Playing & Trading Strategy

IPO sudden change lagunacat May 06, 08:56

forgot to add... lagunacat May 06, 09:01

That's just the way IPOs have played since they switched to the current method a year and a half ago. Plenty of grief has been written about Paul2k May 06, 09:07

Once people recognized it as a "pattern", it kinda became a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts- the IPO bounce. Paul2k May 06, 09:10

Thanks for your reply, lagunacat May 06, 09:44

That would be price manipulation. HSX has measures in place to spot it, and severely punishes anyone caught doing it. {nm} Dave3626 May 06, 10:40

Not really manipulation. People made some cash on the IPO and sell, others see it going down and sell as well, -more- arf May 06, 13:22

The way he phrased it made it sound like he was wondering if there was a group coordinating trades, which is manipulation. Dave3626 May 06, 13:40

Exactly lagunacat May 06, 16:22

What I've been wondering about Dave3626 May 06, 17:28

We are ALL in on it. Admit it, when you see a stock jumping, you get in, same for one falling, you also flip if the stock flips, it's HSX. {nm} arf May 06, 20:02

Yeah, that'd work, but you'd need a dozen people, and if the same 10 or so are found to "start" the moves, it's over. Finding them is -more arf May 06, 20:08

just curious {nm} shortit May 05, 14:11

How to become a billionaire... elchan May 05, 14:08

Not a billionaire, but I'll share... slappydavid May 05, 15:16

dont hold too much that you cant dump quickly if its leaking money.always adapt watch the day traders learn from them {nm} swordfish1 May 05, 15:47

Yes, I'm never afraid to dump a dog. {nm} elchan May 05, 16:17

Just like real life. Bonds are good to maintain your portfolio. elchan May 05, 15:58

For the starbonds, if you understand how they work/adjust, at least play the ones with good returns on the day before they halt and adjust. Paul2k May 05, 16:06

What is the formula for a starbond adjust, and how often does that happen? {nm} elchan May 05, 16:14

Answers to your starbond questions are in the HSX FAQ (link inside) Dave3626 May 05, 19:07

Join a PVL League, Rocket has instructions posted in each one on how to grow quick. Most is keeping up with news, not following others move {nm} arf May 05, 22:20

ment watch day trading stocks as they will settle after days thats when you make the money {nm} swordfish1 May 06, 01:56

Follow and trade on news posted on the Movies board, and divest when they stop moving. Earn and churn. RogerMore May 06, 09:58

When is it a good idea to keep a movie stock after it's opening weekend? rtbgamer76 May 05, 08:44

It's often a good idea to keep a moviestock after its OW. Most of the times, its best to keep it short. Sometimes, its good to keep it long. Paul2k May 05, 09:08

And, kid movies during summer or Christmas, mostly post-adjust long. Horror movies, almost always post-adjust short. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! May 05, 10:39

IMO, if you think there's more up side. elchan May 05, 12:44

Help me understand the calculation for a OW price move {nm} jtempkin May 03, 03:22

how can it have more short than long but only move 1%? jtempkin May 03, 03:23

Just because players buy or short any security, does not mean the movement price goes up or down every time... Flash May 03, 07:01

If somebody buys 100k long at the same time somebody buys 100k short, it doesn't change, buying short changes stk less than long IME. {nm} arf May 03, 07:44

That would make sense, since you're technically "borrowing" it, selling it at market price and buying it back later for less. {nm} Dave3626 May 03, 10:27

I think that is how it's "virtually" done on HSx, IPO stocks remaining don't count shorted shares -good (IMO) explanation inside- arf May 03, 10:44

Also, HSX might have their own secret-sauce version of an uptick rule in place to keep the shorts from exerting too much downward pressure. {nm} Dave3626 May 03, 12:30

shorting a stock actually increases the supply, as you are selling stock that you dont own....but my question... {nm} jtempkin May 03, 17:33

I guess I do not understand your question, then. {nm} arf May 04, 19:27

In real markets, shorting helps to stabilize the stock price. elchan May 05, 12:58

Regarding your IM Dave3626 May 06, 13:50

Congratulations to April 2012's Port Value League winners! (results inside) - new contest starts today. PVL Admin May 01, 22:59

Aww, what a way to drop out of the 1.5-2.5B league... :( {nm} accountant_4_Jesus May 02, 16:10

you had a good run... {nm} MisterTony May 03, 14:00

Top gaining funds for April 2012. Congrats to [BONDS] at #1. islander May 01, 16:06

My first full month as a fund manager and I'm #9! Yay! {nm} accountant_4_Jesus May 01, 16:21

