Playing & Trading Strategy

With so many billionaires, and near billionaires in this game, do little investors like myself really affect the game? {nm} elchan Jun 06, 13:55

Yes, because billionaires cannot buy more shares of a stock than you can. {nm} dioneta Jun 06, 14:02

True, but if you have enough money, you can buy more of different stock, and even play both side, short and long, on two related movies. {nm} elchan Jun 06, 15:19

Yes.. But they cannot affect individual stock movement more than you.. and you play "short" OR "long" not simultaneously {nm} dioneta Jun 06, 16:47

You can play short AND long. For instance I feel that MADG3 is too low, so play long and if I feel that MADG3 will take a bite elchan Jun 06, 17:44

? Paul2k Jun 06, 17:56

Yes, sometimes, I scare myself. Here's the logic: elchan Jun 06, 18:09

But they aren't dependent on each other like that. You're returning to your zero-sum supposition, which doesn't hold here. Paul2k Jun 06, 18:23

There's definitely a correlation in gross for a weekend between the grosses of movies opening the same weekend. elchan Jun 06, 18:34

Oh there is? Good luck finding that. I'm sure the movie studios and tracking firms and box office predictors would love to see your findings Paul2k Jun 06, 19:53

This is true. And I would take that approach in real life, since I want to be efficient and get my job done quickly. elchan Jun 07, 06:59

lot of jumps in logic alfpaulytd2012 Jun 06, 18:26

Wish it was all logic based, but we're talking consumer behaviour, and statistical analysis... elchan Jun 06, 18:49

see, that's where you always sound like such a noob alfpaulytd2012 Jun 06, 19:00

But I am a noob, not trying to hide anything. What about the post-AVNGR slump? elchan Jun 06, 19:18

*banging head on desk* {nm} Paul2k Jun 06, 19:55

Please, no need to hurt yourself over me. ;-) {nm} elchan Jun 06, 20:10

I'd argue the point but its kind of pointless alfpaulytd2012 Jun 06, 23:56

Come one guys, why so negative. This is a discussion board, and we are discussing things. I don't to claim that I know anything. elchan Jun 07, 06:45

elchan, there have been FAQs and tutorials put out by players on pretty much all aspects of HSX. There used to be a half dozen websites Paul2k Jun 07, 07:05

Thought that was what I was doing, asking question, through out some ideas, getting responses. elchan Jun 07, 07:58

I think initially, you came on a little strong and full of declarations, making it seem like you thought you knew everything, even if that Paul2k Jun 07, 09:00

it only happens when someone doesn't honestly have a question alfpaulytd2012 Jun 07, 09:55

Not to belabor a point, but stock performances are not linked in a zero sum fashion... even if you think they are. dioneta Jun 07, 10:21

I promise you that unless they inherited a port, every billionaire started off with a $2M just like you did. Tanker Jun 06, 14:04

Every investor is sacred, every investor is great islander Jun 06, 14:13

I know I am, but my who portfolio is probably what you would commission on a trade. ;-) {nm} elchan Jun 06, 15:20

Must be late on my payments, my ISP is skipping words and letters. {nm} elchan Jun 06, 15:34

That was a beautiful sentence. :) {nm} Paul2k Jun 06, 17:36

Duh, henglish, I lern good time. {nm} elchan Jun 06, 18:13

Easy for you to say. {nm} Tanker Jun 06, 17:40

Well, this is eye opening. Anyways, as I said I like playing this game, and enjoy coming up with my theories on how I think things can work elchan Jun 07, 11:59

if it's true that a trader has to keep discovering/shifting strategies as port size grows, then I don't think you have to worry about Dave3626 Jun 07, 15:59

4 billion dollars!!! JohnTEQP Jun 06, 09:01

Huzzah! {nm} Tanker Jun 06, 09:24

well done dude {nm} swordfish1 Jun 06, 10:28

WHOA!!! Awesome! Congrats! {nm} PRodNano Jun 06, 12:13

congrats! {nm} tealfan Jun 06, 12:43

Mazel tov! :) {nm} accountant_4_Jesus Jun 07, 16:08

Congrats.Keep it up {nm} laujer Jun 10, 10:12

Commission Ttaaggggeerr Jun 06, 06:03

In total? Just one trade? Last month? {nm} Flash Jun 06, 07:38

any of the above? {nm} Ttaaggggeerr Jun 06, 09:08

1% is taken on every trade. Only thing commission free is the cashout when a movie delists. {nm} Dave3626 Jun 06, 09:30

One more exception i forgot to mention (inside) Dave3626 Jun 06, 09:32

In Your Trade History. Amount - (Quantity * Price) = Commission {nm} Antibody Jun 06, 10:02

