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It was mentioned above so I guess I should go on to point 3: The dead cat bounce.

Posted by: Buy StarBondFund (a.k.a StarBondFund) on Nov 03, 08:47 in response to Buy StarBond Fund's post I guess I am consideered an "expert" so here...

Tuesdays are extremely important in the StarBond market.

In MOST cases, players with smaller ports dump adjusting bonds.  Right or wrong, sickness or health, to JDEPP do you part, it will happens.

What does that mean?  Widely held StarBonds, those that have taken large percentage increases will drop, due to the sell off.  How do you respond?  In many cases, short.  On the other hand, those that have had large percentage decresase will be covered.  Response?  Buy.

Is this perfect?  NO.  But it sure makes for a happy Wednesday.  I use coded holdings in my big port as well as BONDS and sort by shares held, so I know my strategy.  I will use a radar the other way to keep track of when the bounce turns.  It may be a day, 3 days, a week.  Then I dump.  In some cases, the bounce is counter to the "correct" play. A reversal can make money.  This is an advanced strategy.

The point is that just because the PABS says the stock will rise 5.62 points in 6 months, that does not mean "Stay long"  If the dROI is small, the bounce (short) may be the better move.

However, 2 factors.  One is the "Post Adjust Bond Show Factor" where many players will go long or short because the PABS said to.  We are playing the players here. Many people read the blog and follow along.   There is also the "the-numbers" factor for those who follow that chart.  Less recently than in the past, as that chart seems to be more in synch with KaiGee and PABS than in the past.  But when Bruce gets it wrong (like not acknowledging zero box office) it gets really screwy, and his followers can affect the "Current Price"

4)  I guess I have to quote Fess Parker playing Davy Crockett...."Be sure you're right, then go ahead."  If you have analyzed and analyzed and you are holding a StarBond in the "correct" direction and it goes the wrong way, be firm, hold the course, it will turn. 

I used to post some of those that BONDS was holding that were in that situation, but I was criticized by management, so I cannot.  There is one in particular that was waiting for box office to report and it went from about 3 points the wrong direction to the "correct" holding.  It will lose virtually all of its value on the next adjust then explode upwards.  (Find it, I gave enough hints)  Short now, then reverse on adjust.  It is a win win.  Don't just say, well it will go up from where I am.  Take the profit on the short and make a bigger long profit.

The good thing about StarBonds is that, generally we know the movement. You just have to pay attention to the news.

Starbond Strategy Help PRodQuanta Nov 02, 11:19

I use a hold & forget strategy with starbonds, I normally only check in when they get added to new movies or get detached from non-reporting {nm} lapuckfan Nov 02, 12:04

I follow KaiGee's starbond adjust webpage (found in the community drop down). If you follow correctly, Starbonds are guaranteed $$ {nm} dioneta Nov 02, 14:56

As an aside... I never hold a stock past an adjust unless the next one is in the same direction {nm} dioneta Nov 02, 14:57

if there is going to be a very large up or down adjust, but too far intot he future to hold that lone, i will buy or short for 1 or 2 days. forlorne Nov 02, 15:46

Play the percentages srrichardson Nov 02, 15:07

I don't discriminate wrt port size. Good advice is good advice. Thanks. {nm} PRodQuanta Nov 02, 15:21

I should stipulate, I go by the Dude and KaiGee. All of my stocks are held correctly according to these two sources, but some still go red? {nm} PRodQuanta Nov 02, 15:20

They may go red before they adjust due to speculative trading... Kaigee's numbers are based off of current trading.. dioneta Nov 02, 15:25

I do make money on most, just a couple go the wrong direction. For example, MCOTI has lost me $60,000 since her last adjust, shouldn't she PRodQuanta Nov 02, 16:01

Her next official adjust is ways off and she could potentiall have a smaller film (she has one wrapped open before.. dioneta Nov 02, 16:13

Thanks. Great advice. {nm} PRodQuanta Nov 02, 16:28

I'm sure others may have "better" ways to manage it... but that is the way that made the most mathematical sense to me :) {nm} dioneta Nov 02, 16:33

yes, but e.g. HWEAV has moved up, but i still knnow the adjust will be down on 12/8 unless hpyf2 delists $250 or higher. {nm} forlorne Nov 02, 15:49

Which proves the point that if your buying strategy for Starbonds is based on "adjusts"... you will not lose money {nm} dioneta Nov 02, 16:22

I don't pay too much attention to day to day movement - know what the adjust will be and if that makes it a good star bond then I hold JDolphin Nov 03, 01:13

I guess I am consideered an "expert" so here are my suggestions: Buy StarBond Fund Nov 03, 06:55

Great advice. Thanks binns. I have a fairly unique overall strategy that works quite well, but I was just wondering why PRodQuanta Nov 03, 08:22

My overall strategy in a paragraph: PRodQuanta Nov 03, 08:36

We pretty much have the same strategy. No wonder we've been moving along for a while... slappydavid Nov 03, 11:18

I'm not surprised by this at all... Haha. {nm} PRodQuanta Nov 03, 13:03

Also, when a bond gets attached to or detached from a project, or right after a bond adjusts, there's a flurry of movement on it. Paul2k Nov 03, 08:44

Perfect. Thanks. {nm} PRodQuanta Nov 03, 09:15

It was mentioned above so I guess I should go on to point 3: The dead cat bounce. Buy StarBondFund Nov 03, 08:47

Perfect. Great strategy points. I will implement. {nm} PRodQuanta Nov 03, 09:19





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