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Plugging my league: if you are trading from NZ or Aust, come join ... Jane_Citizen Jul 29, 21:21

Can anyone tell me why when i short 100,000 shares of a stock prices at $25.03 it shorts it at $24.94 automaticall giving me a 9k loss? {nm} Dorfman Jul 29, 09:47

In the time between your order going through and you looking at your port, it dropped $.09. That sucks, but sometimes it works the other way {nm} PRodQuanta Jul 29, 09:52

Chuckage. If it bothers you as much as it does me, just short in increments...I do it in batches of 25k, so i put in 4 orders in a row. Paul2k Jul 29, 10:05

i'll try that and do smaller orders. Ya gotta love port monkey {nm} Dorfman Jul 29, 10:17

Would not the previous transactions influence (adversely) the price at which the later transactions were executed?{nm} DTXbro Jul 29, 17:02

Is that logical? Jane_Citizen Jul 29, 20:14

*you're getting in at a lower price (I meant) {nm} Jane_Citizen Jul 29, 20:14

Example: starting price $25. A full 100k short would get it to you at $24.90. A short at 25k would get it to you at 24.98. A second 25k Paul2k Jul 29, 21:40

I think your maths is right, yeah - I'm going to have to do an experiment to demonstrate it to myself Jane_Citizen Jul 30, 04:40

just hit 1 billion today jpass99 Jul 28, 20:03

woohoo! {nm} tealfan Jul 28, 20:06

Congratulations on your first billion...and your first post. {nm} PVL Admin Jul 28, 20:26

Sweet milestone. Congrats! {nm} edzep Jul 28, 20:34

wow. Super Jelly! {nm} EggNogAdam Jul 29, 05:24

Congrats! You should post this on the Movies board, you'll get more well deserved kudos there. {nm} stevie1der328 Jul 29, 07:11

wow congrats {nm} Dorfman Jul 29, 09:48

One billion is definitely worth a congrats :) {nm} Jane_Citizen Jul 30, 04:40

Still Mad Jelly! {nm} EggNogAdam Jul 30, 12:33

great job must be a big step and gold {nm} Shiku201 Aug 08, 09:05

you would be rich!!!!javascript:EmotionsDialog.insert('smiley-money-mouth.gif','emotions_dlg.money_mouth'); Shiku201 Aug 08, 09:07

call / put theory help GuitarGenius7 Jul 28, 19:51

Ok, bear with me... accountant_4_Jesus Jul 28, 20:13

Correction, the Call for The Smurfs is for $25M, not $20M. {nm} accountant_4_Jesus Jul 28, 20:14

A call says the movie will hit the strike price. A put says it won't. LONG the choice you agree with and SHORT the one you disagree with. {nm} PVL Admin Jul 28, 20:45

Unless you think it will only miss or hit its strike price by a minuscule amount, in which case you short both Call & Put. {nm} accountant_4_Jesus Jul 30, 05:40

The math isn't that hard JohnTEQP Jul 28, 22:04

I'm a little surprised to hear a seasoned player say that 'because it is trading at $60, so it will probably adjust near that' ndmaster Jul 28, 22:26

Yeah, I was pretty spectacularly wrong on this one JohnTEQP Aug 01, 12:17

Hey Flash - I expect to be through your part of the country on Aug 11th. If you're still in that part of the country... {nm} MojaveMeg Jul 28, 16:38

Yep...we're still here... been a fairly mild summer so far... Flash Jul 29, 08:47

We're heading for Jacob Lake for the Pecos conference. Midway between Fredonia and the North Rim. In October we'll be back up in MojaveMeg Jul 29, 11:49

I remember your Kanab trip... I think you need to stick around St. George for awhile! :-) {nm} Flash Jul 29, 15:58

Maybe for the October trip I should stay overnight in St. George rather than Vegas. I can make Kanab in a day but I don't MojaveMeg Jul 29, 17:31

Congrats on your port, btw... wow, you really jumped up there! Here I thought I was ONLY $1B or so behind you! Fat chance! :-) {nm} Flash Jul 29, 08:52

I was really stalled for a while after the most recent changes. Summer's been good to me the last couple of months. {nm} MojaveMeg Jul 29, 11:51

Well.. DUH... the last time *I* looked you were $2B+... now it's FIVE??? Wow... would you manage MY port for awhile?? lol {nm} Flash Jul 29, 15:59

Shut the front door! I didn't realize that I could place limit orders! All this time I didn't know {nm} PRodQuanta Jul 28, 13:12

I spend half the day trying to make up money that the reset trading breaks me on each morning since I'm not up at that hour.... PRodQuanta Jul 28, 13:13

