

About what I would say using Iron Man 3. Even being optimistic and using Avengers 1 percentage, you still only get 430 mil (math inside) JDolphin May 09, 17:49

I was also being optimistic with this weekends box office and using 80 {nm} JDolphin May 09, 17:52

Top MovieFunds for the Week Awards Fund May 09, 08:17

Anyone else taking a bath on Maggie (MAGIE)? DouglasPennington May 08, 11:22

It's opening in 79 theaters. Don't see much future for it :( {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin May 08, 11:23

I'm making a killing on it.. Up over 64%. I want to see this, but when I saw the update that it was going to be in 0 theatres I shorted.. Dorfman May 08, 11:59

Sounds like you're learning the game. ndmaster May 08, 21:00

Yeah - after the Morons Failed to Foul up by 3 with 7 seconds left. Deserved to Lose for that, but didn't. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013MainPort May 08, 21:49

For future reference, perhaps you could ask relevant fund managers why they're holding a certain way? Lionsgate Studio Fund May 09, 03:52

+1 - great advice - and a great play {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin May 10, 08:39

Reached 10 million on April 15-16, reached 20 million today(lets see how long it takes to reach 40). {nm} mattep74 May 08, 00:26

Good pace, Matt! Onward and upward, with a FATTER port!! {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin May 08, 07:31

gonna be fun for you this summer...congrats! {nm} tealfan May 08, 07:37

Mad Max: Fury Road DouglasPennington May 07, 10:51

If it feels good do it! Talbain May 07, 11:17

Correction: short the PUT option. I really wish we could delete a post when there is a typo. {nm} CactusLand May 08, 07:12

If you're betting on Max winning, I'd short the call option. {nm} CactusLand May 08, 07:10

*short the PUT option. {nm} CactusLand May 08, 07:13

wasn't AVNG2 a reminder why not to short a PU.. best case you earn 40k, worst case you lose 10x that {nm} andy007 May 08, 08:22

I think that's the OW not the PUT or Call. If it makes its strike. then it cashes out at 0. So the most you lost on avengers PUT if you Dorfman May 08, 08:26

Definition of a put from any put derivative on HSX Dorfman May 08, 08:27

but avng2.pu cashed out at $23, if you shorted then you lost ~$20/share {nm} andy007 May 08, 09:25

Correct. The most you can lose on a long is purchase + commission. Your ability to lose money on shorts is infinite. {nm} Initech May 08, 10:31

Well yes cause the PUT price got so high and then cashed out at zero.. {nm} Dorfman May 08, 11:12

oops sorry got it backwards.. {nm} Dorfman May 08, 11:13

The put cashed out at $23.73, the call cashed out at zero...I think you are confusing the two {nm} lapuckfan May 08, 11:14

yeah I got it backwards. LOL {nm} Dorfman May 08, 11:16

could have worked the other way around if you had shorted the call and the price was at 23 {nm} Dorfman May 08, 11:14

and avengers made their strike. {nm} Dorfman May 08, 11:14

And avengers if it had done say 238 (strike plus the price of Put when delisted) then you would have made 394k instead of lost. but alas Dorfman May 08, 11:16

Is there (still) a commission-free trading time? TIA {nm} cmbastos May 06, 13:11

commission free Saturdays were discontinued in 2010 {nm} RazorHawk May 06, 13:48

They might have been reinstated or substituted for another period. Thanks. {nm} cmbastos May 06, 14:25

No, once it was discontinued, it never came back. {nm} ndmaster May 07, 17:27

"If you lose my money, you're dead to me!" Quote (Kevin O'Leary/Mr. Wonderful, Shark Tank) EarlyRetirement May 06, 12:07

Is there a resource for how to trade star bonds? And how to play as a beginner with just 2m? Seems like the block busters are above my pay. {nm} Fitch3k May 05, 04:16

HowProfitable Dot Com. Links INSIDE. RotoHockeyYTD2013MainPort May 05, 05:53

don't worry about your total $, just think in terms of percentages. If you are making 1% per day then that's good {nm} andy007 May 05, 08:55

Here's a nice tutuorial on RogerMore's site written back in 2013. I think most of it still applies (link inside) JDolphin May 05, 16:09

Thanks - and a more general tutorial at this link (inside). My main advice is to learn how moviestock and starbond adjusts work and play RogerMore May 05, 16:44

I see you are a member of RazorHawk's HSX school. You can ask questions there. DTravel May 05, 19:18

How do I get to be a member of Razorhawk's HSX School? I'd like to join and learn the ropes. Thank you {nm} DouglasPennington May 06, 07:28

Click "apply to join this league" at the following link. RogerMore May 06, 08:20

Thank you {nm} DouglasPennington May 06, 09:23

You can buy just a few shares of the blockbusters to get some of the benefit, You don't have to go all in every time {nm} JDolphin May 05, 19:46

Tks SCI, Awards, SEETV, FOXX, Sequels & UNIVX for the updates + congrats AFRAM. Funds rock! {nm} Qix May 05, 01:57

Yes thank you all for showing us you are still working on your funds even if their isn't a lot of money to be made {nm} JDolphin May 05, 16:11

What a terrible comment directed towards fund managers. Funds have put millions into my personal port. {nm} Universal 90 Fund May 06, 07:44

I'm sorry you took it that way - maybe I should have specified FOXX fund report for that last part. {nm} JDolphin May 06, 17:36

I meant opportunities to make money (as in no new movies for studio) - I appreciate managers staying with funds rather than walking away {nm} JDolphin May 06, 17:39