I didn't know you managed the Awards fund until I read above post. Well, now I've bought into it, so keep up the good work, ok? Dave3626 May 01, 17:58

LOL, I'll try to. :) accountant_4_Jesus May 02, 16:21

That's what Netflix is for, my Aussie friend. Why buy when you can rent a scratched up DVD that may or may not play? ;-) {nm} Dave3626 May 02, 16:52

I'm not sure we have Netflix here, or if we do, I haven't heard about it. (I must be living in some deep dark cave somewhere lol.) accountant_4_Jesus May 02, 21:34

Nope, no Netflix here. iTunes movie downloads also hideously overpriced. Jane_Citizen May 03, 00:52

Though I joked about the traditional disc rental, they also do streaming to your comp, which is why I'm surprised you don't have it there. Dave3626 May 03, 08:14

Sounds good ;) {nm} accountant_4_Jesus May 03, 16:01

Once we get our national fibre-to-the-node network thingy finished, I'm sure someone will do that. Jane_Citizen May 04, 08:00

Thanks for the compilation! Which ones are orphaned? TRUE hasn't moved much in a while... {nm} arf May 01, 17:08

Thnx. As for orphans, I haven't had time to really look at each managers performance, so islander May 01, 18:16

My wife thanks you, my daughter thanks you, my grandchildren thank you, and I thank you. {nm} Buy StarBond Fund 18 May 01, 20:56

Update: It's HARD being a Horror Fund manager 'round this time of year! Thanks to those who have invested... HorrorFund May 02, 06:44

October.... just remember October.... {nm} RHAWK May 02, 10:08

Yep! :) {nm} Your Boss May 03, 04:29

At least all I can do is go up OriginalFund May 03, 18:46

I think it was Jane_C who told me that the strategy changes as Port size grows. It's an interesting thing, learning new ways to invest. {nm} Ryan_Stewart Apr 30, 18:47

Is there a point (you billionaires) where there's nothing left to learn? {nm} Ryan_Stewart Apr 30, 18:47

Nope. {nm} RogerMore Apr 30, 18:49

Death {nm} Buy StarBond Fund 18 May 01, 08:54

Been playing for 14 years, and still learning all the time. {nm} JohnTEQP May 03, 18:23

learning all the time {nm} swordfish1 May 01, 02:42

Larger ports allow you to play more securities at once. My funnest time so far was going from 90M-135M {nm} arf May 01, 16:11

Bucket List? wtf is that? {nm} Ryan_Stewart Apr 30, 18:14

Actors that have no release movies that counted towards their TAG in the last 3 years. nomyst Apr 30, 18:15

Here is an explanation for you... accountant_4_Jesus Apr 30, 18:18

The key thing is HSX discretion, so you don't know if/when they will delist. Jane_Citizen Apr 30, 18:29

Sorry that should be reply to the original question {nm} Jane_Citizen Apr 30, 18:29

The pattern to the delists is what I've observed from the past 2 years of delists. accountant_4_Jesus Apr 30, 18:31

why would you invest in something if it isn't really going to go up or down, necessarily? Ryan_Stewart Apr 30, 18:34

At his TAG price from what I read. Anyone can confirm... {nm} nomyst Apr 30, 18:35

To use JVOIG again as an example... accountant_4_Jesus Apr 30, 18:38

Okay, now I understand...finally! Thanks. Bucket listers are a product of our own research? Is someone else doing the work for me? {nm} Ryan_Stewart Apr 30, 18:41

RazorHawk has a list on his website of potential Bucket List candidates (per the link that Rocket123 posted below). {nm} accountant_4_Jesus Apr 30, 18:42

KaiGee site has a list too (link inside) JDolphin Apr 30, 21:30

Here is the pattern of Bucket List delists for the past few years... accountant_4_Jesus Apr 30, 18:48

The final question is about HSX discretion: what are the probabilities of them actually delisting if they're on the bucket list? Ryan_Stewart Apr 30, 19:41

That's something that can't really be answered by us, only DMac knows when the Bucket List delist is scheduled to occur. accountant_4_Jesus Apr 30, 19:58

That's the problem for small ports - you could be holding them for 1 month, 6 months or longer {nm} JDolphin Apr 30, 21:32

THANK YOU For compiling those dates! I've been holding some of them since March! {nm} arf Apr 30, 20:52

One last point...MWEBB will make 1393 total StarBonds on 48 pages. A delisting of a dozen or so will keep us away from Buy StarBond Fund 18 May 01, 09:09

Read RH's explanation. http://www.hsxdude.com/7/post/2012/04/the-bucket-list-april-2012.html {nm} PVL Admin Apr 30, 18:38