You could also have reversed on the stocks that were probably gonna go up/down on reset b4 u went to sleep {nm} alfpaul Jul 28, 13:57

Yeah, I know and I sometimes do that. However, that doesn't always work either. {nm} PRodQuanta Jul 28, 14:35

careful though, stop loss does not work {nm} lapuckfan Jul 28, 16:16

Thanks lapuckfan. I also just read that in the FAQ section. That would be awesome! {nm} PRodQuanta Jul 28, 16:20

I would like to know more about limit orders. Is there a thread on a certain page I should read or should I just ask for help? {nm} KaylahCOV Jul 28, 14:24

Very bottom of this page under Help, go to Glossary then Limit Orders. I don't find them particularly effective for reset trading because MojaveMeg Jul 28, 16:35

Never played Openers before. Please help me to make sure I get the idea - GuitarGenius7 Jul 28, 09:49

More or less the right idea! Just know that the price doesn't halt until Saturday at 6pm PT and you will get cash out on Sunday midday. {nm} PRodQuanta Jul 28, 09:53

saturday?? Wait... is it OW calls and puts that halt on Friday, then? {nm} GuitarGenius7 Jul 28, 10:01

correct. {nm} perply1 Jul 28, 10:17

Is it stupid to let my WO earnings (if positive) sit till Monday or Tuesday? To hang onto them (cause I'm away)? {nm} KaylahCOV Jul 28, 09:56

There is generally a sell-off after the adjust on Sunday and many (most?) openers will drop by Monday morning. It's possible to set an MojaveMeg Jul 28, 11:05

Again, Thank You. Is there a specific time when trading is allowed on openers on Sunday? GuitarGenius7 Jul 28, 11:37

The adjust happens around mid-morning Sunday - as soon as the ERC estimates come in. The joke was always that MojaveMeg Jul 28, 12:39

a wealth of information. Thank you. This is the first time I've ever bothered to ask questions. Wish I had asked earlier. {nm} GuitarGenius7 Jul 28, 12:51

Check the Announcement Board for previous MovieStock Adjusts, which are usually between 10-11 am Pacific. Antibody Jul 28, 14:13

Yes... many times you can log in on Saturday...get the weekend #'s... and change positions if you need to before the openers halt! Flash Jul 28, 10:20

well said! And thank you for some 3rd person info that I didn't have, myself! {nm} EggNogAdam Jul 28, 11:31

Are there any apps available for HSX? News, forums or actual trading? {nm} GuitarGenius7 Jul 28, 03:52

nope, no apps. tho you can use hsx.com/mobile islander Jul 28, 04:54

might have to give that a go. thanks. {nm} GuitarGenius7 Jul 28, 09:43

...Speaking of old players... I see "Bonnie" on the LTD board...(TWO BIG ports!) Bonnie come back and post once in awhile! Flash Jul 27, 19:39

yes, I miss Bonnie, also OTT, who I think is happyone (?); I miss both of your posts {nm} daveart Jul 28, 09:18

I don't play anymore except to restack my port sometimes. hope you are well. {nm} chipshot Jul 28, 14:32

I don't know who that is. ;) - starrynut Jul 28, 18:42

Aww...soo good to see ya! I miss the old crew around here! You should come more! Your port is a KILLER! Congrats! {nm} Flash Jul 29, 08:49

How does Funds share price works? Scallywags Jul 27, 19:20

The price goes up by the movies, bonds, etc., they earn on various films, etc.. Flash Jul 27, 19:33

Thanks Flash Scallywags Jul 27, 19:41

Additionally, a fund is valued at H$1 for every million of net value. Each theme fund manager starts with H$20 million and the MojaveMeg Jul 27, 21:11

Nope...I've not ever been a fund manager...but MojaveMeg who posted in your thread here has! :-) {nm} Flash Jul 28, 07:11

Is it better: buy higher # of cheaper shares or lower # of expensive shares? GuitarGenius7 Jul 27, 14:27

um, you buy neither alfpaul Jul 27, 15:10

if you had to though alfpaul Jul 27, 15:13

If you're strictly daytrading (which I don't suggest for small ports) I would stick with Flash Jul 27, 19:17

I appreciate your input! Thank you! {nm} GuitarGenius7 Jul 28, 02:59

You're welcome. Good luck. {nm} Flash Jul 28, 07:12

how do you arrive at 3% to be the goal? Thank you! {nm} GuitarGenius7 Jul 28, 03:00

Commission both ways alfpaul Jul 28, 08:45

openers... I can't usually play on FRIDAYS. Should I buy my openers on Thursday, then? {nm} KaylahCOV Jul 28, 03:42