Thank you very much! Ttaaggggeerr Jun 06, 10:11

Archive of old HSX website from 12 years ago 121Jigowatts Jun 05, 14:13

Click on "impatient" if that doesn't load for you right away {nm} 121Jigowatts Jun 05, 14:14

Ah yes, our Orange period. Miss so many of those folk :( {nm} MojaveMeg Jun 05, 15:14

I think that screenshot was even pre-orange period... {nm} Oleg Max Jun 05, 15:17

MojaveMeg HSX Orange period = everything that happened at HSX when the logo was an orange circle RazorHawk Jun 05, 15:24

Just after 9/11.... 121Jigowatts Jun 05, 15:41

The logo changed from orange to this jazzy looking graphic between Jan-March of 2002 121Jigowatts Jun 05, 15:56

That archive page came even before this orange logo. {nm} Antibody Jun 05, 16:19

Yes right. I guess in 2000 I'd only been playing for 3 years and the old-timers like Full Merino and AB were our trading gods. {nm} MojaveMeg Jun 05, 23:02

*sniff* {nm} Flash Jun 06, 07:37

Ha, look at the price of those starbonds. Them were the days. Although, they had done away with the bond yields by that point. {nm} Paul2k Jun 05, 15:46

Not long before I arrived. But, I wouldn't remember, anyway; I've only seen the HSX home page about 5 times in all these years. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Jun 05, 18:02

SLJAC has dropped in price quite a bit. He was at H$1,706.00. {nm} elchan Jun 05, 18:48

Ah the music exchange even more unpredictable than films {nm} blaze223 Jun 06, 01:06

Yeah, I remember trying to figure that out when I started my first port. I feel like I made some $ of the Chili Peppers... {nm} stevie1der328 Jun 06, 06:34

There's a music exchange? Does it still exist? {nm} elchan Jun 06, 10:31

The music exchange is long gone. For a while they kept the all time leaderboard up. {nm} Buy StarBond Fund 18 Jun 07, 07:45

Anyone remember that guy Treehard who spent all his time Checked Out Jun 08, 10:59

Stuck in a rut Dave3626 Jun 05, 11:05

Having spent 13 years to get to $200 million but significantly less to do the next $158 i may not be an expert blaze223 Jun 05, 11:22

I would say constantly assessing where I'm at in the game helps me alfpaulytd2012 Jun 05, 12:32

I have no quick reply for "quick reply" box except to say "more inside" Dave3626 Jun 05, 13:17

i'd say that JSEGE and the other 2 big % bonds yesterday were more circumstance driven alfpaulytd2012 Jun 05, 13:58

Dave - Know exactly where to place your funds. Get in tpoch with me {nm} scott108 Jun 06, 05:46

Part of the fun of the game is to adjust your strategy as your port grows... slappydavid Jun 05, 13:17

Yeah, for a while slappy and I had the same strategy and did really well, but it gets exhausting and you start having lots of cash lay aroun PRodNano Jun 05, 13:24

The "old strategy" was what exactly? If you don;t me asking, that is.. {nm} Dave3626 Jun 05, 13:27

"mind me asking" ^^ {nm} Dave3626 Jun 05, 13:28

Inside PRodNano Jun 05, 15:03

What was the adjustment that you made? {nm} Dave3626 Jun 05, 13:26

I basically started investing in openers some months in advance... slappydavid Jun 05, 13:48

I almost left this game as got so fed up with losing money. now ive changebmy playing style and im excited again. keep going. {nm} swordfish1 Jun 05, 14:02

You're stuck in a rut? That's interesting because we started our accounts at nearly the same time and we have almost the same $. 121Jigowatts Jun 05, 14:19

I take that back..... 121Jigowatts Jun 05, 14:30

Quick protip for beginners: diversification is not a good strategy at the start. If you find a sure thing, make sure you go all in. {nm} stevie1der328 Jun 05, 08:48

how would a new player know what is a "sure thing" so they could make sure to "go all in"? {nm} RazorHawk Jun 05, 08:55

Starbonds, openers on Friday and Saturday when numbers come in. You are correct though, there are more "sure things" that come w experience. {nm} PRodNano Jun 05, 08:58

Well, as a beginner I can say a sure thing is usually wait until Friday, and the estimates start coming in. elchan Jun 05, 09:33

What finally got me over the hump of being cash poor was HPOT8. Reshorted, sold off slow movers to raise enough to forlorne Jun 05, 09:38

I do not agree with this tip. {nm} PVL Admin Jun 05, 11:22

Looking back on it, yeah, it's vague, overly simplistic, and not very helpful. It made sense in my head when I said it. {nm} stevie1der328 Jun 05, 13:41