Ah good! Someone did the dirty work for me!! {nm} Ryan_Stewart Apr 30, 18:45

I'm probably about to find out, but: OW is not a write off (like Call/put) if BO doesn't make it? it's just a loss of the difference? {nm} Ryan_Stewart Apr 30, 13:28

.OW cashes out at whatever the box office was, so it is a much lower risk way for players with smaller ports to get in on big productions. {nm} arf Apr 30, 13:55

Lower capital investment....risk increases alfpaulytd2012 Apr 30, 14:13

True, but if .OW halted at the same time the stock did, it would nearly guarantee gains each week. {nm} arf Apr 30, 14:17

Don't get the point and its moot anyway b/c they don't halt at the same time alfpaulytd2012 Apr 30, 14:29

Correct....if you're wrong, you don't lose everything {nm} alfpaulytd2012 Apr 30, 14:15

Gmov i did say a while ago you would pass me by wednesday of last week ,took a couple of extra days but you blaze223 Apr 30, 12:22

New PVL month competition begins tomorrow. LAST CHANCE to get in before reset. (If you have 10 MIL or 3.5 BIL, there is a league for you. PVL Admin Apr 30, 07:45

LEAGUE MILESTONE: The Port Value League series crossed 300 players today. Party is at my house. BYOB. PVL Admin Apr 30, 07:48

Awesome! Congrats Rocket! And thanks for your effort, PVLs are great! {nm} slappydavid Apr 30, 10:17

Thanks for setting the PVLs up! They are a GREAT Incentive to really earn money, rather than tinker around! {nm} arf Apr 30, 12:30

Yesh...thanks, Rocket! The PVLs make HSX even more fun. {nm} Ryan_Stewart Apr 30, 13:27

Here are some top historic $$ Reset Plays momentum858 Apr 29, 15:46

The Reset Method arf Apr 29, 16:07

"historic reset plays" = no context to why they moved and shouldn't be thought of as they always move alfpaulytd2012 Apr 29, 17:05

Reset plays are packing strong 2nd and 3rd wind attempts setting new patterns (BIG HSX$$$) momentum858 Apr 29, 15:39

I'll add: Don't go all in at reset, though, dozens move, and only a few will continue to move. Best time is reset +1 to reset +2 hours. {nm} arf Apr 29, 15:46

Black Panther BPNTH another strong recent reset - each week seems like more of them $$$ {nm} momentum858 Apr 29, 16:04

Rocket, I just responded to the email about your fund. {nm} RHAWK Apr 29, 08:46

Righto. Thanks. {nm} PVL Admin Apr 29, 11:43

damn it,damn it, damn it. everything is red. bangs goes my 6 day streak of beautiful green lol {nm} swordfish1 Apr 29, 02:01

Today is a beautiful green but the carnage tomorrow with the OW adjusts is going to be hard {nm} blaze223 Apr 29, 11:09

I feel your pain. After a month of great days, I'm seeing red suddenly. Time to clean up the port a bit. {nm} arf Apr 29, 16:11

I was down 6 out of the last 7. {nm} perply1 Apr 30, 09:46

New PVL Level for 2.5-3.5 Billionaires (link inside) PVL Admin Apr 28, 12:27

If you have more than 3.5 BIL, you are welcome to join this level as well. You are at a disadvantage anyway, so it doesn't affect play. {nm} PVL Admin Apr 28, 23:19

Really? The Jackson Five Are Reported To Be Going On Tour "Reuniting" With A Hologram Michael Jackson. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Apr 27, 19:07

Sorry. Wrong Board. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Apr 27, 19:22

Can someone tell me what port monkey is? {nm} EthanHunt Apr 27, 14:49

The coolest thing since HSX, Indispensable, awesome, and all that other stuff too. Wish somebody told me about it long ago. {nm} arf Apr 27, 20:44

OK...but what is it? Where do I get it? {nm} EthanHunt Apr 27, 20:52

Port Monkey links inside JDolphin Apr 27, 21:44

You've heard of "a monkey on your back"? Well, this is one that drinks port. :P {nm} DTravel Apr 27, 22:21

With one trade i have almost managed to commit myself to being all in only $2.6 left to play with {nm} blaze223 Apr 27, 12:36

Is this Blaze, the Rock Star who gave us the ledger? If so, great to see your name on the boards. {nm} mrbinns Apr 28, 11:00

Er no {nm} blaze223 Apr 28, 11:47

I think you mean Blaine (I think) {nm} Dave3626 Apr 29, 10:16

Money not invested is money lost. {nm} arf Apr 30, 13:27