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Posted by: RazorHawk on Oct 20, 10:40 in response to RogerMore's post This piqued my interest, and I did a little test to see...

I have no arguement with you RogerMoore, my postings were directed at mrbinns and his suggestion for players to overinvest in starbonds that have no upcoming attachements.

mrbinns post makes it sound like there is important information missing from the Post Adjust Bond Show.  he wants droi included, especially for starbonds who have no future attachments.  how do you do droi formula when you have no future adjust date and no future adjust amount?

mrbinns claims he is posting important information that was missing from my article.  I did not know that:

"JLCUR ...could go either way."

"KCHEN ...could go either way,"

"LBLAC ...could go either way"

"SSPCK ...could go either way."

was seriously important information that was missing.  I thought that is why we dont overinvest in stocks that are not predictable and profitable that can chew up our profits. I showed that mrbinns has a port almost double my size and holds 1,000 more stocks than me, but I still make more money than him.  I am aiming my website at beginning to medium players and am helping them learn how to make the most money possible as fast as they can.  mrbinns is concerned about droi but then suggests investments in starbonds who have no future attachments and "could go either way"

 Whenever there is an adjusting starbond that has no upcoming adjust date set, or no future attachments, but is dropping a big movie for their next adjust (or some other noteworty event), Post Adjust Bond Show does mention this so traders can learn and maybe profit from it.

10/19/10: JCREI;  OYUST; SNEIL;

10/12/10: JLONG; PPOST




mrbinns weekly "correction" of my Post Adjust Bond Show does not "correct" anything and only encourages players to overinvest in starbonds who have no future attachments and their profitbility cannot be determined at this time.  DMac has even hinted that mrbinns post could be manipulation "It does seem like you're trying to stir post-adjust movement when it's completely speculative."  I believe that the BONDS "sore thumbs" and "biggest loser" posts are similar in this nature.  Players listen to mrbinns because he is the manager of of the starbond fund and he needs to make sure that he is responsible when he posts, especially when making suggestions cause many players will blindly follow what he says.

"AFERR in college full time studying international relations and theater.  I guess she will resume her carreer ...Some day, maybe in a week, a month, a year, her StarBond gets attached to a project."  This seems like very poor advice to give to fellow traders. 

When a starbond is dropping a big movie (like SNEIL is dropping Jurassic Park 2) and has no upcoming adjust scheduled, the Post Adjust Bond Show does talk about it.  mrbinns post added no information, had nothing helpful to help players, and encouraged overinvesting which is not a wise course of action.

Thank you RogerMoore for your post.  That was some interesting stuff to look at.  When a bond is dropping a big movie for their next adjust, it makes their next adjust somewhat predictable and the Post Adjust Bond Show does discuss it so players can learn from it and/or profit from it.  The HSX Free Money Report picks up new adjusts and attachments that have been changed since the last time the bond was adjusted and on the Post Adjust Bond Show.

"All we can do at this point is look at the current filmography, and project based upon that information."  agreed mrbinns.  currently when I write "XXX has no upcoming projects listed" at that time the bond has no upcoming adjust and no profitability can be guessed or determined and as you posted, a majority of the bonds that I attached "no upcoming projects listed" "could go either way".  That makes them a poor investment and I do not understand why you are suggesting that players make poor investments. 

Post Adjust Bond Show For 10/19/10   RazorHawk on Oct 19, 11:32

thx again for crunching the numbers {nm}   tealfan on Oct 19, 11:48

What happens if there are no future attachments...IF and WHEN there is a future adjust????   mrbinns on Oct 19, 12:16

Thanks for this although a couple of changes...   theun4gven on Oct 19, 12:23

Sorry that post should have been below the OP {nm}   theun4gven on Oct 19, 12:23

It's not worth holding if they don't have a future adjust. {nm}   Antibody on Oct 19, 12:42

I disagree with that statement, and I think many other large portfolio players would agree.   StarBond Fund 15 BUY BONDS on Oct 19, 14:11

Congratulations and thanks to mrbinns btw for the star bond fund, cashing out v soon! {nm}   RedDex on Oct 19, 14:36

There's no ROI if there's no future attachment.    Antibody on Oct 19, 14:56

I disagree with you...   RazorHawk on Oct 19, 15:00

This piqued my interest, and I did a little test to see whether bonds are dropping a big movie from their TAG fall in value   RogerMore on Oct 20, 08:38

Your conclusion could be true for all StarBond w/o scheduled adjust. Traders could be just dumping those StarBonds and moving on. {nm}   Antibody on Oct 20, 09:58

If that were true though, you'd expect the Starbonds that have a scheduled adjust to fall in price by more than the ones without one.   RogerMore on Oct 20, 13:23

Probably, I thought you were gonna show that inside your message.   Antibody on Oct 20, 14:02

I showed it in my first message - bonds dropping a big movie that have an adjust are on average $20.86 below current TAG.   RogerMore on Oct 20, 14:17

Then isn't the conclusion is that price drop because there is a next adjust, rather than what's falling out of the adjust? {nm}   Antibody on Oct 20, 14:53

Bonds with a scheduled adjust have dropped $20.86 (on average) Bonds with no scheduled adjust but something wrapped/in production have   RogerMore on Oct 20, 15:26

RH does note Bonds with something wrapped/in production, so those should be grouped with Bonds with a scheduled adjust.   Antibody on Oct 20, 15:58

I see another issue of contention - "is RH correct when he says mrbinns is over-investing?". That's the one I'm looking at. {nm}   RogerMore on Oct 20, 16:22

If nothing else, wish me happy is exactly 10 years hanging out at HSX   mrbinns on Oct 21, 11:38

Happy anniversary! {nm}   RogerMore on Oct 21, 19:31

interesting...   RazorHawk on Oct 20, 10:40

I'm not arguing with you either, just providing information on a topic that intrigued me. But...   RogerMore on Oct 20, 13:54

When I have extra cash, (normally have cash problems) I do invest in starbonds with no scheduled adjust when a big movie is to be taken out. {nm}   Guillo on Oct 20, 12:37

Part of the fun of post-adjust (before the existence of the Post Adjust Bond Show at least)...   secretstalker on Oct 19, 17:31

Sure, but mrbinns is saying to hold it indefinitely for an adjust that may never come. {nm}   Antibody on Oct 20, 11:09

If its by the message he replied to you....I did not read "hold it indefinately for all cases". He suggested that sometimes is worthy.   Guillo on Oct 20, 12:33

Oh, I wouldn't do that... even with the ridiculous amounts of fake cash I have lying around. {nm}   secretstalker on Oct 20, 18:02

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