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There's no ROI if there's no future attachment.

Posted by: Antibody on Oct 19, 14:56 in response to StarBond Fund 15 BUY BONDS' post I disagree with that statement, and I think many other...

When you tuck it and forget it, it's easy to lose money when some major news hits.   Or if it hits the 3 years rule, you've earned nothing by holding it for three years when it could've been spend for something else.

AFERR is attached to HTYD2.

It does seem like you're trying to stir post-adjust movement when it's completely speculative. 

Post Adjust Bond Show For 10/19/10   RazorHawk on Oct 19, 11:32

thx again for crunching the numbers {nm}   tealfan on Oct 19, 11:48

What happens if there are no future attachments...IF and WHEN there is a future adjust????   mrbinns on Oct 19, 12:16

Thanks for this although a couple of changes...   theun4gven on Oct 19, 12:23

Sorry that post should have been below the OP {nm}   theun4gven on Oct 19, 12:23

It's not worth holding if they don't have a future adjust. {nm}   Antibody on Oct 19, 12:42

I disagree with that statement, and I think many other large portfolio players would agree.   StarBond Fund 15 BUY BONDS on Oct 19, 14:11

Congratulations and thanks to mrbinns btw for the star bond fund, cashing out v soon! {nm}   RedDex on Oct 19, 14:36

There's no ROI if there's no future attachment.    Antibody on Oct 19, 14:56

I disagree with you...   RazorHawk on Oct 19, 15:00

This piqued my interest, and I did a little test to see whether bonds are dropping a big movie from their TAG fall in value   RogerMore on Oct 20, 08:38

Your conclusion could be true for all StarBond w/o scheduled adjust. Traders could be just dumping those StarBonds and moving on. {nm}   Antibody on Oct 20, 09:58

If that were true though, you'd expect the Starbonds that have a scheduled adjust to fall in price by more than the ones without one.   RogerMore on Oct 20, 13:23

Probably, I thought you were gonna show that inside your message.   Antibody on Oct 20, 14:02

I showed it in my first message - bonds dropping a big movie that have an adjust are on average $20.86 below current TAG.   RogerMore on Oct 20, 14:17

Then isn't the conclusion is that price drop because there is a next adjust, rather than what's falling out of the adjust? {nm}   Antibody on Oct 20, 14:53

Bonds with a scheduled adjust have dropped $20.86 (on average) Bonds with no scheduled adjust but something wrapped/in production have   RogerMore on Oct 20, 15:26

RH does note Bonds with something wrapped/in production, so those should be grouped with Bonds with a scheduled adjust.   Antibody on Oct 20, 15:58

I see another issue of contention - "is RH correct when he says mrbinns is over-investing?". That's the one I'm looking at. {nm}   RogerMore on Oct 20, 16:22

If nothing else, wish me happy anniversary.....today is exactly 10 years hanging out at HSX   mrbinns on Oct 21, 11:38

Happy anniversary! {nm}   RogerMore on Oct 21, 19:31

interesting...   RazorHawk on Oct 20, 10:40

I'm not arguing with you either, just providing information on a topic that intrigued me. But...   RogerMore on Oct 20, 13:54

When I have extra cash, (normally have cash problems) I do invest in starbonds with no scheduled adjust when a big movie is to be taken out. {nm}   Guillo on Oct 20, 12:37

Part of the fun of post-adjust (before the existence of the Post Adjust Bond Show at least)...   secretstalker on Oct 19, 17:31

Sure, but mrbinns is saying to hold it indefinitely for an adjust that may never come. {nm}   Antibody on Oct 20, 11:09

If its by the message he replied to you....I did not read "hold it indefinately for all cases". He suggested that sometimes is worthy.   Guillo on Oct 20, 12:33

Oh, I wouldn't do that... even with the ridiculous amounts of fake cash I have lying around. {nm}   secretstalker on Oct 20, 18:02





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