In my WBROX fund port I reshort all the time (click through for thought process) MisterTony Jun 05, 13:47

Today I will become a BILLIONAIRE when SWHTM.OW pays out. Fingers crossed I still will be when the day ends. {nm} osmosis2003 Jun 04, 11:37

Well done anyway maybe it will stick tomorrow if not today {nm} blaze223 Jun 04, 11:43

well done dude. it doesn't get any easier once you become a billionaire {nm} swordfish1 Jun 04, 12:53

good for you :) {nm} Jane_Citizen Jun 04, 16:00

with a million dollar cushion now ...congrats! {nm} tealfan Jun 04, 19:01

Mazel tov! :) {nm} accountant_4_Jesus Jun 05, 03:06

Kudos to ya...and if you DO make it, the keys to the Exec. Washroom will be sent to ya! :-) {nm} Flash Jun 05, 08:36

Any chnace of getting a second washroom? There are over 1400 of us sharing just the one... {nm} forlorne Jun 05, 09:40

Just hit 300MM...a banner day!! {nm} stiv Jun 04, 09:25

way to go there, i am watching as i am 58M in front {nm} blaze223 Jun 04, 09:38

raise the roof! {nm} tealfan Jun 04, 10:15

Mazel tov! :) {nm} accountant_4_Jesus Jun 05, 03:06

What is the threshold for wide release? Yukos Jun 04, 01:39

A limited release is less than 650 screens {nm} eyescovered Jun 04, 03:58

650 Theaters {nm} RazorHawk Jun 04, 06:05

The African American Fund [AFRAM] is now halfway to delist (after 3.5 months) {nm} AFRAM-The African American Fund Jun 03, 15:47

Half way point is 44.72M.....why you ask? ... Buy StarBond Fund 18 Jun 03, 19:08

Awesome calculation. The Roto tips his hat. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Jun 04, 17:50

So, CTHER will be competing against herself next week SNHTM vs PROME. Any particular trading strategy for situations like that? {nm} elchan Jun 03, 13:39

dude, you keep asking these sort of questions and the HSX gods wont be pleased.just go with your gut instinct {nm} swordfish1 Jun 03, 15:22

I don't believe in gods. ;-) {nm} elchan Jun 03, 19:24

I'd give you a legit answer but it would come off ****y/mean so I'd just suggest learning how bonds work alfpaulytd2012 Jun 03, 22:09

Well, thanks for the tid bit. Then from my calculations of the CTHER starbond, she should get adjusted to $39.23... elchan Jun 04, 08:35

ok, now question alfpaulytd2012 Jun 04, 09:08

Depends, in RL, 1.117% is good. Since I'm just starting, I don't know yet what's considered a good ROI, yet. elchan Jun 04, 09:27

Assuming you don't have enough to invest in everything, start with the highest ROI of bonds delisting soon and forlorne Jun 04, 09:59

Why are the bonds, never at what I calculate them to be? elchan Jun 04, 12:16

guess its not clear in the glossary....starbonds adjust the tuesday after the movie they are attached to delists alfpaulytd2012 Jun 04, 12:55

meant 3 weekends from now after the 4th weekend of wide release in that 1st sentence {nm} alfpaulytd2012 Jun 04, 12:56

Yes, I'm getting it. Using MPFEI is a better example. I calculated her to be at $55.87 with May 25th gross for DRKSH. elchan Jun 04, 14:50

would say you're beginning to grasp the basics alfpaulytd2012 Jun 04, 16:06

Here's an easy way to play bonds. After you've grasped the fundamental ideas that alfpaul wrote about (which is important) you go to Dave3626 Jun 04, 17:29

Dave, that's a great link. So they're estimating the adjust price of CTHER to be $65.14, post PROME. elchan Jun 04, 17:41

A note: Kaigee's starbond adjust calcs are done based off of the market price at the last website update (noted on his homepage). Since he Paul2k Jun 04, 18:08

I don't see a place where the custom delist price can be added. That would be very useful. {nm} elchan Jun 04, 18:32

On Kaigee's page for the movie stock, right at the top, you can enter in your own values, overriding his... Jane_Citizen Jun 04, 21:38

Radar Dacies18 Jun 03, 12:09

sigh Dacies18 Jun 03, 12:11

you bought one share long {nm} forlorne Jun 03, 17:26

If he already maxed out on the stock, then clicking radar will sell/cover everythng except one share (to keep as a radar) {nm} Dave3626 Jun 04, 02:35

huh, I did not know that ... {nm} Jane_Citizen Jun 04, 04:20

That would sound like a bug to me. Should radar really be selling anything at all? This would be unexpected behaviour, IMO. {nm} elchan Jun 04, 20:24