No worries. I was having a terrible day yesterday and overreacted. It would be nice to be able to edit and delete posts. {nm} Universal 90 Fund May 07, 07:35

Thanks guys for your support. <inside> SCIFund May 06, 12:40

Avengers Delist cost me 2 mil plus, my worst day ever.. MitchC May 04, 16:59

You'll have worse days. :D DTravel May 04, 17:36

Reply MitchC May 04, 19:04

I didn't have enough to do the derivatives but I am making a killing on the starbonds. {nm} Shifter May 05, 07:21

It didn't cost me any money. {nm} mike255 May 04, 18:26

Me too. I had all of the derivatives held wrong so I lost a total of H$3.4 million from those. MattW May 04, 21:34

Luckily other delists mean i only lost $1.8 million but the relentless march upwards will continue. {nm} blaze223 May 05, 00:14

I held them all wrong for Avengers, and was lucky to squeak out a .06% gain because I day traded to make up for the loss {nm} Quickslver99 May 05, 05:52

I ended up loosing about a million on the Derivatives. I should have put it all in PU instead of CA DouglasPennington May 05, 08:41

I'm doing long CA+PU for all big releases. Basically betting in favor of unpredictability {nm} andy007 May 05, 09:00

I'm thinking about adopting that strategy for Mad Max: Fury Road. Max long on both CA and PU. {nm} DouglasPennington May 05, 09:19

I never short a .PU the small profit is not worth the risk especially on a blockbuster {nm} JDolphin May 05, 16:13

The exact same risk as shorting a .CA {nm} ndmaster May 06, 05:21

WELL-DONE, As Usual, RazorHawk, And THANK YOU For The $$$$$. Let's Do It Again Very Soon! {nm} kibitzer May 04, 16:43

Congratulations AFRAM! {nm} Rocket123 aka PVL Admin May 04, 18:42

congrats AFRAM {nm} oneman May 04, 19:41

Gratz Razor! {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin May 04, 20:55

Good work {nm} SequelsFund May 05, 00:02

Grats! {nm} andy007 May 05, 02:11

5/19/15 {nm} RazorHawk May 05, 16:31

UNIVX Shareholder Update: The Summer of Profit is upon us. Universal 90 Fund May 04, 13:26

On Star Wars Day (May the 4th) I am rank 1138 :) remrej May 04, 12:04

ha Nice {nm} Dorfman May 04, 12:44

Thx for posting ;) {nm} Initech May 04, 12:49

better than 66... {nm} tealfan May 04, 15:10

Question about strategy mattep74 May 04, 08:49

Sell it and make a profit. {nm} mike255 May 04, 09:53

Swll it and stop playing ipo. Concentrate on starbonds. copy bond fund's moves. {nm} DiNar0 May 04, 10:58

*Sell {nm} DiNar0 May 04, 10:59

No. Look up portfolio diversification - it's an important concept even in this game {nm} remrej May 04, 12:05

Depends on if you day trade. IPOs can fluctuate widely - if you only hold 1 stock then you better be on the ball when it drops {nm} JDolphin May 04, 13:00

*if it drops {nm} ndmaster May 04, 13:43

Yes - and then is it enough to cover comission for flipping {nm} JDolphin May 04, 14:04

Usually the IPO begins trading 0900 my time. I have had times were I could sell it for a 30 percent profit at 0930. {nm} mattep74 May 04, 20:57

(AFRAM) Can Avoid A Smack-Down If It Is Added To The Market Calendar For Delist Cash Out Monday. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013MainPort May 03, 11:54

Not so for (OPENR) which will take a Smack-Down on Monday. Still has the (CHI44) Derivatives WRONG. RotoHockeyYTD2013MainPort May 03, 11:56

It was just delisted at H$103.76 {nm} Facto May 04, 16:13

HUH? (OPENR) just Dropped -3.63 (-7%) as Projected. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013MainPort May 04, 17:18

Ok, was talking about AFRAM - shoulda posted this under the thread start instead, then. {nm} Facto May 04, 17:35

Headline was Accurate as (AFRAM) was Delisted without taking the -3.594 MILL (AVNG2) Derivatives Hit. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013MainPort May 04, 18:16

103.76 - 3.594 = 100.166... AFRAM would delist either way. {nm} RazorHawk May 04, 18:28

Aren't you due for another self congratulatory thread? {nm} OPENRfund May 05, 04:43

Gave you lots of Notice about the (CHI44) Derivatives - PSA 8 Threads down - 3 PSA's in the League Comments. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013MainPort May 05, 05:42

I don't read your posts {nm} OPENRfund May 05, 13:52

On Second Thought, that Smack-Down might be Unavoidable as the (AVNG2.OW) probably comes first. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013MainPort May 03, 12:02

what crap are you making up now to get attention? {nm} AFRAM The African American Fund May 04, 15:33

AVNG2 delist MattW May 03, 09:50

The first one had a 2.53 DL multiplier. {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin May 03, 11:03

May outlook for SEQUELSFUND SequelsFund May 03, 07:01

Avengers MitchC May 03, 03:43

between 195 and 200 probably {nm} SequelsFund May 03, 06:31

Reply MitchC May 03, 06:35

May Outlook for SEQUELSFUND SequelsFund May 03, 06:59

If you have all 100k shares you will lose a bit over $3M, depending on actuals. {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin May 03, 13:49

Don't look at worldwide total to predict adjust and/or delist - just look at domestic total (US and Canada) {nm} JDolphin May 03, 11:23



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