Sure...why not? If you think they'll adjust up..long'em.. if you think they won't.. short them. Flash Jul 28, 07:13

thank you {nm} KaylahCOV Jul 28, 09:31

uh... one question on put/call. KaylahCOV Jul 28, 14:28

Ugh what a crappy day.. Down half a mil {nm} Dorfman Jul 27, 12:41

Hang in there, everyone has a bad day every once in a while... {nm} slappydavid Jul 27, 20:17

Just one thing to say "Plastics" {nm} laura1818 Jul 28, 08:17

What are adjust (if any) and delist dates for a movie that goes wide after 1 week of limited release? {nm} unifex Jul 27, 03:31

I choose to help you help yourself. Answer is in the Glossary under ADJUST and CASH OUT. {nm} osmosis2003 Jul 27, 03:46

Thanks Osmosis - I had tried the glossary but missed the detail. Got it now. {nm} unifex Jul 27, 03:51

Glad I could help. Entry really should say weekends, not weeks since delist is on Monday.(tuesday after long weekends) {nm} osmosis2003 Jul 27, 03:58

Commission Free Trades? MarkN Jul 26, 20:14

sorry to say they went away long ago...maybe a couple years ago? {nm} tealfan Jul 26, 20:16

no commission free days at all any more sadly. also, halt time has changed, and there are new OW warrants (new in the past year) {nm} islander Jul 26, 20:17

Thanks for the updates. Very helpful. MarkN Jul 26, 20:30

If it was '97 you joined, then you remember Saturday halts back then also...and "Scapey The Goat" as well... :-) Flash Jul 27, 07:32

Hah! Yes, I forgot about Scapey the Goat. I also remember significant lag times on trades . . . MarkN Jul 27, 12:34

Yes, I remember all those players... Flash Jul 27, 19:22

Amoxy, Banzai, and Redhead are still around but maybe not playing. We've been hanging out in another forum since some MojaveMeg Jul 27, 21:18

Chest! Whoa good to see you! amoxy Jul 27, 21:31

Chest Rockwell, I thought you fell off the face of the earth. {nm} Redhead (aka Trish) Jul 27, 22:44

I don't know what happened to the inside of my message, but here it is again. Redhead (aka Trish) Jul 27, 22:54

Hi Trish. Hope you are well. Maybe I'll hit up the new board and say hi soon. been too long :) nm chipshot Jul 28, 14:37

Okay, I signed up, but I never got the confirmation e-mail, so I can't post wildly inaccurate information on that site. (nm) MarkN Aug 04, 06:17

My Strategy Shiku201 Jul 26, 14:32

My strategy Shiku201 Jul 26, 14:33

Well, with a small port, you must think "short term" I would not invest in any movie that is further out than 30 days... Flash Jul 26, 16:42

Hybrid strat. as329105 Jul 26, 23:02

There's many ways to make $$ here...many trading styles... however, my point was only that Flash Jul 27, 07:29

well said! {nm} GuitarGenius7 Jul 28, 11:49

YEA {nm} Shiku201 Aug 08, 08:57

Aren't several Starbonds supposed to adjust today? JTURT for example? {nm} The-EFNP Jul 25, 14:17

Starbond adjust day is on Tuesday, come back tomorrow ;) {nm} karspov Jul 25, 14:23

Ah-ha! Thank you. {nm} The-EFNP Jul 25, 14:38

I'm assuming that guy's name is Juan Turtle? What's he been in? {nm} GuitarGenius7 Jul 25, 14:39

How can I figure out what I'm going to pay for a transaction? KaylahCOV Jul 25, 09:37

You will get 70,000 x current price x .99 If current price is 52.3, then you should get about 3.624 M H$ {nm} StarBondFund (Buy Euro 6) Jul 25, 09:43

commission is 1% of the value {nm} islander Jul 25, 10:40

oh wow. that's not complicated at all. ha! Thank you! {nm} KaylahCOV Jul 25, 14:05

sweet action. I just learned something. "Take THAT, Brain!" {nm} EggNogAdam Jul 28, 15:20

IPO Thoughts: The Animation Fund [AMATN] - The HSX Dude RazorHawk Jul 25, 08:12

***10 years to make 200 million*** Vlad1982 Jul 24, 22:03

Playing openers is one of the best way to maximise your capital... karspov Jul 24, 22:13

I am terrible at figuring odds on that. {nm} KaylahCOV Jul 25, 09:36

No. 1 with $65.8 million ELDIABLO Jul 24, 10:10

Yes, however this is probably a better post for the Movies Board... Players Board is mainly for teaching newer players the tips of trading.. {nm} Flash Jul 24, 15:30

sweet. Maybe I'll take a gang of old men with me to the theater this weekend and help the second weekend income. {nm} EggNogAdam Jul 25, 09:40



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