About all those inactive players.... DTravel Jun 03, 11:34

Am only $80 million and a couple of thousand spots in front of you and agree this is frustrating but don't have an answer for you {nm} blaze223 Jun 03, 11:45

I don't know, I mean they earned those spots on the boards. Seems wrong to take them away. {nm} Dave3626 Jun 03, 14:30

there is no reason for this.... RazorHawk Jun 03, 14:30

+1 {nm} JohnTEQP Jun 03, 15:57

It's so cool when you go all historic with your responses... :) {nm} slappydavid Jun 03, 16:01

Thanks for the perspective i guess we all get bogged down in our own little empires and if we want to eliminate blaze223 Jun 04, 09:06

No impact on trading.....don {nm} alfpaulytd2012 Jun 03, 22:07

no impact on trading....don't care {nm} alfpaulytd2012 Jun 03, 22:07

would like to know total list of players {nm} laura1818 Jun 04, 10:31

they're not going to do that, it would be a disincentive for those players to return. Jane_Citizen Jun 04, 21:40

If you short a put at 5 and the movie goes 5 over call, how much do you make? 10? I'm scratching my head on this one. {nm} Ryan_Stewart Jun 03, 10:31

you have to look @ strike price. if strike price was 50 and you shorted put @5, you will make 5 since it will cash out @ 0. {nm} Oleg Max Jun 03, 11:09

Thanks. {nm} Ryan_Stewart Jun 03, 11:58

I thought MEW production dates sent value up enough to trade on. And yet yesterdays dates didn't seem to ddo much.. am I wrong? {nm} Dave3626 Jun 02, 07:23

I've noticed that in recent weeks. Maybe people are up through the roofs invested in big blockbusters, with no money to daytrade... slappydavid Jun 02, 07:50

I was hesitant about acting on them because most were closer to expensive than cheap and I thought that might turn some people off as it Dave3626 Jun 02, 08:48

It's what I've been doing, SlappyD. Not daytrading and sinking all my $ into blockbusters. HSX daytrading was killing my social life. {nm} Ryan_Stewart Jun 03, 10:29

Well you thought wrong, buster! ;) There are many factors that go into that sort of stuff, not just for MEW, but for any news posting. Paul2k Jun 02, 10:16

All good points to consider next time {nm} Dave3626 Jun 02, 12:37

I think I've discovered that the first image for Classic cash is never the winner. Any back-up or disagreements? {nm} Ryan_Stewart Jun 02, 06:43

I mean the first image you can see, not the first one on the left. {nm} Ryan_Stewart Jun 02, 06:44

My strategy is that as soon as I win, I move one to the right, so I can say with certainty that any one of the 7 could be the winner {nm} lapuckfan Jun 02, 07:38

I've read some people use that as a successful strategy... {nm} slappydavid Jun 02, 07:53

Ha ha, I just figured out the trick. Keep refreshing several times, and the movie that keeps showing up on every refresh is the one. {nm} elchan Jun 02, 13:08

I'll try that one. {nm} Ryan_Stewart Jun 03, 10:34

it didn't work {nm} Ryan_Stewart Jun 03, 10:39

Not true. I always pick the first loaded, and get it several times a week. {nm} thescreaming Jun 03, 12:05

Darn, I shouldn't have announced it. elchan Jun 03, 12:55

AFRAM Fund Update: Week 14 (5/24/12) - The HSX Dude AFRAM-The African American Fund Jun 01, 21:09

Top gaining funds for May 2012. Congrats to [AFRAM] at #1. islander Jun 01, 17:53

Well done RH! H$ for the people! {nm} slappydavid Jun 02, 07:54

Okay, now I KNOW the game is trying to drive me mad! :) DTravel Jun 01, 13:38

here's some Dramamine for your spinning head :) {nm} tealfan Jun 01, 15:07

You do realzie that a lot of people liquidated AVNGR in the amount of over 50M plus all of those AVNGR adjusting bonds. Where does that Buy StarBond Fund 18 Jun 01, 16:28

Apparently my "Silly" and "Ironic" tags weren't large enough. ;) {nm} DTravel Jun 02, 09:05

The $H Top Traders League has just been updated with everyone that made a place of the 86 members. dc82 Jun 01, 07:01

The league is public for the moment so you can join for the next competition which will begin, see you there! dc82 Jun 01, 07:02

The league now has 97 members and growing! New competition begins today!! Then it will be private league. dc82 Jun 01, 18:12

You're not going to publicly announce the winners?!? {nm} Ryan_Stewart Jun 02, 06:38